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Old 02-17-2008, 08:53 AM   #1
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Default Queen Sehba. The First Qadiani Queen?
Queen Sehba. The First Qadiani Queen?
By: ABID ULLAH JAN


There is no question that since October 1999 she has ruled like a Queen. What is she? Who does she belong to? How much influence does she have on Musharraf’s policies and his circle of advisors? What made Musharraf, the proven opportunist, marry her? Research tells us that Ghulam Ghaus Farid belonged to Okara, Panjab. He went to Aligarh to study and his wife was a lady from Lucknow, India. That is how Sehba Musharraf claims to be from Lucknow. Ghulam Ghaus Farid’s family had converted from some Panjabi clan to Qadianiat. Hence the Queen of Pakistani was a born Qadiani and so are many of her relatives who have been given very quick promotions in the Pakistani Army. http://www.icssa.org/article_detail_...1265,1258,1256



The Grooming of a Qadiani Warrior: King Musharraf

Where will they find another King Musharraf Qadiani in the Pakistan Army - promoting the “war within islam” with the most potent army of the Muslims world? They will stick with him. They will stick to the plan. Stay tuned for details. http://www.icssa.org/article_detail_...1265,1258,1256
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Old 02-17-2008, 09:01 AM   #2
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Is there any other report out there that she is definitely a Qadiani? Some even claim she's a Shia...so what is she really? The only other evidence, other than from the article provided I can find is in forums about people saying "they know someone who knows her".

I know there are images on the net of her sharing making a toast with wine and from my understanding this is something a Qadiani would probably do with non-Muslims (though may not drink it).

Allah knows best.
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Old 02-17-2008, 09:08 AM   #3
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Is there any other report out there that she is definitely a Qadiani? Some even claim she's a Shia...so what is she really? The only other evidence, other than from the article provided I can find is in forums about people saying "they know someone who knows her".

I know there are images on the net of her sharing making a toast with wine and from my understanding this is something a Qadiani would probably do with non-Muslims (though may not drink it).

Allah knows best.
There is no way they will admit they are Shias or Qadyanis. But I heard from many knowledage people that they have Shia and Qadyani family.

This was told to me by this guy whose friend used to work in one of the governments offices in Islambad, and he mentioned that he himself saw the record of Musharrafs father and in there his religion was selected as Qadyani.

We might never know until Musharraf is gone.
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Old 02-17-2008, 06:30 PM   #4
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what is mushaaraf? qadiyani or shia
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:49 PM   #5
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what is mushaaraf? qadiyani or shia


Nobody truly knows, his origin is Shia from what I recall, some say he is like a Qadiyani yet he massacred many Shias when he was in the Army. Allah only knows.
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:13 AM   #6
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I have Qadiyaani relatives in Pakistan who confirm mrs musharraf is definately qadiyaani , they know her and some of her relatives personally.
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Old 02-18-2008, 06:13 AM   #7
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Do they know about Musharraf?
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Old 02-18-2008, 06:17 AM   #8
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I have Qadiyaani relatives in Pakistan who confirm mrs musharraf is definately qadiyaani , they know her and some of her relatives personally.
Confirmed and Without doubt!

And in Qadiyani Madhab it is HARAM to give your daughter to a Non-Qadiyani so Allah (SWT) knows best abut Musharraf...

Khanbaba! Wasn't Musharraf's father a Mureed of Chakthalwi (Famous Ahl-e-Hadeeth turned Ahl-e-Quraan)?
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:14 PM   #9
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I did not know this. I though Musharraf was Sunni. :S
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:02 PM   #10
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Khanbaba! Wasn't Musharraf's father a Mureed of Chakthalwi (Famous Ahl-e-Hadeeth turned Ahl-e-Quraan)?
No idea. When did he start doing "Peeri-Mureedi"?
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Old 02-19-2008, 06:25 AM   #11
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I did not know this. I though Musharraf was Sunni. :S
Musharraf also known as Bush-harraf is a Secularist/Nationalist/Murtad
this Secularist spilled the blood of many muslims and openly allies with the Kuffar against the Muslims........

