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Old 10-24-2009, 04:51 AM   #1
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Default Is it time to give up on David Duval?
Year after year I've tried to get behind David Duval, but I think it's time to move on.
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Old 10-24-2009, 05:02 AM   #2
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It very well could be. But I think most have given up on him already. Then he has a great major like he did this year.
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Old 10-24-2009, 05:42 AM   #3
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Like you I have been pulling for him, but it certainly has been hard. It just seems he can't keep the momentum. I would like to see him make a come back.
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Old 10-24-2009, 05:50 AM   #4
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Honestly, I think Duval himself has given up. He's decided his family is most important right now, and the PGA Tour is just a paycheck. (Wish I was good enough to make that kinda bank just by going out and playing golf!) If he does well, fine, but if he doesn't, I don't think he stresses about it. I don't see him putting in the hours it takes to be on top again. For one, just look at his physical condition.
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Old 10-24-2009, 05:53 AM   #5
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Like you I have been pulling for him, but it certainly has been hard. It just seems he can't keep the momentum. I would like to see him make a come back.
I'm with you, I get to the point where I'm glad he's not entered into a field so that I don't have to be sad when I see his result. Then he goes and does what he did at the US Open, same deal as last year's British if you remember that. I don't know man, he's just really off and even though he claims he's close and all I just don't know. He'll probably compete, miss a bunch of cuts and when we least expect it he'll pop up and pull down a top 5 somewhere, who knows maybe he'll even win again sometime, it would be neat wouldn't it?
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Old 10-24-2009, 05:59 AM   #6
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. . . who knows maybe he'll even win again sometime, it would be neat wouldn't it?
This deserves a poll.
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Old 10-24-2009, 06:02 AM   #7
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He battled vertigo for a while, but that is not his issue for the most part. He moved to Denver, which is a beautiful place, but for a pro golfer does not lead to the best weather for golf. Many have said when D squared won his first major he really thought it would change him and he would feel different, but for him it didnt do anything.

I believe his contract with Nike is coming up in the next year and it will be interesting to see if anybody gives him a decent contract.
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Old 10-24-2009, 08:47 AM   #8
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I am not giving up on him. I started to watch golf when he was on top and I lived in Atlanta. He has battled a lot of demons and over come them, I think it is just a matter of time before he puts together a good full 4 days and wins another tournament. I think Nike will resign him also. He may not be a top 10 golfer anymore, but he is certainly good enough and carries enough fan support to have under your label and I think Nike realizes that. I mean come on, who would you rather watch, Cink, Immelman, Glover, Choi, Casey or Duval? Duval I think would get the most attention. As for his shape, he is actually probably a better golfer now in his current shape which is similar to when he was on top. It was when he lost a bunch of weight that his game disappeared on him. I followed him around on Thursday and Friday last week and I agree he is right there.
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Old 10-24-2009, 04:06 PM   #9
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I am not giving up on him. I started to watch golf when he was on top and I lived in Atlanta. He has battled a lot of demons and over come them, I think it is just a matter of time before he puts together a good full 4 days and wins another tournament. I think Nike will resign him also. He may not be a top 10 golfer anymore, but he is certainly good enough and carries enough fan support to have under your label and I think Nike realizes that. I mean come on, who would you rather watch, Cink, Immelman, Glover, Choi, Casey or Duval? Duval I think would get the most attention. As for his shape, he is actually probably a better golfer now in his current shape which is similar to when he was on top. It was when he lost a bunch of weight that his game disappeared on him. I followed him around on Thursday and Friday last week and I agree he is right there.
Do you really think Nike would resign him over guys that have won majors in the last 24 months and are on the upswing of their career? All of the guys you mention have one thing over Duval and why they get agreements. They are around on the weekend in large tournaments so fans can see the Nike bag.

Cink, Immelman, and Glover have also won majors the last 2 years. Casey was considered by many just this year to be in the top 2-3 in the world. Lets not forget that Cink and Immelman are to huge fan favorites because of the way they interact with the fans. Duval while a big name for a short period of time way back when has done NOTHING with the exception of 2 and a half days in a major this year. Outside of that, the guy has done absolutely nothing in close to a decade.
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Old 10-24-2009, 05:22 PM   #10
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Duval's made his money. He always said that he would leave the game early. I personally hope not. He's been one of my favorites for over 10 years.
You can give up on him if you wish, but I cannot (for some crazy reason).
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:31 PM   #11
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The way I look at this question is "no" Duval should not be given up on. There are quite few others on tour who have not, and probably will not obtain the success Duval has had. Some of those weekly, pay check to pay check players could disappear and never be missed. Duval will always be one of the pleasant memories on the PGA tour.
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:05 AM   #12
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Do you really think Nike would resign him over guys that have won majors in the last 24 months and are on the upswing of their career? All of the guys you mention have one thing over Duval and why they get agreements. They are around on the weekend in large tournaments so fans can see the Nike bag.

