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Old 08-12-2012, 11:46 PM   #1
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Default This is the type of "freedom" that Muslims want?
A report just released by the US Government Accountability Office explains how the Federal Reserve divvied up more than $4 trillion in low-interest loans after the fiscal crisis of 2008, and the news shouldn't be all that surprising. When the Federal Reserve looked towards bailing out some of the biggest banks in the country, more than one dozen of the financial institutions that benefited from the Fed's Hail Mary were members of the central bank's own board, reports the GAO. At least 18 current and former directors of the Fed's regional branches saw to it that their own banks were awarded loans with often next-to-no interest by the country's central bank during the height of the financial crisis that crippled the American economy and spurred rampant unemployment and home foreclosures for those unable to receive assistance. – RT

Theme: It is necessary for Fed board members to bail out their own banks. That's what it is there for.

This in a country where small time criminals are shot or locked up in jail for stealing a few hundred dollars, allows 4 Trillion dollars of low interest loans to be given to insiders working for the central bank. And people are losing their homes, and these bankers are getting welfare!! Seriously this should be enough to string the criminals up, yet nothing happens just indifferent acceptance and wilful ignorance from 'the people' who are sovereign rulers.
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Old 08-12-2012, 11:51 PM   #2
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find this DVD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Corporation_(film)
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:05 AM   #3
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Brother Abu Zakir the Muslims who are calling for Freedom (Arab spring movement) want freedom from the tyrants and the tyranny of the past, that is what freedom means to them.

They are not against money with a gold standard, it is not something that they are calling for because it is just not high in their consciousness.

Instead of criticizing them all the time to what is largely not an Arab forum promote what you know in ways that will reach them (why not post these things on the English language Arab forums if you don't know conversational Arabic).
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:08 AM   #4
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I never thought about posting on Arab forums...good idea.

Tyrants of the past will just be replaced with newer tyrants...the west has these tyrants, the politicians are just theater for the masses and they protect the bankers.


Muslims who are calling for Freedom want freedom from the tyrants of the past.

They are not against money with a gold standard, it is just not high in their consciousness.

Instead of criticizing them all the time to what is largely not an Arab forum promote what you know in ways that will reach them (why not post these things on the English language Arab forums if you don't know conversational Arabic).
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:10 AM   #5
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We will see what happens InshaAllah
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:12 AM   #6
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Do you know any Arab English speaking forums? My search just now just brought up language learning forums.
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:31 AM   #7
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This in a country where small time criminals are shot or locked up in jail for stealing a few hundred dollars,
So what should the police in America do when they catch a small time criminal stealing money?

Just tell them it's Ok and let them go free??

You never fail to amuse.............
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:57 AM   #8
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So what should the police in America do when they catch a small time criminal stealing money?

Just tell them it's Ok and let them go free??

You never fail to amuse.............
he was illustrating the hypocrisy of the system and laws by citing that as a comparison.
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:22 AM   #9
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he was illustrating the hypocrisy of the system and laws by citing that as a comparison.
The only hypocrisy is in the brothers head.

The bankers did not break any laws; so there was nothing criminal to charge them with.

Quite simple when you think about it............
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:25 AM   #10
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In America land of the free, home of the brave:

steal 100 dollars you can get shot, or jailed (rightly so).

steal a trillion dollars via the banking system, get thousands to lose their homes, destroy their livelihoods and you go free and are given high status. This is freedom?

Some Americans cannot see this hypocrisy, they are not enraged...they want to ridicule the reporter....it is quite simple for others to comprehend.

BTW this also happens in Britain so its not a anti-American thing its a world wide system of economic fraud and theft. And millions die every year from this....who cares lets watch the Olympics.
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:28 AM   #11
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In America land of the free, home of the brave:
Something we can finally agree on............
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:52 AM   #12
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The only hypocrisy is in the brothers head.

The bankers did not break any laws; so there was nothing criminal to charge them with.

Quite simple when you think about it............
the bankers did not break any laws because the laws are hypocritical and favour the bankers.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:04 AM   #13
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the bankers did not break any laws because the laws are hypocritical and favour the bankers.
I once saw a banker that I personally know run a Stop sigh with his car and didn't get arrested.

Oh!! the hypocrisy.............
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:09 AM   #14
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I once saw a banker that I personally know run a Stop sigh with his car and didn't get arrested.

Oh!! the hypocrisy.............
masalama
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:12 AM   #15
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Support the Bankers they need your support...they are just hard working honest people. I am not a shill honest guv!