him being a Shiite/Rawafida wouldnt surprise me
him being a Qadiyani wouldnt surprise me either

we know one thing for sure he is an Apostate(Murtad)
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:50 AM   #12
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http://icssa.org/article_detail_pars...link=8&m_id=13

Queen Sehba. The First Qadiani Queen.
By: ABID ULAH JAN
Published: February 15, 2008

However, during her nearly half-an-hour stay at the fort, Begum Musharraf gave a miss to the private mosque, built by Emperor Shahjahan for the ladies of his court, where the staffers were ready with cloth shoes for their distinguished guest, if she decided to go there.

Dressed in a light coffee coloured salwar-kameez, Begum Musharraf pleased the cameramen, who requested her to pose for them, by making an “adaab” gesture while taking a round of the beautiful octagonal “Musamman Burj”.[The Tribune. Tuesday, July 17, 2001, Chandigarh, India]



Pervez Musharraf mentions in this book, “In The Line Of Fire,” about Sehba Farid. But his revelations extend to only the existence of a certain Ghulam Ghaus Farid, the father of Sehba.
Nothing more. And the Pakistani press has been silent (or made silent) about the history of his wife’s family. For a man who raves about the beauty of a woman to be his wife,[i] it is amazing that he is quiet about certain aspects of Sehba’s life. Just as in Budhism they are quiet about the existence of God, we under Mushism are quiet about the Queen of Pakistan.

There is no question that since October 1999 she has ruled like a Queen. What is she? Who does she belong to? How much influence does she have on Musharraf’s policies and his circle of advisors? What made Musharraf, the proven opportunist, marry her? Research tells us that Ghulam Ghaus Farid belonged to Okara, Panjab. He went to Aligarh to study and his wife was a lady from Lucknow, India. That is how Sehba Musharraf claims to be from Lucknow. Ghulam Ghaus Farid’s family had converted from some Panjabi clan to Qadianiat. Hence the Queen of Pakistani was a born Qadiani and so are many of her relatives who have been given very quick promotions in the Pakistani Army.

