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Old 09-26-2011, 10:17 PM   #21
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Out of range or driven away from the green. There should be no chance of hitting someone, that's just inexcusable and I am glad you weren't hit.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:22 PM   #22
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Till the people in front are gone from site or out of range.
Agree 1000%. Any thing less is ignorance.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:27 PM   #23
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If someone might be within range, I will not hit, and I will make sure the rest of my group waits... But even then, some jackass may walk back in the way as someone is in the middle of their swing.
I played a round a few weeks ago and there was a group of guys behind us that would hit as soon as we got in the carts, which is kind of nuts, cause if I get hit by a ball from a moron that wants to play with me in the way, I will throw them in the water hazard, all 4 of em and their bags.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:35 PM   #24
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I understand there will be times when visibility will cause an errant shot or yes they come back for some reason like forgetting a club. But ya... better to be safe than sorry. And the group overall should determine if its ok to hit as sometimes one person may not see the action near the green.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:38 PM   #25
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I typically start my "routine" once the group is more than 30 yds off the green or 30 seconds after I can't see them (for those blind areas). Couple questions regarding this event. 1.) Was the area where you were hit into a blind shot for them? 2.) How far away from the green were you ? 3.) Is that your normal routine, to drive slowly and mark your score on your way to the next tee?
The reason I ask, (of course if you were in plain site, there is in no excuse) I've been in a situation where I have hit into someone because a.) I couldn't see them but waited my nominal period of time before starting my routine (about 45-60 seconds or so before the ball actually flies) but that group (which they didn't do it the prior holes) for some reason, discussed and marked there scores just off the green and out-of-site. I thinned a shot over the green and right near them and although I didn't hit anyone, I felt terrible. We both apologized to each other which was pretty funny.

Couple other hitting into situations I've been part of, both hitte' and hitter.
1.) When a playing partner (after he/she putts out) holds the flag stick up with the flag in the air while waiting to putt it back in the cup as the others in the group are putting. That was the only thing the group playing behind us could see and assumed (rightly so) that the flag was replaced and we were done.
2.) Another classic is with partially blind landing areas. I've hit into/over groups in this scenario a couple times. Here is the situation: You come to the tee and see a cart with one person sitting in it and the other finishing their shot. S/he hops in the cart and drives toward the cart path and disappears (do to the topology of the hole). I can't see them any longer, our foursome debates, (and everyone has done it I'm sure) "Are they gone, can I hit?", everyone agrees, so I go though my routine and tee off (45-60 seconds before the ball flies), only to see the cart appear again. I feel bad, but you only can manage to what you can't see. I am always telling my playing partners to keep a cart or stand (if walking which I normally do) so you can be seen from the tee box/prior hitting area. Not sure what the group was doing that they drove from the furthest point away from the cart path, hit their shot and drive towards the cart path, disappear for a minute and then come out in the same area again.
DC - we were in plain sight. About 10-15 yds perpendicular of the flag which was in a front location and driving off. The course does have blind spots but this hole didnt have visibility issues.

And yes, in general if you do get close with an errant shot you would think that people would go out of their way to apologize. All I got was a hand wave and sorry.... so more negative points.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:42 PM   #26
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I dont start my pre-swing routine until their carts start moving. So that gives them a good 20-30 seconds to get out of there. I take one last look at the hole before I pull the trigger, so if they're still in sight, i'll back off. I've been hit one too many times myself so I take extra precaution

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Old 09-26-2011, 10:43 PM   #27
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Longer than those dudes did.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:46 PM   #28
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It is possible to make a mistake if players ahead are inexperienced or erratic in the way they do things on the course. I have hit into people that I thought had cleared the green. Also just yesterday I see 2 carts with 4 guys headed for the green out of driver range off the first tee and I line up and hit and as I look to see where the ball is going I see a cart heading straight back towards me in the middle of the fairway. Luckily my ball went over there heads and I don't think they heard or saw it either one, they did not react at all, but that could have been a disaster. I don't know what they were doing, they didn't stop to hit a ball.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:55 PM   #29
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Depends. Generally, I follow what most others have posted - I wait until the cart is clear of the green (i.e. out of sight or generally a safe distance from the green). I will deviate from this is the group in front feels the need to clean every club and their balls and input their score and add up their score total all while sitting at the 18th green while I'm clearly in the fairway waiting to hit. If you're doing all of that - beware. I may not be aiming for you but I'm not a great shot so my ball may end up near you and/or your cart.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:57 PM   #30
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Till the people in front are gone from site or out of range.
I always wonder what the hurry is in those situations anyway. Plus, I don't want to see people when I hit the ball. It would be distracting imo.
My thoughts exactly Hawk.
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