[freevideom]

Does any of you think Saudi Arabia will ever be a not only a regional power but the most influential superpower in 20 years time?

What factors have hindered Saudi to become the most influential nation in the world....I mean in Africa, Asia, Europe, Latin America and Americas?

Influence I mean political, economic and cultural

Thoughts

[Loopyjr]

From the perspective of geo-politics SA is a dependent vassal state, it has a type of independent sovereignty in name only. This is historical because the tribe of Saud rebelled against the Ottomon (Uthmaniya) Khalif with the help of the British empire. After the demise of the British empire and the rise of America...they took over the role of ruling SA.

SA resources are sold in the paper dollar, they have no choice but to sell them for dollars if they ever changed they would lose their kingdom. So America get oil for free (printed dollars), and the dollar is heading towards its real value zero and still SA must sell their oil in it. The dollar is not really a fiat currency it is underpinned by oil. Israel is served by America so it has more chance of being a regional power. The jews have built themselves a getto state only for Jews.

[lerobudrse]

THIS IS FUNNY!! KSA being a superpower. Perhaps it has the power to be a super idiot but never a super power. There are tribal in their cultural orientation, economically tied to Dollar and its well being and politically has no power and religiously regressive. It is like saying some village idiot that they are leader of world.
Interally they have no institutions and the word professionalism does not exist. Just go to the border crossing and you will see what I mean.

[saerensenatljn]

Turkey is the only islamic state that has a potential to be called a Middle power state.
NATION POWER INDEX 2012

TOP 100 companies of the Muslim countries 2011

Military Ranking 2012


So, in no matter we could call KSA a Super Power.

JazakAllah Kher!

[Bill-Watson]

KSA can't become super power if they still not seriously developing engineering based technologies , and still importing most of the weaponry

well some how, learn from those Iranian in the term of self sustaining technologies program

and KSA have so much potential for it

[kHy87gPC]

Its better each Muslim country be super power or specialized in something they are good at and then share it among others to strengthen each other, rather than every one doing the same thing.

[Gosxjqum]

as an Ummah...

united we stand

divided we fall

its simple


the idiot Mussolini understood one thing

you can easily break a single stick (or individual or country)

but if that stick (or individual or country) is tightly bound together with other like-minded sticks

it is very, very difficult to break it.


Muslim political disunity = Muslim weakness

Muslim political unity = Muslim Superpower state InshaAllah

[ChebuRAtoR]

Saudi Arabia have a lot of good stregnths, more than people here would credit them for. However they alone cant become a superpower, nor should we want that. What we need an alliance of islamic nations that collectively form a superpower. something that functions along the lines of the EU/NATO inshAllah.

Saudi Arabia definitely could play a role in that and inshAllah they will. King Abdallah had wanted a Golf union and was very dissapointed withthe other golf nations and seems to have moved away from the GC idea to cooperate with other islamic powers like turkey and egypt. They have asked pakistan to sell them nukes btw.

I think Saudi could offer a lot in terms of petrochemical engineering, mining, telecommunications and other areas. but one nation cannot become a power in this age. To get to the position where we can even build our own fighter jets we would need to go through so many hoops. having civilian space programs would be an excellent start and i think having non military development is the way forward and we shouldnt start defense industries on a large scale until we have developed more. without manfufacturing technology, civilian aircraft, civil engineering etc we cannot hope to build state of the art weaponry that will serve any purpose. we do need to keep buying western technology for the moment unfortunately so that we can preserve our lands whilst we develop them inshallah.

the problem though, is that muslims lack patriorism for our nations. we complain and complain and hate on teh muslim governments. israelis love their nation and work hard for it. if we had that attitude and learned skills and tried to develop our lands we could be so much more inshallah. also salafis love saudi, sufis love turkey etc, which isnt helpful either. all muslims must love all free islamic nations as long as those nations are free to practice islam and are cooperating amongst themselves.

Any nation that isnt working with the rest of the muslim nations and that suppresses islam must be removed inshallah.

Its good to see turkey and saudi working together on freeing syria, im guessing they are hoping for a sunni nation to join their alliance once the fighting is over inshallah. also its good to see egypt meeting with saudi as their first official visit and saudi talking to pakistan about nukes.

i trust mursi and hope when he meets with various muslim rulers he will give them inspiring speeches about the need for unity and cooperation and have a big vision for muslim nations inshallah.

the problem is, it wont matter what saudi does, a lot of muslims will belittle it and attack them. Until we start supporting our lands more i think things wont change.

