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Old 02-25-2012, 12:10 PM   #21
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....Please see the bottom line of my post. I have pasted the link to original article from where I posted it here.
Dear aramakrishnan1, yes, I did notice you had given a link to the site. But that is not enough. I wonder how many would have visited the site if you had not also cut and pasted the entire article, if even one person did not go, that is one less traffic count for that site.

I think the ethical thing to do (sorry for bringing ethics into this, but it is relevant) is to provide the link, and perhaps a small excerpt so that people who find the excerpt interesting can go to the site for more. IMO, giving a link at the end does not mitigate the error of cutting and pasting the entire article.

May be this is an issue that needs a ruling from the moderators, that will be beneficial to all of us.

Cheers!
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:08 PM   #22
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Dear aramakrishnan1, yes, I did notice you had given a link to the site. But that is not enough. I wonder how many would have visited the site if you had not also cut and pasted the entire article, if even one person did not go, that is one less traffic count for that site.

I think the ethical thing to do (sorry for bringing ethics into this, but it is relevant) is to provide the link, and perhaps a small excerpt so that people who find the excerpt interesting can go to the site for more. IMO, giving a link at the end does not mitigate the error of cutting and pasting the entire article.

May be this is an issue that needs a ruling from the moderators, that will be beneficial to all of us.

Cheers!
Dear Naraji,
I am registered as member of the Forum for Hindu Awakening and I am given the full freedom to propagate the message to others based on my judgement. Whether to copy & paste the entire article or present an extract and provide link to the original article shall be best judged by the member. If the extract provided, which is opinion of the member on the article here fails to appeal to the other readers, then the link would not be used by the reader.
There may be many who visit this forum and read the posts, but have restrictions within their networks to access the linked articles. For those, the article directly presented here would be very useful.
For example, in countries like UAE, access to many Hindu sites are restricted and those members who have restricted access would not be able to read the original article itself.
I don't think you are recommending our Moderators to become Kapil Sibal and curb social media activities affecting their politics.
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:07 PM   #23
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Dear aramakrishnan1, I must congratulate you for being so forthright in presenting a somewhat accurate picture of the Hindu system of varna classification. Most people will try to equivocate due to the controvertial nature of the claims. Your presentaion is more or less in conformity with the views published as authentic in kamakoti.org, the online presence of Kanchi Shankara Matam, and from personal experience I know it is more or less consistent with the views of Sri Vaishnavas, both Thenkalai and Vadakali.

Let me point out some of the deviations from the main stream view.

Please correct me if I am wrong by providing proper citation, I don't think there is any textual support for this % allocation.

BTW, an interesting corollary of this % allocation and the claim highlighted above is, Shudras must be the cleanliest of them all as they spend 40% of the time in such activities, and the Brahmins and Kshatriyas must be the dirtiest as the claim is they spend only 10% of their time doing this.


This claim is neither here nor there. It is not consistent with the mainstream thinking, which asserts each Brahmin can trace his/her lineage all the way back to a sage of the Vedic times. It is inconsistent with reality as we are all 100% mixed, we all are mongrels.


Once again, correct me if I am wrong by providing proper citations, but I don't think this kind of varna classification for animals has any textual support or support in practice.

This claim has a funny, or absurd, side, IMO -- while the humans are classified into 4 varnas, when it comes to animals, whole species are classified into one of the four varnas!! If all cows and snakes are Brahmins, who among their ranks is going to do all the physical labor? Also, what about the innumerable sub species, no difference there?

Needless to stay, I reject all this reactionary gobbledygook, these are so patently contrary to basic human dignity, and basic rights of all human-beings for no other reason than being a human.

Cheers!
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The percentages mentioned in the original article were based on research by this organisation.
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Old 02-27-2012, 04:56 AM   #24
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Re" # 12: Biswasji: Then all our rishis were telling us about Brahman without being or knowing what is Brahman. I think it is not like that because for a reason you come into the world and perform the mission of that life including causing to bring in one or more sins to help them wash off those sins in penance and by undergoing punishment. Having fulfilled that mission, you should seek to become Brahman.
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