[TeftyJokip]

Assalamu Alaikum,

Could someone recommend an English book that relates the proofs in the Shafi'i School (specially regarding Salah)? I do have The Reliance of the Traveller which, despite being an awesome book, doesn't contain the proofs.

Jazak Allah Khair

Saif

[payowlirriply]

I highly recommend the book Buloogh ul-Muraam, by ibn Hajar al-Asqalaani. It contains many of the proofs for the school (but not all), and it is limited to hadith (ie. any judgements that are based on ayat are not included). But it is a good start.

[Gasfghj]

Wassalam Br. Yahya,

Jazak Allah Khair for the suggestion.

However, upon doing a google search, I found that the text is not in english nor is it readily available. I was thinking on the level of ''Fiqh Al Imam: Key Proofs in Hanafi Fiqh'', i.e. is there a Shafi'i counterpart available that is as readily accessible to Muslims in the west?

Saif

[anderriter]

Assalamu Alaikum,

Could someone recommend an English book that relates the proofs in the Shafi'i School (specially regarding Salah)? I do have The Reliance of the Traveller which, despite being an awesome book, doesn't contain the proofs.

Jazak Allah Khair

Saif

As Salamu Alaykum


The only english work that has proofs for the Shafi'i school is the hard to find Fiqh al Ibadat According to the Shafi'i school of Thought. This used to be sold at Alhambra productions website but its out of print and no longer being sold. I'm sure inshallah if you look for this title on the net it might be sold somewhere. It is a modern Shafi'i fiqh work that has evidences for the rulings on ibadat but they are brief. I haven't seen really any work that has been translated that strictly has the proofs for the madhhab (with the exception of some Hanafi works recently translated).

I think its quite dangerous for beginning students to delve into proofs without first learning and understanding the rulings. Traditionally one learns a matun or short work of fiqh, memorizes it and comprehends the material. As one advances in studies, they learn more details to those rulings with the eventual learning of the proofs and reasoning of the school. By that point one is close to the level of mufti.

But I see your point. In this day and age where every do-it-yourself Muslim is banging you over the head to give them dalil to everything you do, out contemporary ulama who have a good command of the english should translate some of the important proof text works of the madhahib.

The ones I know of that are proofs for the Shafi'i school but are in Arabic are the huge works like Al Majmu' of Imam Nawawi (finished by Imam Taqi ad Din As Subki because Imam Nawawi died before completing the work), Al Hawi al Kabir of Imam Mawardi, As Sunan al Kubra of Imam Bayhaqi , and others.


Wa Llahu Alim

[h4z1XBI7]

Wassalam Br. Yahya,

Jazak Allah Khair for the suggestion.

However, upon doing a google search, I found that the text is not in english nor is it readily available. I was thinking on the level of ''Fiqh Al Imam: Key Proofs in Hanafi Fiqh'', i.e. is there a Shafi'i counterpart available that is as readily accessible to Muslims in the west?

Saif

Bulugh al-Maram is online and in English.

http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/Bulugh%20Al-Maram.pdf

Enjoy.

[Gooracouppy]

Salamu aleykum

Bulugh al-maram is not a book containing the evidence of the shafi'i school.

[zoolissentesy]

The arabic in shirazi muhathab, mari'fa al-sunan wal-athar by Imam Bayhaqi are easy to follow. But as many a teacher has said get you what down before why.

[paralelogram]

Salamu aleykum

Bulugh al-maram is not a book containing the evidence of the shafi'i school.

Thats right. There is a Darussalam version in print which I hve read. It's just a compilation of hadiths. It never talked about the shafii madhab.

[AndyPharmc]

Thats right. There is a Darussalam version in print which I hve read. It's just a compilation of hadiths. It never talked about the shafii madhab.

I think that the brother meant since Imaam Ibn Hajr (rah) was Shafi'i, the ahadith may be particularly relevant.

[metrocartockasur]

Thats right. There is a Darussalam version in print which I hve read. It's just a compilation of hadiths. It never talked about the shafii madhab.

It is a collection of Hadith, yes, but it IS according to the Shafi'i school. You will not find, for example, hadith saying that the ma'moom (muqtadi) can remain silent behind the imam (which is the Hanafi ruling).

Don't get me wrong. It is NOT a book of fiqh. It does not give the Shafi'i opinions. It only gives the evidence.

[blogwado]

Salamu aleykum dear brother

The book contains the most important ahadith concerning shari'a rulings. Its not based on any particular madh-hab.
Bulugh al-Maram holds a unique distinction as all the hadith compiled in the book have been the sources for fiqh (Islamic Jurisprudence) rulings (Wikipedia)

[TagBahthuff]

Again, do not misunderstand me. I didn't say that it is BASED on the Shafi'i school. In fact, it is NOT a book of fiqh at all. Rather it is ACCORDING to the Shafi'i school. What I mean is that you will find in the book the hadith that support the Shafi'i judgments. And you will not necessarily find hadith that support the judgments of the other schools.

[Eagevawax]

Assalamu Alaikum,

Could someone recommend an English book that relates the proofs in the Shafi'i School (specially regarding Salah)? I do have The Reliance of the Traveller which, despite being an awesome book, doesn't contain the proofs.

