[SHUSIATULSE]

For ramadan, my family and I pray Fajr and Maghrib in jamaat at home, with my father leading. The problem is, my dad shaves, which makes my salah makrooh. Not only that, his tajweed is awful because he recites the paki way (i.e 'dha' and 'daad' become 'za', 'tha' becomes 'saa' etc...). This makes me very uneasy praying behind him because I know im losing out on the much of the reward. But at the same time, I dont want to offend him by refusing to pray behind him, so I just went a long with this for a few days.

But now I decided I would just repeat the prayer. e.g. I'll pray fajr behind him, then go up to my room and repeat it by myself. I did this and want to know is this permissible? Also does this mean my salah in jamaat counted as nafil?

[__CVineXPharm__]

Also does this mean my salah in jamaat counted as nafil?

Did you make niyyah of nafl when you would do the jama'ahs?

[Apparpsmose]

Did you make niyyah of nafl when you would do the jama'ahs?

Not sure if that answers his question brother and also remember praying nawafil is not allowed during Fajr time.

Can anyone with knowledge accurately answer the OP's question?





P.S. Brother Arsl, if it was me, I would pray behind him out of respect but then repeat the salah like you are doing. In which case, in my opinion, if it was a Fajr or 'Asr salat for example when nafl is not allowed, then my intention would be to just repeat the Fardh properly as per my knowledge and 'forget' about the one I prayed behind him. The rest is upto Allah if He may choose to reward you for both or not. He is the Most Merciful so I don't doubt that Insha'Allah you are getting reward for many things in this situation, such as having respect for your father, compromising your salah due to it, and then making sure to repeat it... Insha'Allah all of that is huge reward.

You can also try politely explaining to your dad (I don't know your dad, you know better how he would take it. If he gets angry easily then maybe not or have an elder or your mom or someone do it), and then you can offer to lead the salah if you have a beard and proper tajweed.

Remember all of the above is my personal opinion and I have no scholarly basis for saying what I'm saying.

Allah knows best.

[Lebybynctisee]

But what if you lead instead? try saying "baba how about i give you a break today" or something. And if he enjoys your recitation maybe he'll always let you lead, then problem solved right?

[strongjannabiz]

Not sure if that answers his question brother and also remember praying nawafil is not allowed during Fajr time.

I wasn't answering his question, rather asking for clarification.
It is important to know what niyyah he made for his prayers in jama'ah, as the validity of his individual prayers may depend on his niyyah during jama'ah.

[littlePen]

No, I did not make niyyah for nafl in jama'ah. Rather, I make niyyah for Fardh, and then when I repeat I make niyyah for fardh again. But regardless of my niyyah, the salah in jama'ah would still count as nafl for me right?

[htDgExh8]

But what if you lead instead? try saying "baba how about i give you a break today" or something. And if he enjoys your recitation maybe he'll always let you lead, then problem solved right?

My dad actually offers me to lead the prayer now sometimes, and I accept. But he doesn't always offer. So those prayers which I pray behind him I repeat, and those which I lead I do not repeat. I guess I'll just have to assume this routine for the remainder of Ramadan.

[replicajoy]

No, I did not make niyyah for nafl in jama'ah. Rather, I make niyyah for Fardh, and then when I repeat I make niyyah for fardh again. But regardless of my niyyah, the salah in jama'ah would still count as nafl for me right?

If you really plan repeating your Salah you shoudn't pray behind your dad with niyyah for fard. Pray with niyyah of nafil and then pray your fardh alone if that's what you want to do.

[BamSaitinypap]

If you really plan repeating your Salah you shoudn't pray behind your dad with niyyah for fard. Pray with niyyah of nafil and then pray your fardh alone if that's what you want to do.

I haven't been doing that. I'll start doing that from now on.

But those prayers I prayed behind my dad with niyyah of fard, will they count as nafl or will they not count at all?

[Tnzxovoz]

I wasn't answering his question, rather asking for clarification.
It is important to know what niyyah he made for his prayers in jama'ah, as the validity of his individual prayers may depend on his niyyah during jama'ah.

Why would that matter? Even if he prayed with intention of fard, praying behind a clean shaven person is makruh tahrimi, and thus would necessitate that you make up the prayer again.

[huedaanydrax]

From Ascent to Felicity; Shaykh Faraz Khan; White Thread Press; pg. 36:

We deem congregational prayer behind any Muslim, whether righteous or corrupt, to be valid.

I would think to (indirectly) insult or demean your father would be of greater haram than a makruhat. Regardless your prayer would be valid, the bare minimum for recitation also according to the same book is one verse. Is at least one verse being recited with acceptable tajweed? And does bad tajweed even invalidate the prayer? I don't know, look it up inshallah.

Lastly I was in a similiar position as you, with people wiping socks, clean shaven etc. husn nudhan and checking my own pride, and an understanding of fiqh alleviated me from your present worry.

Also spending time perfecting your sunnah and nawafil and making up for missed prayers would be better time spent not to mention making dua for your father, than redoing a prayer that the sacred law doesn't require you to make up.

[mymnarorump]

Lastly I was in a similiar position as you, with people wiping socks, clean shaven etc. husn nudhan and checking my own pride, and an understanding of fiqh alleviated me from your present worry.

If people make masah on normal socks your Salah behind them is just invalid.
Nothing to do with pride.