And the Servants of the Merciful who walk
softley on earth; and if the ignorant people
speak to them they say: "Peace."
Quran 25:63

"Indeed those who believed and did good
deeds, the Merciful will provide love for
them." Quran 19:96

So glory of God in the evening and in the morning;
and to Him is the praises in the heavens and earth,
at night and in the afternoon. Quran 30:17-18

..and glorify by the praises of your Lord before the
sun rises and before its setting; and glorify parts
of the night and the ends of the day that you may
be content. Quran 20:130

And when the millions who died as a result of the actions of the criminal bankers ask who defended and justified their actions, I will say it was not I. Robbery and theft is robbery and theft regardless of state laws created by bankers agents.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:25 AM   #16
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Don Quixote railed against windmills.

Much like you do against the evil bankers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quixote
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:16 AM   #17
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The Noble Qur'an - Al-Baqarah 275-281
275. Those who eat Ribâ (usury) will not stand (on the Day of Resurrection) except like the standing of a person beaten by Shaitân (Satan) leading him to insanity. That is because they say: "Trading is only like Ribâ (usury)," whereas Allâh has permitted trading and forbidden Ribâ (usury). So whosoever receives an admonition from his Lord and stops eating Ribâ (usury) shall not be punished for the past; his case is for Allâh (to judge); but whoever returns [to Ribâ (usury)], such are the dwellers of the Fire - they will abide therein.

276. Allâh will destroy Ribâ (usury) and will give increase for Sadaqât (deeds of charity, alms, etc.) And Allâh likes not the disbelievers, sinners.

277. Truly those who believe, and do deeds of righteousness, and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât), and give Zakât, they will have their reward with their Lord. On them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

278. O you who believe! Be afraid of Allâh and give up what remains (due to you) from Ribâ (usury) (from now onward), if you are (really) believers.

279. And if you do not do it, then take a notice of war from Allâh and His Messenger but if you repent, you shall have your capital sums. Deal not unjustly (by asking more than your capital sums), and you shall not be dealt with unjustly (by receiving less than your capital sums).

280. And if the debtor is in a hard time (has no money), then grant him time till it is easy for him to repay, but if you remit it by way of charity, that is better for you if you did but know.

281. And be afraid of the Day when you shall be brought back to Allâh. Then every person shall be paid what he earned, and they shall not be dealt with unjustly. Hadhrat Abu Hurairah (R.A.) says that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, "Undoubtedly, a period will come upon the people wherein not a single person will be saved from indulging in interest. If anyone avoids direct indulgence in interest yet he will not escape the smoke (effects) thereof. Its effects will somehow reach him.
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:59 AM   #18
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Don Quixote railed against windmills.

Much like you do against the evil bankers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quixote
Don Quixote was also a simile based cultural/political fable by its author, Cervantes, in opposition to the tyranny Spain's treatment of Moors, cryptic Muslims, and Jews remaining in Spain and the destruction of the 600 year existance of Andalusia's Islamic heritage.


Cervantes pretended that the story of Don Quixote originated from Spain's Arab legacy.
"Cervantes recounts how he acquired a book and then looked around for a Moor to translate it. "It was not very difficult" to find such a Moor, he writes. In fact, he says, he could have even found a translator of Hebrew.

The Arabic manuscript, the Moor tells him, is the "History of Don Quixote de la Mancha, written by Cide Hamete Benengeli, an Arab historian." Cervantes brings the Moor to the cloister of a church and commissions a translation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/13/ar...pagewanted=all


Here's an insight into Cervantes treatment of Don Quixote jousting with windmills:

Don Quixote sees things in a confused state: Windmills, which were introduced by Muslim engineers into Spain, become monsters he needs to fight. This is a reference to the current struggle (righteous warfare), that the current polity was exercising to repress the Andalusian past (evil breed).


At this point they came in sight of thirty forty windmills that there are on plain, and as soon as Don Quixote saw them he said to his squire, “Fortune is arranging matters for us better than we could have shaped our desires ourselves, for look there, friend Sancho Panza, where thirty or more monstrous giants present themselves, all of whom I mean to engage in battle and slay, and with whose spoils we shall begin to make our fortunes; for this is righteous warfare, and it is God's good service to sweep so evil a breed from off the face of the earth.”


Cervantes writes in these meta-fictional and duplicitous ways in order to call attention to the current state of despair Spain is locked into; while still remembering what Spain was under Andalusian rule. Both countries are undoubtedly Spain, but both are subject to different cultural influences with very contrasting results.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:24 AM   #19
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Actually, they are guilty of breaking at least a few laws. I'm pretty sure fraud, false advertisement, and collusion are against the law. There are plenty of other very evil things bankers do which are not against the law, but which make them criminals in the view of shariah anyway. Pornographers don't break any laws in America, but they're still mujrimeen.
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