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Old 08-11-2012, 05:24 PM   #1
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What's the point of marriage if people enjoy each other, live together, have children and then x number of years later decide to marry and the kids are present (!!!) at the wedding? After the marriage what's the difference than to before? Many non Muslims just consider marriage a confirmation of their commitments to each other and nothing more.

Why is it children born out of wedlock has no shame these days? In the dictionary such a child is called an impolite word ending in "d" but people don't seem to care?

Btw all children are born pure & sinless regardless of born in or outside marriage.
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Old 08-11-2012, 05:33 PM   #2
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What's the point of marriage if people enjoy each other, live together, have children and then x number of years later decide to marry and the kids are present (!!!) at the wedding? After the marriage what's the difference than to before? Many non Muslims just consider marriage a confirmation of their commitments to each other and nothing more.

Why is it children born out of wedlock has no shame these days? In the dictionary such a child is called an impolite word ending in "d" but people don't seem to care?

Btw all children are born pure & sinless regardless of born in or outside marriage.
Sister, there are some realities me n u have to accept. Non Muslims have disgraced Islam and Islamic rulings and Laws. For them, us marrying and having kids after marriage is an old fashioned and a idiotic thing!! ( May Allah Forgive). In todays era, there is no shame, there is no Haya...And we muslims are soo stupid that we then accept the customs of Non Muslims.. Yesterday I met a sister asking that Why Cant we date in Islam.... Sister, this is because we didnot represent the real Islam to the Non Muslims. Non muslims think that for Muslims Wedding is just a contract in which the MEN are given the rights to do whatever he wants to his wife. I am really Sorry but I have seen people in Pakistan who dont consider women as humans, to them Women are Salves, Baby reproducting machines, and a worker for the whole household.. I have seen many Islamic families treating their Women like this. Muslims! We have to represnt the REAL ISLAM TO THE WORLD! THE ISLAM OF NABI KAREEM (PBUH)
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:26 PM   #3
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Marriage is considered pointless by most non Muslim men. They get what they need without the need to marry. Weddings cost money, even if they can make it cheap most women want a big day. The laws in non Muslim countries make it difficult for the man if the marriage fails all his wealth is taken away from him.

Many middle class women want to marry before they have children. Marriage is seen as a religious thing, and because they are not religious they do not need it. I just heard a speech about marriage by a Muslim today...he said "marriage is a unity where two people learn to forgive each other" overlook each others faults and where the desire to make the other person happy is present. The Quran says the husband and wife are 'a garment' for each other, this means they protect each other like clothes protect the body, and like the clothing is the closest thing to a humans body they are close. A couple who get married must develop their own secret language and signs, give each other their time, listen to each other, and refuse to let anyone or anything else come between them. The man should be an Amir or leader...Democracy does not work in the home and it does not work in a country.
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:32 PM   #4
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...Democracy does not work in the home and it does not work in a country.
LOL, you are definitely a one trick pony.........
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:56 PM   #5
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Burning issues with problems of the world presently and status quo of matter. Mars is the next frontier the world people want to now mess or at least con the people and give everyone false hope and make them even more slaves.
Depressing documentaries made by the kuffar themselves prove beyond doubt that spiritually and materially the "white man" (sorry bro revert and all- nothing personal) has enslaved the world and messed it up the same time. SLAVERY... yes SLAVERY!!!.. is the issue.
When the Sahaba RA when to meet the King of Persia this is what they offered: "We have come to release you from the bondage of this world".... whats all this "occupy wall street" about then?....
This is my naive 2cents..!
My naive 2 cents!!

Have a look at this:
http://news.yahoo.com/man-forced-pri...opstories.html
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Old 08-11-2012, 10:53 PM   #6
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Pride v. Humility

Insha'Allah Shaykh Husain's talk on the Importance of Humility will be helpful.

We are slaves of Allah Pride has no place here and will only bring us down, slow any progress we make and even undo our good deeds. No matter what, we need to remind ourselves that everything (including the non-Muslim) is a creation of Allah Never think we are somehow better than others. We are servants of Allah We turn to the best of creation, our prophets, as our example and see that they would "serve people by day and Allah by night" and this is exactly what we need to strive to do too. Humility is the key and we need it in our hearts in order to progress insha'Allah.

We should keep in mind that every single non-Muslim has the potential of being better than us because they can utter a true tawbah at any moment and earn the pleasure of Allah so try to keep this in mind:

Every Muslim is better than me in reality & every kaffir has the potential to be better than me.

And don't let pride keep seeping into the heart... block it insha'Allah.

Listen to the short talk insha'Allah - it is full of examples of humility from our history.

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Old 08-12-2012, 12:50 AM   #7
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Burning issues with problems of the world presently and status quo of matter. Mars is the next frontier the world people want to now mess or at least con the people and give everyone false hope and make them even more slaves.
Depressing documentaries made by the kuffar themselves prove beyond doubt that spiritually and materially the "white man" (sorry bro revert and all- nothing personal) has enslaved the world and messed it up the same time. SLAVERY... yes SLAVERY!!!.. is the issue.
When the Sahaba RA when to meet the King of Persia this is what they offered: "We have come to release you from the bondage of this world".... whats all this "occupy wall street" about then?....
This is my naive 2cents..!
My naive 2 cents!!
No problem brother.

I never owned any slaves.

They cost too much; plus you have to feed them..........
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