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Most of the people I play with when it comes to par 4's and par 5's step up and hit and try to be as close to the hole as possible. However I have never really subscribed to this method and have always tried to play to a yardage number to be able to go with a certain club depending on the hole.
On most holes do you find yourself playing for a number or going with what will get you the closest? |
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If I can't reach it I like to play to a number. I love about 100 yards into a hole, nice easy swing and you can go pin hunting. If it is a long par 5 and I want to hit back to back irons (maybe the woods aren't my clubs that day) I will try to lay up a number that I have a good feeling with that iron that day.
Annika actually talks about this all the time as one of the biggest mistakes that amateurs make, to always try to go for the green. She used to love to lay up because she was so crazy precise with her irons. Of course, she could go for a pin a lot easier than the rest of us too. |
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It depends on how my game is that day. I am not comfortable usually with a wedge in, so I'll look to hit a short iron. If my short game is terrible, I'll take an iron off the tee to leave me a bit of distance going in. If i'm on with my wedges, I won't play to a number. Usually the way the holes are set up at my course though they make you play to a number without even realizing.
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Let me reword the question slightly. On par 5s that you cannot reach in two, do most play to be at a specific number or go all out to be close. I always try to be at 70 yards so I can hit a strong but smooth 60* for me. It is my best shot at birdie. i consider my close game to be my scoring game (1/2 wedges, pitches and chips) as my mid-long iron approches have always sucked and I had no choice but to practice the others... Now that I am hitting my 3W better off the deck..(lining up way on my front foot), the last 2 rounds I find myself contemplating whether I can make the green in two, or pulling out the 3H to leave myself a LW or GW wedge shot... bama |
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I hit it as hard as I can off the tee on a 5. I don't do the math. My second shot is almost always a lay up unless it's a short par 5 and I'm within 220 or so. (Rarely happens.) So I do a little math on the 2d shot and try to put myself at least in the 135-100 range. I've got a gap between 100 (soft PW) and 85 (full 56 degree) that always messes me up, so I try to pick one or the other if I can.
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It depends. I can't really lay up to an exact yardage usually because on the par 5's I play, the course don't mark much past 225 yards. I can sometimes walk it off, but usually it is a guess as to how far out I am. So when laying up I usually try to play to a yardage range that is outside of 80 yards so I can have a full swing.
If a par 5 doesn't have much trouble, and is more open in front of the green and I am in the 240-260 range I may take a 3wood/3 iron to get close to the front of the green for a pitch or a chip shot. With all that said I do find myself going for the green more than I probably should, I don't feel that 220 yards is out of my range with a long iron and in my head if I have to go wedge-wedge to get there I might as well go for it. Edit: As far as par 4's with my tee shots if the hole is under 360-370 yards I will pretty much always hit a 4 or 5 iron off the tee, if it is 300 or under(very few course has those types of holes), I will think about hitting driver. |
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If I don't have a chance to be on in 2 or if there is trouble in front of the green that makes it too risky I try to lay up to 100 yards. I like 100 to 75 yards so trying to get it to the 100 allows for some run out on the layup. Our course has two par 5s with water (or used to be water before this drought) in front of the greens so it is tough to go for it in 2 unless there is a godd wind behind you. Another has water that comes into play off the tee as it is 220 to the end of the fairway and about a 250 carry to clear the water. The other par 5 is the only one I always go for in 2 you can hit a 3 wood off the tee to lay up in front of a creek and you have 220 to 240 to the green with only one sand trap that comes into play that is in the right front part of the green.
Kind of long answer to say I try to lay up to 100 yards if I don't have a good chance of getting on or their is trouble that makes it too risky to go for it. |
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I can't help it. If I drive it in the fairway (or sometimes even in the reasonable rough) on a Par 5, the 3w is coming out and I'm fixing to make a huge mistake. Giving me a respectable drive on a Par 5 is like giving a 16 year old male the keys to a new high performance sportbike. No good will come of it, and it's gonna be ugly.
Luckily for me, my driving has been so awful that I find myself laying up a bit more. ![]() |
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