Cink, Immelman, and Glover have also won majors the last 2 years. Casey was considered by many just this year to be in the top 2-3 in the world. Lets not forget that Cink and Immelman are to huge fan favorites because of the way they interact with the fans. Duval while a big name for a short period of time way back when has done NOTHING with the exception of 2 and a half days in a major this year. Outside of that, the guy has done absolutely nothing in close to a decade.
I am not saying they will resign him instead of others, only that they will resign him. He may not get the same contract, but I don't think they will let him go. Even if he doesn't stay around for the weekends, his fan base alone is enough to keep him on. He is like a Greg Norman in aspects now, everyone wishes Norman could get that green jacket and would tune in every year if he were in the hunt again as they will when Duval gets back into the hunt. When Norman was going after it at the Open all you heard about golf that weekend was talk of Norman, the same when the Masters came around and again this year when the Open was going again, he brings a huge fan base with him and he hasn't done anything this decade. If Duval goes deep in a major next year or wins a tournament next year, it would be huge for Duval and of course whatever sponsor is on his shirt. Duval is like Daly now in that I think everyone wants to see him win and be back on top, and for Daly to keep going in the direction that he is going now. I could be wrong, but only time will tell and if Nike doesn't resign him or another company doesn't sign him with a similar contract I would be disappointed and shocked.
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Old 10-25-2009, 03:26 PM   #13
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Duval is like Daly now in that I think everyone wants to see him win and be back on top, and for Daly to keep going in the direction that he is going now. I could be wrong, but only time will tell and if Nike doesn't resign him or another company doesn't sign him with a similar contract I would be disappointed and shocked.
I think your quote says it all. Not everybody wants to see Duval win. And certainly MOST do not want to see Daly win. He has his fans and they are loud and he certainly moves the needle, but thinking that even MOST want to see Daly win is off.

Duval getting a similar contract to what he has now is absurd. He signed a 10 year deal with Nike worth millions. No company would go anywhere near him for that kind of duration or monies.

And comparing him to Norman is not fair to the Shark. Duval had a handful of really good years and then quit on the game and has never been heard from again other than 2.5 days in the major this year.

Norman was the best in the world for years and never fell off the planet.
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Old 10-25-2009, 04:23 PM   #14
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I guess the real question is whether or not Duval has given up on himself. I doesnt matter in the end what they think or do if he doesnt have the drive. Its sad, I always liked him too. Im curious to see what happens contract and equipment wise. When this happens does a player that doesnt have deals have to pay his own way to play? Assumming he can enter a tournament.
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Old 10-25-2009, 04:26 PM   #15
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I still believe some company would give him something because people still watch him. I do not believe that he will ever get a big deal or even a moderate deal again. Until he can prove that he can play on the weekends when most fans see the bag, a company will not give him hundreds of thousands of dollars to carry it.
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Old 10-25-2009, 05:04 PM   #16
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It was time to give up on Duval years ago. He lost his swing when he lost weight and got into shape.
He has decided that his family is more important to him that golf. Thats great and I dont think anyone can blame him for making that decision, but he isnt going to get back to being the player he once was unless he devotes himself 100% to golf.
I still think that some company will pick up Duval if/when Nike drops him but it definetly wont be for the money Nike paid him.
I also think you will continue to see Duval on tour and he very well may get a some top 10 finishes at majors, but I dont see him winning all the time and being the dominant player he was when he was the #1 golfer in the world.
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:41 PM   #17
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Hey look, it's the yearly revolving Duval thread
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Old 10-31-2009, 02:45 AM   #18
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I would be hard pressed if I was Nike to re-sign him. He is hardly on TV, he normally misses the cut, and had only two good rounds this year then vanished into the field. Everytime some commentator talks about him, it's always, "it would be sure nice to see him on top again." That has to hurt hearing that week after week.
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:06 AM   #19
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I find myself rooting for DD - however I don't believe he has the talent to put 4 rounds together for a tour victory.
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:59 AM   #20
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I find myself rooting for DD - however I don't believe he has the talent to put 4 rounds together for a tour victory.
Right now he is just trying to stay inside the top 125 so he doesn't need to go to Q-school next year. I think a victory is going to take something special.
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