[ethigSmimbine]

Exxon is in competition with Chinese and Indian bids for Afghan oil and gas
by John Glaser, July 02, 2012
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ExxonMobil has filed an application with the Afghan government to bid on a group of Afghanistan oilfields containing an estimated 1 billion barrels of oil and gas.

The official “expression of interest, said Alan Jeffers, a spokesman for Exxon, ”is part of our ongoing evaluation of oil and gas resources around the world.” Bids are due in late October and winning bidders will be announced in late 2012.

Exxon’s decision is unexpected, since many corporations have been reluctant to officially bid on Afghanistan’s natural resources because it has been perceived as highly speculative. Issues of security and lack of infrastructure compound corporate skepticism.

One possible explanation is that there are potential geo-political matters at play. China’s state-owned China National Petroleum Corp. (CNPC) and India’s ONGC have also filed to bid for the oilfields. Given Washington’s belligerence toward a rising China of late, Afghanistan could very well become a point of geo-political competition between world powers.

Afghanistan already signed a deal late last year with CNPC for the development of oilfields in the north, a project expected to earn billions of dollars over two decades.

This isn’t the first sign of foreign power exploitation of Afghanistan’s natural resources. In November of last year, “the Pentagon’s Task Force for Business and Stability Operations (TFBSO), in partnership with the U.S. Geological Survey, announced” it would begin training Afghan geoscientists to collect, process, and exploit valuable “mineral resources” and “rare earth elements” in Afghanistan.

Earlier Pentagon estimates “identified at least $1 trillion in mineral resources, fossil fuels, and rare earth elements within Afghanistan.”

http://news.antiwar.com/2012/07/02/e...han-oilfields/

[tsovimnpb]

Not surprising...

[251EPyso]

Exxon is in competition with Chinese and Indian bids for Afghan oil and gas
by John Glaser, July 02, 2012
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ExxonMobil has filed an application with the Afghan government to bid on a group of Afghanistan oilfields containing an estimated 1 billion barrels of oil and gas.

The official “expression of interest, said Alan Jeffers, a spokesman for Exxon, ”is part of our ongoing evaluation of oil and gas resources around the world.” Bids are due in late October and winning bidders will be announced in late 2012.

Exxon’s decision is unexpected, since many corporations have been reluctant to officially bid on Afghanistan’s natural resources because it has been perceived as highly speculative. Issues of security and lack of infrastructure compound corporate skepticism.

One possible explanation is that there are potential geo-political matters at play. China’s state-owned China National Petroleum Corp. (CNPC) and India’s ONGC have also filed to bid for the oilfields. Given Washington’s belligerence toward a rising China of late, Afghanistan could very well become a point of geo-political competition between world powers.

Afghanistan already signed a deal late last year with CNPC for the development of oilfields in the north, a project expected to earn billions of dollars over two decades.

This isn’t the first sign of foreign power exploitation of Afghanistan’s natural resources. In November of last year, “the Pentagon’s Task Force for Business and Stability Operations (TFBSO), in partnership with the U.S. Geological Survey, announced” it would begin training Afghan geoscientists to collect, process, and exploit valuable “mineral resources” and “rare earth elements” in Afghanistan.

Earlier Pentagon estimates “identified at least $1 trillion in mineral resources, fossil fuels, and rare earth elements within Afghanistan.”

http://news.antiwar.com/2012/07/02/e...han-oilfields/

Oh its a nice business story , now, when your oil buddies are concerned. Its a cosy little "BID" for Afghan oil. Nice round table gentlemenly talks !! A good ol business deal !

The Aghans are now upstanding corporate TRADING partners. HA ha !!

Wheres all the "Filthy US dogs" rhetoric like the "Filthy Russian dogs" of yesterday ??

No mention of the Afghan government being ex Haliburton Oilman Karzai, (D**K Cheneys Haliburton) !!

Cat got your tongue?? Quel surprise !!

Typical pro zionist tripe !! Why dont you apply for the Wash Post or the Sun ? They would have you in a flash, you got their agenda down to a T !!

What a disgrace to the human race !

[soprofaxel]

Oh its a nice business story , now, when your oil buddies are concerned. Its a BID for Afghan oil. Nice round table gentlemenly talks !! A good ol business deal !

The Aghans are now upstanding corporate TRADING partners. HA ha !!

Wheres all the "Filthy US dogs" rhetoric like the "Filthy Russian dogs" of yesterday ??

Cat got your tongue?? Quel surprise !!

Please calm down your language my brother. I do not think that AbuFatimah posted this in any way, shape or form to suggest that the Afghans were now upstanding trading partners. If I am correct it was posted to highlight that another Muslim country's mineral welath was being exploited by the multi-nationalists.

Do not let your annoyance of Abu Fatimah's Saudi favour, sufi repetition and Salafism cloak every single one of his comments. I have mentioned this before I do not agree with AbuFatimah on his Saudi stance however if I let this cloud every statement of his I will be doing an injustice. It also is not good for my blood pressure!!

