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Old 02-11-2010, 08:41 PM   #1
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I do move the ball forward or back in my stance depending on the club length.
But I also always line up with the center of the ball just at the toe of every club.
My theory on that is of centrifugal force stretching my reach with the clubhead a little so I tend to hit the sweet spot more consistently.
I think it also may help me to get to the proper inside out swing path.
That has worked for me the best.
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Old 02-11-2010, 08:51 PM   #2
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Interesting topic....

Never really thought about it before because I always "frame" the ball in the center of the clubface no matter which club I am using, from driver to wedge.
I try to be consistent in my shot setup with all clubs.
Gives me one less thing to think about if I just put the ball in the center of the clubface every time...
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:05 AM   #3
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I do move the ball forward or back in my stance depending on the club length.
But I also always line up with the center of the ball just at the toe of every club.
My theory on that is of centrifugal force stretching my reach with the clubhead a little so I tend to hit the sweet spot more consistently.
I think it also may help me to get to the proper inside out swing path.
That has worked for me the best.
This is exactly the same for me but I might put it just outside the club rather than on the toe. I agree when I am setting up my posture is a bit more relaxed than when I actually swing and I think my arms reach out a bit but as long as you have a routine which you can figure out - that seems to be the key!
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:52 AM   #4
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I address the driver on the toe pretty consistently.
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Old 03-11-2010, 04:51 PM   #5
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I move the ball from front to back in my stance regularly with my irons / wedges / fairway woods, but always center the clubface on the ball- about 1" behind the ball.

My driver is a whole 'nother beast. I've had difficulty hitting it consistently this year. Once I finally feel like I get it down, I start pulling balls to the left again. Right now my routine is to line up with the ball slightly inside the left heel, ball just outside the toe of the club.
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Old 03-11-2010, 05:03 PM   #6
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I address the driver on the toe pretty consistently.
I read an article about addressing the ball with the driver that actually helped me alot. It said that if you address the ball while the driver is grounded, you want to put the ball out on the toe. This is because the driver will actually will be raised above the ground when you hit the ball and will move the center of the face further outside. You can actually see it by grounding the club and then raising it up to the ball. The face moves slightly. Hope that makes sense. I've been hitting the center of the clubface a lot more since I made that adjustment.
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Old 03-11-2010, 05:24 PM   #7
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I like this thread! Good thoughts in here and I will for sure try the driver one.

I used to put the ball towards the toe. I shanked a lot in my younger days.
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Old 03-11-2010, 05:52 PM   #8
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I read an article about addressing the ball with the driver that actually helped me alot. It said that if you address the ball while the driver is grounded, you want to put the ball out on the toe. This is because the driver will actually will be raised above the ground when you hit the ball and will move the center of the face further outside. You can actually see it by grounding the club and then raising it up to the ball. The face moves slightly. Hope that makes sense. I've been hitting the center of the clubface a lot more since I made that adjustment.
Yep. Ive found that if I raise my driver off the ground before taking it back, it allows me to get better tempo, make a better transition, and hit the ball with a hard draw, which helps carry and rollout (for me)
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:45 PM   #9
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This is something that I am going to work hard at over the winter. I need to develop some consistency in my swing. The theory of arms stretching through the swing is why I started moving the ball away from me with longer clubs. I think my problem is, as I move the ball further away, I pick up more of a driver swing (longer & flatter) and reach even further. I hit a lot of fat shots, and I attribute this to moving the ball away and then having to bend slightly at the waste to reach out to it. I just got a hitting net for my yard so I am going to work hard at finding "the" proper iron setup. I'd like for it to be the same for everything.
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Old 10-31-2010, 02:53 AM   #10
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Default Framing the ball and club alignment at address
Recently, I think it was JB, made mention of how the Burner 2.0 frames the ball at address. It got me to thinking about my swing, more specifically my address.

In my current abomination of a setup, I setup to the ball a different distance for each club in the bag. I know, I know, we HAVE to setup further away for each longer club. What I mean is more like:

Wedges: Lob, Sand, Gap, Pitching I address centered on the club face
Starting with the 9 iron I move my address position, and therefore the face of the club, progressively further away. Meaning the ball, at address, moves further towards the toe with each successive club. My 6 iron is by far the WORST club in my bag for this. At address, I setup with the 6 outside the toe of the club. It seems crazy to me, but it is the only way I currently have any prayer of hitting the club. I am extremely inconsistent, and I think all of this movement is why.

So, the question is do you frame the ball on your irons (for standard shots) the same way for all of them?
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Old 10-31-2010, 03:00 AM   #11
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I do but there have been times in the past when I was fighting a balance problem and had to move the ball out toward the toe of the club. Haven't had to deal with that in a long time. Basically if you can spine angle and hands in the correct position during the swing you will have a better chance at keep your balance at impact.
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Old 10-31-2010, 03:24 AM   #12
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I also fought with this but have now come up with a routine
I take a good grip drop the club just outside of the ball and get my feet and shoulders square
I do slide the club out to match it up before I pull the trigger but it has worked well for me.
On chips and some 60 degree shots I may not do this but it works well for all my full swings
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Old 10-31-2010, 04:00 AM   #13
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When i am hitting the ball well I have the ball closer to the heel because on the downswing the shaft is bending down so the ball is closer to the toe. ie, in the middle of the clubface. I also like to play the ball back in my stance. I play my 4 iron middle stance.
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