Imran khan look promising for pakistan, mursi for egypt, tunisia and turkey are ok, as are malaysia, indonesia and malaysia inshallah so if saudi cooperates and works with those nations inshallah we can acheieve something. cooperation on engineering takes time and first we need basic economic integration and also things like one electrical grid, one supertrain going to all muslim lands, a military alliance, a unified currency etc and slowly build up the unity and cooperation inshallah. even europe has only just started allocating various engineeering to various countries rather than repeating the same thing in each country.

we have a lot of graduates, what we lack is projects. so wealthy and well educated western muslims should start businesses in muslims lands working on engineering projects and hire local educated muslimsto get the ball rolling. thats what i plan to do inshallah. and ill work for any of the countries i listed as i seethem as being the countries with good hearts inshallah and a desire to serve the ummah (dispite being imperfect)

[Wckcvhsg]

as an Ummah...

united we stand

divided we fall

its simple


the idiot Mussolini understood one thing

you can easily break a single stick (or individual or country)

but if that stick (or individual or country) is tightly bound together with other like-minded sticks

it is very, very difficult to break it.


Muslim political disunity = Muslim weakness

Muslim political unity = Muslim Superpower state InshaAllah

what you said is true akhi. but would you implement this by supporting saudi? I have already implemented this idea by supporting islamic nations if they arent saudi but ive realised that saudi wont ever become sufi and sufis wont ever support saudi until it becomes sufi. so someone has to give way.

[Pippoles]

what you said is true akhi. but would you implement this by supporting saudi? I have already implemented this idea by supporting islamic nations if they arent saudi but ive realised that saudi wont ever become sufi and sufis wont ever support saudi until it becomes sufi. so someone has to give way.

maybe Sufis need to become Sufi in the way of Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) and Ibn Qayyim (ra) and Shah Ismail Shaheed (ra)

maybe Saudi needs to become Sufi in the way of Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) and Ibn Qayyim (ra) and Shah Ismail Shaheed (ra)



its words and outsides that separate not insides.

we need to learn how to move past these words and outsides to the real Sunnah and real Tazkiyyah an Nafs

then Islam becomes one - no classical, no salafi - just Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaat.

[blogforlovxr]

Saudi Arabia have a lot of good stregnths, more than people here would credit them for. However they alone cant become a superpower, nor should we want that. What we need an alliance of islamic nations that collectively form a superpower. something that functions along the lines of the EU/NATO inshAllah.

Saudi Arabia definitely could play a role in that and inshAllah they will. King Abdallah had wanted a Golf union and was very dissapointed withthe other golf nations and seems to have moved away from the GC idea to cooperate with other islamic powers like turkey and egypt. They have asked pakistan to sell them nukes btw.

I think Saudi could offer a lot in terms of petrochemical engineering, mining, telecommunications and other areas. but one nation cannot become a power in this age. To get to the position where we can even build our own fighter jets we would need to go through so many hoops. having civilian space programs would be an excellent start and i think having non military development is the way forward and we shouldnt start defense industries on a large scale until we have developed more. without manfufacturing technology, civilian aircraft, civil engineering etc we cannot hope to build state of the art weaponry that will serve any purpose. we do need to keep buying western technology for the moment unfortunately so that we can preserve our lands whilst we develop them inshallah.

the problem though, is that muslims lack patriorism for our nations. we complain and complain and hate on teh muslim governments. israelis love their nation and work hard for it. if we had that attitude and learned skills and tried to develop our lands we could be so much more inshallah. also salafis love saudi, sufis love turkey etc, which isnt helpful either. all muslims must love all free islamic nations as long as those nations are free to practice islam and are cooperating amongst themselves.

Any nation that isnt working with the rest of the muslim nations and that suppresses islam must be removed inshallah.

Its good to see turkey and saudi working together on freeing syria, im guessing they are hoping for a sunni nation to join their alliance once the fighting is over inshallah. also its good to see egypt meeting with saudi as their first official visit and saudi talking to pakistan about nukes.

i trust mursi and hope when he meets with various muslim rulers he will give them inspiring speeches about the need for unity and cooperation and have a big vision for muslim nations inshallah.

the problem is, it wont matter what saudi does, a lot of muslims will belittle it and attack them. Until we start supporting our lands more i think things wont change.

Imran khan look promising for pakistan, mursi for egypt, tunisia and turkey are ok, as are malaysia, indonesia and malaysia inshallah so if saudi cooperates and works with those nations inshallah we can acheieve something. cooperation on engineering takes time and first we need basic economic integration and also things like one electrical grid, one supertrain going to all muslim lands, a military alliance, a unified currency etc and slowly build up the unity and cooperation inshallah. even europe has only just started allocating various engineeering to various countries rather than repeating the same thing in each country.

we have a lot of graduates, what we lack is projects. so wealthy and well educated western muslims should start businesses in muslims lands working on engineering projects and hire local educated muslimsto get the ball rolling. thats what i plan to do inshallah. and ill work for any of the countries i listed as i seethem as being the countries with good hearts inshallah and a desire to serve the ummah (dispite being imperfect)

that makes a great deal of sense brother. I like it.