We will all have differences however speaking this way to each other is in no way healthy or conducive. Leave this language for the people who really deserve it.

[TritteTouff]

Please calm down your language my brother. I do not think that AbuFatimah posted this in any way, shape or form to suggest that the Afghans were now upstanding trading partners. If I am correct it was posted to highlight that another Muslim country's mineral welath was being exploited by the multi-nationalists.

Do not let your annoyance of Abu Fatimah's Saudi favour, sufi repetition and Salafism cloak every single one of his comments. I have mentioned this before I do not agree with AbuFatimah on his Saudi stance however if I let this cloud every statement of his I will be doing an injustice. It also is not good for my blood pressure!!

We will all have differences however speaking this way to each other is in no way healthy or conducive. Leave this language for the people who really deserve it.

With respect, the bad language quotes are HIS, not mine !!

Dont let YOUR BIAS interfere with the TRUTH !!!

I have a right to speak MUCH WORSE thatn this way to tripe, lies and manipulation of facts !!

Its not CLOAKING any comments ? Im answering DIRECTLY to his quotes, in context with his rhetoric !

If I am correct it was posted to highlight that another Muslim country's mineral welath was being exploited by the multi-nationalists. No you are not CORRECT. You are naive.

We will all have differences however speaking this way to each other is in no way healthy or conducive. Leave this language for the people who really deserve it. I have no interest in him. Its his words and his pandering to the worst narratives against the safety of the muslims that im here for.

[gimffnfabaykal]

With respect, the bad language quotes are HIS, not mine !!

Dont let YOUR BIAS interfere with the TRUTH !!!

I have a right to speak MUCH WORSE thatn this way to tripe, lies and manipulation of facts !!

Its not CLOAKING any comments ? Im answering DIRECTLY to his quotes, in context with his rhetoric !

My brother in this thread please inform me as to where AbuFatimah has used bad language in this thread. I am not saying that he is innocent I am only saying that in this thread which is neutral please do not turn it into another mud slinging match. We have had too many of these recently on SunniForum.

Mine is only a request.

Anyway khair.

[U5pz6B71]

My brother in this thread please inform me as to where AbuFatimah has used bad language in this thread. I am not saying that he is innocent I am only saying that in this thread which is neutral please do not turn it into another mud slinging match. We have had too many of these recently on SunniForum.

Mine is only a request.

Anyway khair.

YOU SAID:

Please calm down your language my brother .

I never said anything about the bad language, stop confusing the issue more and missing the entire point !

WHERE DID I USE BAD LANGUAGE ??? Its not a neutral thread, you are completly naive on this issue !

My quote was HIS BAD LANGUAGE FROM ANOTHER POST hence the " " Quotes around the phrase !

[gluckmeea]

everyone is going through a development process

each day we can make new intentions and improve our language and behaviour

if our behaviour and manners repels others then they go elsewhere
when they go elsewhere we make effort to bring them

better not to drive them away i n the first place

usools of dawah
jo kareeb hai isko kareeb rakhne ki mehnat karo,aur kareeb karo

big disease..complacency

[barsikjal]

What a disgrace to the human race !

Need I say more???

My brother you are saying I am being naive. Maybe I am however to keep the peace between Muslim brethren that is a small price to pay.

My request to you is not to let this thread turn into a mudslinging match. I understand that you have a valid claim against Abu Fatimah with regards to his mushrik comment and you have clearly stated this so. Just please do not let that issue intrude into this thread.

This will be the last post on this issue. I have made myself quite clear.

[jamemeveRhype]

Ill repeat it

WHAT A DISGRACE TO THE HUMAN RACE !

Im not shy to tell the truth !

Maybe I am however to keep the peace between Muslim brethren that is a small price to pay The price to keep peace between two strangers is NOT WORTH THE PRICE OF SPREADING WORLDWIDE FITNAH ! GET Real !!

Look, 1 post, 2 post, 3 posts ok, you can give a guy the benefit of the doubt

But when you get 20 posts in a row, that could just as easily have been delivered by the zionist lobby of the US, then thats spreading FITNAH !!

[Xewksghy]

Brother I was posting this article in order to highlight america's real intention in invading afghanistan

and no I didnt say all of malians are graveworshippers, the people in mali who worship graves are grave worshippers and those who don't, arent. If your friend is a grave worshipper then I'm definitely no afraid to see him on yawmil quiyama and if he isnt a grave worshipper then I wasnt referring to him.

As for being a disgrace to the human, jazak allahu khair bro. Allahi barik feek. I didnt come to the muslim community to be insulted, so i have nothing else to discuss with you. I came to teh muslim community to be around decent brothers inshAllah who will help me get closer to Allah SWT

[Maydayvar]

Brother AbuFatimah, pay no heed to TheEqualizer and let cooler heads prevail. Let ranters rant.

I ask the mods to remove the pointless posts.

[Kokomoxcvcv]

Brother AbuFatimah, pay no heed to TheEqualizer and let cooler heads prevail. Let ranters rant.

