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Old 08-13-2012, 01:50 AM   #1
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Default The Shia view of the wives of the Prophet (pbuh)
I wonder if we will have a rebuttal of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8TEY...layer_embedded
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:00 AM   #2
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Salam Alaikum,

Refute what? Please mention the main points he raises so that we can deal with him. I can't bother to listen to lies for 53 minutes.

Let me tell you the Shia view of the wives of the Prophet (saw)
- They hate and slander mother of believers Aisha (ra) and some of them don't even consider her to be a Muslima.
- Some of them accuse her of Adultry (ayazubillah).
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:00 AM   #3
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Salams Dear brother actually not all shia's believe nor follow thee above that you mentioned. So you can't put all your eggs in one basket. this whole sunni vs shia thing needs to be knocked on the head there is misconception and misunderstanding from both points.
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:04 AM   #4
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That's news for me, sister!

Unless and until you are talking about some Shia who DOESN'T KNOW that he has to hate Ummahaatul Mu'mineen, I think, there is no exception to what Abu Muslim Khorasani has said.

Allah knows best.
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:37 AM   #5
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Dear brother do you even know any shia? I do, so unless you have 100% proof about shia then don't make assumptions. no one has the right to judge, except Allah.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:32 AM   #6
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I do know many Shia individuals, alhamdulillah.

Pick any fair standard by which we can tell conclusively whether certain group of people believe or disbelieve in something. We can discuss this issue further from there, insha Allah.

You say that none has a right to judge anyone. Yet you assumed that I am making assumptions

Jazakillahu khair.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:40 AM   #7
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1) there are many different types of shia.

2) shia have a strong ethic of taqqiya (dissimulation, lying) because they lived in majority sunni areas it was pragmatic to lie about their true beliefs.

3) maybe some shia do not curse the companions of the Prophet (though it is highly improbable).

The shia claim that the companions of the Prophet saw mostly left Islam or only pretended to be Muslims, only Ali and a handful of others remain true. Yes shia is not Islam it is a different religion known as shiaism...they should be invited to Islam.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:54 AM   #8
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I took the time out to listen to this guys ****. He is doing tafseer of Quran according to his own whims and desires. He is so illogical and clearly is playing here with the Quran and is lying and slandering on Allah nauzubillah!

Another useless Shia Zakir. And yes he is not saying it directly but he is implying that Ayesha r.a was a disbeliever nauzubillah. Makes one think is that what he harbors in his heart. But khair that is for Allah to judge.

No wonder Quran states close to the effect that through this book we guide many and through this book we let many be misguided. This video was a perfect example.
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:05 AM   #9
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This guy is a real crackpot, caught another glimpse one of his "lectures" (if you can call them that) where he took the online video series "the arrivals" as complete truth and started to come out with the most absurd theories. I would normally question somebody who has such warped logic but when it comes to the Shiites...well that's what they are famous for. They probably look at logic and common sense as being characteristics of nawasiibs lol
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:01 AM   #10
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Salams Thats not judging fyi thats assumping by error. Forgive me brother lets not debate.
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:47 AM   #11
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I wonder if we will have a rebuttal of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8TEY...layer_embedded
Oh its this dog again. Why promote this lunatics babbling?
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:09 AM   #12
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I wonder if we will have a rebuttal of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8TEY...layer_embedded
Several Shia allegations have been refuted here:
Refutation of various Shia slanders against Ayesha(as)
http://youpuncturedtheark.wordpress....us-slanderers/


Defence of Ahlelbayt[wives of Prophet/mothers of believers] from the Religious Slanderers.
http://youpuncturedtheark.wordpress....us-slanderers/
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:13 AM   #13
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Salams Dear brother actually not all shia's believe nor follow thee above that you mentioned. So you can't put all your eggs in one basket. this whole sunni vs shia thing needs to be knocked on the head there is misconception and misunderstanding from both points.
Walaikum Salam,

We are talking about their BELIEFS not what individuals think or say. I know some Shiite who don't curse/slander Sahaba and respect mother of believers (ra), this is good for them and their Akhirah, but this doesn't represent the beliefs of the SHIA SECT.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:16 AM   #14
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Salams Thats not judging fyi thats assumping by error. Forgive me brother lets not debate.
Salam Aleykum,

Dear Sister the Shia and all matters related to them are considered advanced Islamic topics, it is better that you do not give an opinion since apparently you are not qualified, and by qualified I mean you have not studied under scholars who have researched this matter nor have you read the Shia books nor are you familiar with their content.

I hope you understand.
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Old 08-13-2012, 11:31 AM   #15
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no one has the right to judge, except Allah.
Oh, again..
So why did Allah Himself gave us rulings and admonishment in order to distinguish Haqq and Batil?
"No one has the right to judge" is a christian-liberal concept, not an Islamic one.
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:32 AM   #16
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Dear brother do you even know any shia? I do, so unless you have 100% proof about shia then don't make assumptions. no one has the right to judge, except Allah.
Dear sister are you a shia
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:36 AM   #17
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Salam Aleykum,

Dear Sister the Shia and all matters related to them are considered advanced Islamic topics, it is better that you do not give an opinion since apparently you are not qualified, and by qualified I mean you have not studied under scholars who have researched this matter nor have you read the Shia books nor are you familiar with their content.

I hope you understand.
Totally agree with tripoly
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