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Respected Mufti Sahib, and others:

I was intrigued by the discussion in http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...distance/page3 . I have a question though ..

1. When the Fuqaha say that the distance travelled in three days would change based on time and place, it DOES NOT mean that it will change based on the type on conveyance. Walking or the pace of a camel (which are similar) is what is taken into account. The Fuqaha have clearly stated that if a person travels in one day the distance normally traveled in 3 days on account of a fast conveyance, then he would still become a musafir.
If you have understood this, then the arguments about airplanes etc would be answered.

Here you have mentioned that the distance calculated is based on walking or the pace of a camel. However, you have also mentioned a quote in which traveling by sea is included - indicating that the distance calculation by sea would be different than land.

1) Shams al-Aimmah as-Sarakhsi, who is classified as a mujtahid in masail:

وَلَا مَعْنَى لِلتَّقْدِيرِ بِالْفَرَاسِخِ ، فَإِنَّ ذَلِكَ يَخْتَلِفُ بِاخْتِلَافِ الطُّرُقِ فِي السُّهُولِ وَالْجِبَالِ وَالْبَحْرِ وَالْبَرِّ ، وَإِنَّمَا التَّقْدِيرُ بِالْأَيَّامِ وَالْمَرَاحِلِ
"Calculating it in farsakhs is MEANINGLESS, as it would differ based on the roads, whether they are on normal land, mountains, land or sea. The calculation would ONLY be by days and marahil."

So, in the case of traveling by sea, would one still use the rate of travel of a man walking, or a camel - even though one cannot walk on water? Or would one use the average speed of a passenger boat? In the case of using the average speed of a passenger boat (or something similar) - where does that leave the 'principle' of using the average rate of travel of a man walking or a camel?

Jazaak Allaah Khayr!

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