I ask the mods to remove the pointless posts.

I ask the MODS to remove the useless pro zionist supporters.

[ThzinChang]

Mobil Exxon is just a business. It happens to be one of the most efficient, most effectively run businesses in the world. We can learn from its administrative skills.

What's evil is that Taghut is freely granted power over Muslim affairs. Natural energy resources belong to the public, the Muslim Ummah. They should be administered and governed and managed for the Muslim Ummah.

Instead, Muslims greedily embrace nationalism- Afghani nationalism in this case. They hungrily desire the benefits of Afghani nationalism: exclusive access to oil, gas & mineral resources. And they are willing to conspire with Mobil Exxon to get at them. And they greedily, hungrily, like starving dogs whining and nipping at each other, they implement free market liberalized capitalism which grants greater powers to private companies and deprioritize the rights of Muslim people.

America is not only seeking oil. America is seeking a multitude of objectives, including sustained regional supremacy in Central Asia. After investing 100s of billions in the Karzai regime and rebuuilding of Afghanistan, they are seeking a payout.

No way that America is going to CHOOSE to abandon Afghanistan. As long there are in powere those who welcome it, it will remain.

Rather, the Karzai and AFghan nationalist capitulation to America's regional interests will certainly overtake Karzai and whomever has submitted to it. Like so many before. It is like blindly dancing on the edge of a cliff to a seductive tune, thinking your master will enjoy your dance and keep you from falling. No. Your master is the Taghut and has pushed off so many before you when he tires, or the tune ends.

[maxfieldj1]

video of dozens of howling dogs waiting to eat while obeying a human master=

Afghans obeying the Taghut waiting for their share- and the shares of orphans and widows and the poor and the weak and any who dare resist them- of Allah's bounty.

Can you spot Karzai?

[Sdinozes]

Mobil Exxon is just a business. It happens to be one of the most efficient, most effectively run businesses in the world. We can learn from its administrative skills.

What's evil is that Taghut is freely granted power over Muslim affairs. Natural energy resources belong to the public, the Muslim Ummah. They should be administered and governed and managed for the Muslim Ummah.

Instead, Muslims greedily embrace nationalism- Afghani nationalism in this case. They hungrily desire the benefits of Afghani nationalism: exclusive access to oil, gas & mineral resources. And they are willing to conspire with Mobil Exxon to get at them. And they greedily, hungrily, like starving dogs whining and nipping at each other, they implement free market liberalized capitalism which grants greater powers to private companies and deprioritize the rights of Muslim people.

America is not only seeking oil. America is seeking a multitude of objectives, including sustained regional supremacy in Central Asia. After investing 100s of billions in the Karzai regime and rebuuilding of Afghanistan, they are seeking a payout.

No way that America is going to CHOOSE to abandon Afghanistan. As long there are in powere those who welcome it, it will remain.

Rather, the Karzai and AFghan nationalist capitulation to America's regional interests will certainly overtake Karzai and whomever has submitted to it. Like so many before. It is like blindly dancing on the edge of a cliff to a seductive tune, thinking your master will enjoy your dance and keep you from falling. No. Your master is the Taghut and has pushed off so many before you when he tires, or the tune ends.

Two very good points:

1 From a purely functionality and system based perspective, these companies and the west in general has a lot of good traits and ideas, and definitely we can take them inshAllah although there is some terribly inefficient things too taht we should scrap in favour of otehr systems and policies and of course, anywhere taht islam is concerned we shoudl try our best to bring the systems in line with islam as much as is humanly possible inshAllah

2 From a moral perspective, these companies do a lot of wrong things, its very clear taht americans have their eye on the oil and precious metals worths trillions in afghanistan, and this rightfully belongs to the ummah, not some corrupt government who will leave his nation totally underdeveloped, contribute nothing to islam, try to kufrise his people, and have no intention to serve Islam or work with other muslim nations. But I dont believe this is americas prime objective in afghanistan, the key issue was the prevention of the establishment of a khilafaah in central asia. Its also worth noting that they didnt want the removal of a major corruption to prevail:

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/13/wo...um-market.html

This article is cached from 2001. Makes me laugh when one of the objectives is so called opium as now opium is booming again thanks to NATO

I do think the Taliban need to modernise aswell though in some ways so the suggested solution of a unity government will be good inshAllah but the mineral wealth is the ummahs, not america or chinas, and they need to ensure that all the wealth fall into the correct hands inshAllah and develops the nation into a powerful nation that cooperates with otehr muslim lands. And if they have elections, brotehrs shoudl support an islamic party, maybe jamaat e islami or something?

[phpfoxmods]

basically Khuffars have Muslims on the lock. first control their minds then lands.

This proves that reading Qur'an on daily basis and not following its teachings equals to nothing!

[shihoodiacarf]

Its not just Exxon who are after Afghanistans riches:

http://management.fortune.cnn.com/20...t-afghan-gold/

Allahu A'lam