[Fainnamoony]

Study can be done everywhere, but foreign countries certificate(US,Europe) got more values in subcontinent.

Isn't your Rizq already written though? What does it matter where your degree is from. Rizq includes everything: money, food, cars etc.

[spaxiaroorbes]

Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

I am a reconvert living in Europe; the so called "paradise" with freedom of religion and freedom of whatever. As somebody having to live at a place where many Muslims dream of to live here I tell you, Muslims especially reconverts are treated like a piece of **** here. There's no such thing as freedom of religion, stop dreaming and get the facts straight. Stay in your Muslim countries with your families. If you come here you will be exposing your iman to great risk.

The Muslims in North-Africa, India etc., are dreaming and fantasizing about coming here. Muslim youth are so fanatic about going to Europe they're ready to take the risk to travel to it using tiny boats and many drowning on the sea. And this is not only about North-Africans; I wrote a scientific report about this topic and I know that there are even Pakistanis doing all the way to the Mediterranean Sea and then travel using boat to Europe. If we had as much struggle from Muslims for the Islamic cause as they struggle to earn money in Europe and United States of fitna then this world would be a great place for sure.

I tell you, stay at home with your families. Go study in madrasah in your home Muslim countries, change the government's immigration policy so that we the reconverts can come to your country.

I'll get bogged down for this post for sure...

Al-Faruqi the rant boy.

[johnlohanmclee]

Salam alaykum,

Unless I am wrong, finance/banking is a part of MBA degree.

I would request my brothers to watch two documentaries to understand how money is made out of thin air. As Muslims, it is imperative for us to learn how riba (usury) and gambling work.

Money as debt (47 min)
Code:

Code

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2550156453790090544&ei=0YcuS-nKIo7w2gKSu-CbDA&q=money+as+debt

Money master (3hrs 35min)
Code:

Code

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936&ei=focuS5K-DZ2G2wLKzZm-BQ&q=moneymaster

[AmericaAirline 111]

Isn't your Rizq already written though? What does it matter where your degree is from. Rizq includes everything: money, food, cars etc.

Akhi according to your logic then we dont even need any degree at all, Rizq is written! Struggle should be there, may be the asking process which brother did here was written in his rizq, and he may go there cause of written in his fate!

[BrainTop]

Salam alaykum,

Unless I am wrong, finance/banking is a part of MBA degree.

I would request my brothers to watch two documentaries to understand how money is made out of thin air. As Muslims, it is imperative for us to learn how riba (usury) and gambling work.

Money as debt (47 min)
Code:

Code

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2550156453790090544&ei=0YcuS-nKIo7w2gKSu-CbDA&q=money+as+debt

Money master (3hrs 35min)
Code:

Code

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936&ei=focuS5K-DZ2G2wLKzZm-BQ&q=moneymaster

Finance doesnt mean only banking. No body teaches you how to increase interests profits and so on in general.

And also there is a difference between learning and applying it.

MBA also has marketting/Human resource/IT/Operations/Retail management and so on, the specializations in MBA are in 2 digit numbers

Regards
MBA Student

[gluckmeea]

After lot discussions, mashwara with my elders and Istikhara,finally I got admission in University of Wollongong Dubai.

I will be resigning from my current job and starting for Dubai next Month Inshallah.

Request you all to remember my in your Du'as

[Vegeinvalge]

Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

I am a reconvert living in Europe; the so called "paradise" with freedom of religion and freedom of whatever. As somebody having to live at a place where many Muslims dream of to live here I tell you, Muslims especially reconverts are treated like a piece of **** here. There's no such thing as freedom of religion, stop dreaming and get the facts straight. Stay in your Muslim countries with your families. If you come here you will be exposing your iman to great risk.

The Muslims in North-Africa, India etc., are dreaming and fantasizing about coming here. Muslim youth are so fanatic about going to Europe they're ready to take the risk to travel to it using tiny boats and many drowning on the sea. And this is not only about North-Africans; I wrote a scientific report about this topic and I know that there are even Pakistanis doing all the way to the Mediterranean Sea and then travel using boat to Europe. If we had as much struggle from Muslims for the Islamic cause as they struggle to earn money in Europe and United States of fitna then this world would be a great place for sure.

I tell you, stay at home with your families. Go study in madrasah in your home Muslim countries, change the government's immigration policy so that we the reconverts can come to your country.

I'll get bogged down for this post for sure...

Al-Faruqi the rant boy.

The issue of living in non-Muslim lands is well-discussed in the following fatwa.


http://www.islam.tc/cgi-bin/askimam/...=6964&act=view

Kindly refer below a reply to similar query by Mufti Taqi Usmani.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.