[97dYA9L3]

I think we need to ask ourselves what the meaning of success is. Most of us think if we set up a technological and scientific consumer producer society we are advanced....is this what the first Muslims, the aslaf thought?

Also we should know that Saudi wealth props up the western capitalist system...Saudi dollars buy corporations a large part of Barclays Bank for example is owned by Arabs. And multibillion dollar defence contracts help grease the wheels of Capitalism...why would these people create their own industries when they can buy a share in foreign ones?

[dfuzioniag]

Abu Zakir your post shows you know nothing of what the muslim countries are doing and also how hard it is to actually becoming an arms manufacturer. Many people here seem to approve of turkey, every wondered why turkey isnt gaining the sort of success we want from muslim lands in terms of becoming an unstoppable world power? Its not easy.

Saudi has made many developments towards the goal but you first need a solid electronics industry, manufacturing industry, automotive industry etc, you have to build up your capabilities in steps, you cant just throw money at people and think you will have saudi made space rockets, tanks, fighter jets and nuclear bombs, its not that simple. And in the meantime you need to be able to defend your land. So its unrealistic to expect muslim lands not to purchase some weapons. Getting ourselves to the point where we make our own requires people to actually work and get us there, and how many of us are actually striving in our fields in order to improve that? China and india became a power because individual companies decided to move to those countries. why dont we make businesses and then move them to muslim lands? People are all talk and no action, muslims are stupid currently and lack intelligence and planning.

And yes we have a great heritage of science and engineering, the prophet SAW used trench technology from the persians, muawiyyah RAA used naval technology, muslims were always preparing weaponry and stregnthening our armies and also developing our medicine, political system, architectural technology etc. So yes we should be preparing and strengthening and developing our lands inshallah. it requires muslims to get off their backsides and work though. If people love turkey so much, why havent they learned how to build fighter jets if its so easy and then go to turkey and work? We should all learn a field and then go to the muslim lands we're happy with and work there rather than sitting here in the west claiming benefits and moaning about every little thing we dont like in the muslims

If you dont like saudi, go to turkey, if you dont like turkey, go to egypt, but serve the ummah. and backbiting and knit picking on countries or groups you like doesnt count as serving the ummah, its actually counter productive, rather you should focus on being around and aiding those you do like and leave the other groups and nations to do their bit inshallah

[smokeberly]

I do not want to get into an argument with you. My view is different from yours. The technology developed and utilized by Muslims in the past was built organically with halal means, and they were human scale they did not require the full re-structuring of society to build them. Modern technologies do have a whole set of prior systems before the technology appears:

A strong powerful Central Government
A government fiat currency
The ability to tax all economic transactions and gather vast pools of money
Government Debt (where government borrow money and pay interest to the lenders)
A highly urbanized and industrialized society with vast cities
Powerful limited liability corporations and private equity firms firms who have contracts with Central Governments

A industrialized society is very different from a traditional pre-industrial society, people work all the time, they have little time for reflection, much of their money goes into paying taxes. Do Muslims want to live in these type of societies? There are hadiths that tell Muslims that there will be times when a Muslim will want to live in isolated mountains with some goats to safeguard their deen. For us to have similar societies we would have to dump the shariah and the mathabs....and some people have already done this. Saudi Royals prop up Riba Mega Banks in the West with their money....they keep the lifeblood of Capitalism flowing...they can buy shares and stocks in American and British Arms manufacturers...they can award them billion dollar contracts...and make profits.....why would they want to create a domestic firm? They dont.....they are happy profiting from foreign producers with their fiannce. Finance is very profitable, War is very profitable both are readily promoted in the Middle East in the last 20 years and in the foreseeable future.

[HaroTaure]

brother how do you plan to defend a country that doesnt have weaponry on par with the rest of the world? we will simply get invaded, our resources pillaged, and any unfavorable governments will be assassinated or removed, time and time again. why do you think america was never able to do this to russia?

we dont have to structure our whole society exactly like the west, we can be modern and islamic inshallah, we need intellectuals and academics with islamic intentions but experts in their fields to devise ways of having an islamic system in a modern context inshallah. we need islamic economists and scientists and engineers etc.

What field are you studying? If you want to help you need to make a plan and some goals on how you plan to contribute. dont be one of them many muslims who sit around criticising and saying how wrong everything is with no solutions and no plan to actually do anything yourself

[doolarsva]

America is five times more powerful than my country!