Some facts came out during the visit of the Queen to India. That she is related to a famous poet.[ii] And some facts came out about Musharraf’s heritage also. Interestingly there was a Pir Baba ka Mazar (Pir Baba’s tob) right inside the house in Darya Ganj,[iii] where his maternal grandfather Qazi Mohtashimuddin used to light a lamp all the time . After Musharraf’s visit to Pir Baba Ka Mazar, the local Hindus came with Ganga water to wash the house. (Not reported in Pakistani Press....)[iv].
In his book Musharraf even forgot to mention Makhdoom Patti, Panipat where his father Musharrafuddin was born to Sharrifuddin (and Amina Begum the daughter of Mohtashimuddin) and the house was next to the Dargah of Hazrat Shah Makhdoom. And Sharifuddin belonged to the family of “Sajjadanasheens” of the Dargah. For a man who talks about an uncle Ghazi Ghulam Haider and episodes of hitting a bald head in the Park in his book - a totally unbelievable story - he could have mentioned his family history if he were not shy about it. Or he had nothing to hide. Why the bald head story is unbelievable is that in Karachi of those days a man who could shine his head with oil did not take a slap on the head twice. He would shove it somewhere.
The queen, Sehba Musharraf, was a Qadiani and remains a Qadiani, a sect also known as Ahmadi and Ahmadiya. Ahmadi’s do not believe that Mohammed (PBUH) was the last prophet – one of the basic tenets of Islamic belief system. Those who don’t believe that Prophet Mohammed was the last prophet are not considered as Muslims. In Paksitan, Qadiaynis/Ahmadi’s have been officially declared as non-Muslims. Thus they harbour resentment and hard feelings for Pakistan and Islam as practiced by Muslims. Ahamdiya sect also has a headquarter in Haifa, Israel. The pictures on the right are from Mahmoud mosque Kababir in Haifa.
Kababir is a neighborhood that was formerly an Arab village. Kababir is the only settlement in Israel whose residents come from the Ahmadiyya sect of Islam. Its founder, an Indian Muslim, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani of Punjab, India, arrived at the village and persuaded its inhabitants to join the sect.
And it is always good to read history.[v] In 1924, it was Syria. Now the target is Pakistan. [vi]
Sehba Musharraf is quiet about all this in the Press but fully acts it. As mentioned earlier, she did not visit the Mosque built for ladies because it was not a Qadiani Mosque. (as above but visited the site of Akbar’s religion.[vii]
It is Musharraf’s religiosity that is interesting. He used to say, he was born Shia. He used to write Syed Pervez Musharraf. For political reasons he became a Syed when he wanted to get the MMA vote. (“How can a Syed go back on his word?” This was when he was giving them a pledge to remove his uniform by December 2004).
For his promotions with Zia, he was a Syed Deobandi. Interestingly to get permission to marry his beautiful wife he had to get the blessings of Mirza Saheb and that you get by secretly pledging (bayat) that you are converting to Qadiani. According to Naveed Musharraf, the brother of Musharraf :
“We are nominal Muslims, in that we don’t go to the mosque very often and neither do we pray five times a day. I don’t know how to read the Quran and neither do my brothers,” said Dr Musharraf. “My father is not a religious person too. We are all very secular. My brother believes that religion and state should be separate and that there is room for all religions.”
Pervez Musharraf has retained some of the rebelliousness of his grandfather.
In an incident recalled by one of Musharraf’s former commanders to Associated Press, the officer recounts how Musharraf once wanted to invite a favourite singer, Iqbal Bano, for a concert at the officer’s mess. But women were not allowed to enter the mess without the permission from the top commander. Musharraf persuaded his senior officer to call the top commander, who was on a pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Permission granted, the singer performed in the mess.[viii]
So Musharraf does have a meaning of “Enlightened Moderation” and like his “Essence of Democracy”, he does have an “Essence of Islam” but he keeps his cards close to his chest. We have heard him play cards only with Brig. Niaz, may be he knows his cards! (Did Brig Niaz visit Kababir?)
It is interesting that Musharraf called Benazir “non-religious”. What did he mean? According to Queen Sehba, all those who do not have a “bayat” to Mirza Saheb are non-Muslims (infidels). Did Musharraf mean that way? Because, many say that Musharraf’s knowledge of Islam is limited to what he learnt from his beautiful Queen.
It should be remembered that Mushrraf had animosity with Bhutto family because his father at one time was suspended from service by Bhutto, and Queen Sehba Musharraf has animosity because Bhutto held hearings on Qadianiat. And the Queen also had assets (her relatives in the Army) who could go after Benazir.

Abid Ullah Jan is the author of seven books on international affairs, including: “The Ultimate Tragedy: Colonialists Rushing to Global War to Save the Crumbling Empire,” “Afghanistan: The Genesis of the Final Crusade,” “The Musharraf Factor: Leading Pakistan to its inevitable demise,” “From BCCI to ISI: The Saga of Entrapment Continues” and “After Fascism: Muslims and the Struggle for Self-Determination.”


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[i]http://johncheeran.blogspot.com/2006...k-of-lies.html
[ii]http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/jun/04pak.htm
[iii]http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/01july15/national.htm#6
[iv]http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/jul/20inpak2.htm
[v]http://alhafeez.org/rashid/british-jewish/bjc_18.htm
[vi]http://alhafeez.org/rashid/british-jewish/bjc_8.htm
[vii]http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/01july15/national.htm#2
[viii]http://www.rediff.com/news/1999/oct/22us1.htm
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Old 11-12-2010, 07:58 AM   #13
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old thread but lets put some more information on this...

Genreal Tariq Majid Corps Commander Rawalpindi who oversaw the Lal Masjid/Hafsa Operation and then promoted to Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee

Admiral Noman Bashir succeeds him as Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee also a Qadiyani!

His best friend Rear Admiral Tanveer Faiz promoted to Commander of the Pakistan Navy fleet...also a Qadiyani!
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:40 PM   #14
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yep that explains his mass murdering of Muslims and betrayal. Traitorous scum.
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