Q: What is the ruling regarding adoption of the nationality of a non-Muslim country?
Many people who adopt the nationalities of these countries, or wish to do so, insist that they do so only because they are persecuted in their own countries, through imprisonment, threats and intimidation or confiscation of their property etc. Others see no difference between their own countries, which though Muslim, have no Shari?ah, and those of the West. They contend that whilst both are equal in having no Islamic laws, their personal rights, property and honour are safer in their adopted country, and they will not be imprisoned or persecuted without reason.

A. The issue of emigration to a non-Muslim country and permanent settlement there, is one on which the ruling would differ according to the situation, and the reasons for the emigration.

a) If a Muslim is forced by his circumstances to emigrate, e.g. he is persecuted in his country or imprisoned, or his property is confiscated etc., without his having committed any crime, and he sees no way out for himself other than to emigrate to a foreign country, then he would be permitted to do so in such a case without any Karahat (abho- rrence) whatsoever, as long as he resolves to protect his faith, and keep himself away from the widespread evil found there.

b) Similarly, if a Muslim is forced to emigrate due to his financial situation, i.e. he cannot find the necessary means of subsistence despite extensive effort and he sees no alternative other than emigration to a non-Muslim country, then he is permitted to emigrate subject to the above conditions. Earning a livelihood through permissible means is also a duty for a Muslim, after his other Fardh duties, and the Shari?ah has not specified a certain place for it. Allah Ta'ala says:

"He is the one who has made the earth manageable for you. So traverse ye through its tracts, and enjoy of the sustenance which He furnishes; And unto Him is the resurrection." (Surah Al-Mulk, v. 15)

c) If a Muslim adopts the nationality of a Non-Muslim country for the purpose of calling its people towards Islam, or to convey Islamic laws to the Muslims residing there, and to encourage them to stay firm on their faith, then this is not only permissible, but also a source of reward. Many of the Sahabah and Tabi'een settled in distant Kuffar lands for this very purpose, and this action of theirs is counted amongst their virtues and points of merit.

d). If a person has enough means of livelihood available to him in his native country for him to be able to live according to the (average) standard of his people, but he emigrates in order to raise his standard of living and live a life of luxury and comfort, then emigration for such a purpose has at least some degree of Karahat in it, because such a person is throwing himself into a storm of evil, and endangering his faith and moral character without there being any necessity for it. Experience shows that the people who settle in non-Muslim countries for luxury and comfort find their religious restraint diminishing in the face of the many temptations of evil.

Therefore, it is reported in the ahadith that one should not live with disbelievers unnecessarily.
Abu Dawood narrates from Samrah bin Jundub that the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho Alaihi Wassallam)said: "He who mingles with a disbeliever and dwells with him is like him." Abu Dawood and Tirmidhi also report that the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho Alaihi Wassallam)said: "I am free (i.e. I disavow myself) from every Muslim who lives with disbelievers." The Sahabah asked "Why, O Messenger of Allah?" He replied "The fires of the two cannot co-exist." Khattabi says in his commentary on this hadith that it has several meanings. One is that the two (a Muslim and a Kafir) are not equal in Hukm (ruling) they both have different rules.

Some scholars take this view. Others explain the meaning as being that Allah has differentiated between the lands of Islam and Kufr and consequently it is not allowed for a Muslim to live amongst disbelievers in their lands, because when the Kuffar light their fires he will be seen as one of them. The scholars also derive from this the ruling that one should not stay in the lands of the Kuffar when visiting for trade etc. (Khattabi, Ma'alim-As-Sunan, K. Jihad, 473 : iii).
Abu Dawood relates from Makhool in his 'Maraseel' that the Prophet ? said: "Do not leave your children amongst enemies (i.e. Kuffar). (Tahzeeb As-Sunan, Ibnul-Qayyim, 437 : iii)
For this reason, some scholars say that living in Kafir countries, and increasing their numbers solely for material wealth, is an action which damages ones 'Adala (integrity). (Takmila Raddul-Mukhtar, p. 101, v. I).

Finally, if a person adopts a non-Muslim nationality solely for the purpose of increasing his standing in society, and as a matter of pride, or in preference to a Muslim nationality, or in imitation of the Kuffar, then all such actions are Haram without exception, and there is no need to cite evidence for this.

[DoctorGordanBens]

What about if you are born to immigrant parents in dar-ul-kuffar? Do you have to leave or do you have expiation because you were born there?

[DailyRingtone]

What about if you are born to immigrant parents in dar-ul-kuffar? Do you have to leave or do you have expiation because you were born there?

What should the daughter of a prostitute do ? Do the same age-old business ? Or, should she try to get out of that hell ?

[art_fan_12]

how far have you gone with your MBA?

I suggest brothers and sisters do MBA in OIL and GAS

this is a quite lucrative and the demand is over the roof