Jazak Allah Khair

Saif

As Salamu Alaykum

I'm assuming at your level of study, you should be learning from the mukhtasars (abridged works that teach the positions of the school without evidence). Once you reach an advanced level of study you will be learning the proofs, methodology, and how to defend the positions of the school.

All the proof text works of the madhhab are in arabic like Al Majmu' Sharh al Muhadhdhab, Al Hawi al Kabir of Imam Mawardi, and others. These works are 20 plus volumes long.

[jgztw2es]

As Salamu Alaykum

I'm assuming at your level of study, you should be learning from the mukhtasars (abridged works that teach the positions of the school without evidence). Once you reach an advanced level of study you will be learning the proofs, methodology, and how to defend the positions of the school.

All the proof text works of the madhhab are in arabic like Al Majmu' Sharh al Muhadhdhab, Al Hawi al Kabir of Imam Mawardi, and others. These works are 20 plus volumes long.

Salaam Shaykh,

SubhanAllah - this is an ancient thread which I started in 2008. Alhamdulillah, since then, Allah has enabled me to study a lot of the blessed fiqh of Imam ash-Shafi'i. I am now aware of these books in Arabic and they are on the "3-5 year plan" inshaAllah.

Also - if you have a chance, you can also help out here inshaAllah:
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...rained!-Part-2

Jazak Allah Khair. Great to "hear" your voice again.

Wassalaam

[quack!]

Get al-Fiqh al-Manhaji by Mustafa Khinn, et al. It is in three volumes and is very easy to read. It is essentially an abridgement of Mughni al-Muhtaj and is designed for intermediate and high school Arab students.

I disagree with the view that evidences should not be taught from the outset. I taught fiqh to eleven and twelve year olds in England last year and mentioned the hadith alongside the masa'il. The kids were not confused at all. In fact it increased their desire to learn more. In this age, one needs to be confident that madhab-based fiqh has a close relationship with the sources. The Shafi'i madhab has a special relationship with hadith and fiqh is not fiqh if it does not have a connection with its sources. Anything less is simply ma'rifat al-masa'il. It is distasteful for an alim or student of knowledge to not know the evidences for the masa'il when asked.

There is a great sharh of Umdat al-Salik by Alawi al-Saqqaf that is full of hadith referencing. It also mentions the eighty or so instances where Ibn al-Naqib went against the mu'tamad positions of the school. Unfortunately, this book is very rare to find, though I do believe copies of the manuscript are at Umm al-Qurra. Mustafa al-Bagha (who co-wrote al-Fiqh a-Manhaji) has a sharh full of hadiths too and his is much easier to find (it's also easier to read).

[VoriEremiagem]

IMHO, alFiqh alManhaji is a good text for teaching Shafi'e fiqh, ie good for public to learn fiqh WITH a qualified teacher. In Malaysia, I think it is becoming one of the favourite text for teaching shafie fiqh in masajid in Malaysia.

However, for people who wants to delve in-depth, may find alFiqh alManhaji NOT deep enough in discussing the masa'il.

Wallaahu a'lam.

[myspauyijbv]

IMHO, alFiqh alManhaji is a good text for teaching Shafi'e fiqh, ie good for public to learn fiqh WITH a qualified teacher. In Malaysia, I think it is becoming one of the favourite text for teaching shafie fiqh in masajid in Malaysia.

However, for people who wants to delve in-depth, may find alFiqh alManhaji NOT deep enough in discussing the masa'il.

Wallaahu a'lam.

Salaam Ustadh Silat

Jazak Allah Khair for your recommendation. How is the book broken down?

I found volume 1 on Scribd but it's only 185 pages. Looking at the TOC, it goes up to adaab of visiting graves. Could you confirm (inshaAllah) that this reflects the hard copy Arabic volumes?

http://www.scribd.com/collections/24...h-Al-Manhaji-1

[engideNedmupe]

Salaam Ustadh Silat

Jazak Allah Khair for your recommendation. How is the book broken down?

I found volume 1 on Scribd but it's only 185 pages. Looking at the TOC, it goes up to adaab of visiting graves. Could you confirm (inshaAllah) that this reflects the hard copy Arabic volumes?

http://www.scribd.com/collections/24...h-Al-Manhaji-1

wa'alaykum assalaam.
Hopefully sh Isa al-Asiri can assist you on the break down of the kitab as I think he has the kitab with him.

nb: pls just call me bro ... jazaakallaahu khoyron.

[GtmFeqJJ]

Al-Fiqh al-Manhaji is in three volumes in the newer editions published by Dar al-Qalam (mine is the 10th edition, 2008) whereas the earlier editions (first published in 1978) are in eight short volumes. I have seen a new version published in one volume.

The book is broken down in the typical manner of Shafi'i books. Sidi Silat's point about detail does hold true, though the book was written for Arab intermediate school students (aged around 14) and the general public, who do not need the detail. It covers the essential masa'il whilst mentioning evidences, wisdom, reasoning, etc. I believe it has been translated into Malay and that probably explains its popularity with the masses in Malaysia.

Here is the 4th edition from 1992:

http://www.waqfeya.com/book.php?bid=5490

Do note that Mustafa al-Bagha's commentary on Umdat al-Salik mentions the evidences for the masa'il and that Umdat al-Salik is more detailed than al-Fiqh al-Manhaji:

http://www.furat.com/?Prog=book&Page=bookinfo&id=8153

http://archive.org/details/tanwer