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Old 08-13-2012, 12:18 AM   #1
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Default Egypt president Mohamed Morsi forces top generals to retire
Hussein Tantawi and Sami Enan step down as defence minister and chief of staff as Morsi revokes military's interim powers.

Egypt's president, Mohamed Morsi, has ordered Egypt's two top generals to retire and revoked a military-declared constitutional amendment that gave them wide powers.

Field Marshall Hussein Tantawi, who led Egypt after Hosni Mubarak was ousted, retires as defence minster and Sami Enan steps down as chief of staff.

The decisions are effective immediately, presidential spokesman Yasser Ali said in a news conference broadcast on state TV on Sunday.

The cancelled constitutional declaration was issued by the ruling army council in June and aimed to limit presidential powers as the election that brought Morsi to office drew to a close.

The new Morsi-appointed defence minister is Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi. A senior judge, Mahmoud Mekki, has been appointed vice-president. Tantawi and Enan have become presidential advisers. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...enerals-retire
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:39 AM   #2
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What's interesting here is the role of Saudi Arabia. I have often read that the Saudis support the MB financially. But they are no fans of the Palestinian branch, Hamas, so that claim is questionable.

Instead, the Saudis were big fans of Mubarak...and now are reported to actively support the Salafis, along with Qatar.

Could the MB's biggest problem be that they have no powerful patron? The colonial powers don't like them because they represent opposition. The Saudis and Qataris don't like them because of their religion. And the Israelis don't like anybody very much, except well-armed, reliably bought off dictators, which conveniently suits the other powerful players to a tee.
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Old 08-13-2012, 01:43 AM   #3
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whose the daddy now then lol
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:05 AM   #4
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As if this is going to change anything!!! Getting rid of some old and useless generals who never won a battle in their life.
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:25 AM   #5
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its not about him

its about on who hold the reins
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:59 AM   #6
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MB are not going to be bring khilafat or implement full sharia but they will gradually bring in major changes in Egypt
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:20 AM   #7
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MB are not going to be bring khilafat or implement full sharia but they will gradually bring in major changes in Egypt
InshaAllah

time will tell
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:27 AM   #8
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As if this is going to change anything!!! Getting rid of some old and useless generals who never won a battle in their life.
For these soldiers, they weren't dangerous for their prowess on the battlefield, but for their political ability. They are very dangerous and are responsible for the vast majority of bloodshed during the revolution. I'm actually worried Dr.Morsi might have over-reached himself - Inshallah he will be safe and Egypt will become a better place for everyone. I loved his speech today, it gave me spinetingles just to read the translation as it came in:
'We are moving towards a better tomorrow Inshallah. Don't worry because Allah swt is protecting this country'
'Today this Ummah is back. it has been sidelined for too long. It needs awareness from its sons, hardwork and sacrifice'
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:59 AM   #9
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For these soldiers, they weren't dangerous for their prowess on the battlefield, but for their political ability. They are very dangerous and are responsible for the vast majority of bloodshed during the revolution. I'm actually worried Dr.Morsi might have over-reached himself - Inshallah he will be safe and Egypt will become a better place for everyone. I loved his speech today, it gave me spinetingles just to read the translation as it came in:
'We are moving towards a better tomorrow Inshallah. Don't worry because Allah swt is protecting this country'
'Today this Ummah is back. it has been sidelined for too long. It needs awareness from its sons, hardwork and sacrifice'
he has filled the positions left vacant by the outgoing ministers and even appointed a VP so he should be fine
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:49 PM   #10
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Yeh, this move gives some hope.
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:16 PM   #11
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What is Islamist?
There is some terminology that has been introduced in the modern discourse, journalism in particular but media in general, that should be objected to by Muslims. The word Islamist qualifies this category.

Here is an excerpt from today :

CAIRO (Reuters) - Egypt's Islamist President Mohamed Mursi dismissed Cairo's two top generals and quashed a military order that had curbed the new leader's powers, in a move that further stamped his authority on the country and its army.

Now what is an Islamist? Well if you mean a person who intends to implement Islam in his life then there is already a word for that - Muslim.

So why this new word? The reason is not rocket science to fathom. After decimating USSR in Afghanistan the US in particular and the west in general was looking for a suitable enemy to run down. Bernard Lewis and Samuel Huntington supplied them one - Muslims. But it is not easy to create an enemy - even for the west at its deceptive best. So Al-Qaida was created. People will remember that there was no such organization - it is a creation of US foreign policy. Once they used the term enough then Usama Bin Laden too started using it. And once that was done then there is no looking back. Earlier Muslim movements that sought to implement Islam in not only private but public life too were legitimate targets to be criticized.

Now what is wrong if Muslims want to implement Islam in their life? Christians denounced their religion as a reaction to past Church atrocities but Muslims have no such compulsion. So why expect them to denounce Islam in public life. Jewish people are the luckiest in this game. It is strange that west that frown a lot at practice of Islam completely ignores the fact that they have supplied a most protected cocoon to Jewish people to practice their religion - Israel. May be a new slogan has to be introduced into the same public discourse - hands off Islam. Source : Armchair
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:37 PM   #12
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OT: maripat where is Abu Tamim?
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:43 PM   #13
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OT: maripat where is Abu Tamim?
Should be fine.
He was extra busy in professional matters before Ramadan. In Ramadan it must have become more tight - we do not live in Islamic society here. I received a message from him a few days back about a company that does not employ Muslims.
So basically he is just busy.
I'll try to call him later, IA, to prime you people more.
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