[sanddrareyk]

jihad is fard e ayn (for reference see sh. azzam's defense of muslim lands)

the following is imho the best way to discharge this obligation:
mullah dadullah (slain in 2007) was asked what message he would give to the Muslims?
he said:
- the Muslims must come to fight with the mujahideen.
- if they cannot then they should support them with their wealth.
- if thats not possible they should support them with their words
- and even if thats not possible then at least don't be hostile to the mujahideen and pledge allegiance to non-mulsims.

may Allah accept him as shaheed.

[Ygxejxox]

A few days ago I saw a news item in an Urdu paper quoting the statement of Jamiat-e-Ulema-e-Hind.

Upon this I found this statement here

On behalf of the Jamaat-E Islami Hind, Mr.Madni demanded United Nation Organisation to intervene for stopping massacre of ethnic minority and also called upon the Myanmar government through its Ambassador at New Delhi to put immediate end to all kinds of persecution of Rohingya people.


Mr.Madani further called upon the Myanmar government to give Rohingya Muslims back their citizenship, stop war mongering and hate campaigns of fanatic Buddhists against Rohingya. “Bring to book all the civilians, police and military personnel involved in criminal activities, allow media and aid agencies full and free access to the affected area and initiate reconciliation process to bring communal harmony,” he added.
Unconfirmed toll numbers to 28000 within a month. On June 10, state of emergency was declared in Rakhine, allowing military to participate in administration of the region. The Burmese army and police have been accused of targeting Rohingyas Muslims through mass arrests and arbitrary violence. Monks' organizations that played vital role in Burma's struggle for democracy have taken measures to block any humanitarian assistance to the Rohingya community. http://www.jamaateislamihind.org/ind...=57&pageid=941

[texbrease]

akhi I have already said that self defence using weapons is jihad. so if someone can defend the rohingya then this is good inshalah.

but i have no ability to do this but i do have the ability to do diplomatic pressure in my country inshallah and myanmar cares about what britain thinks.

Im not opposing mujahideen akhi I dont get involved because its a hot topic that can get you arrested

[hacyOrgachbic]

The problem with you or I trying to put diplomatic pressure on Myanmar through Britain is:

1. Cameron doesn't care what we think
2. Myanmar doesn't care what Britain thinks

As is evident by the fact that Britain criticises Myanmar left right and centre but they do not change their policies. So put as much 'diplomatic pressure' as you want but it won't stop the Muslims of Burma being massacred.

[Feflyinvelf]

ok just do nothing instead then

[neonasafluni]

those who wish to 'do nothing' may refer to post 21 on further guidelines to 'do nothing'

[Cofeeman]

Upon this I found this statement here
http://www.jamaateislamihind.org/ind...=57&pageid=941

Actually everyday Urdu newspapers carry statements by different Muslim organizations and prominent Muslims or intellectuals to the same effect. Hindi and English newspapers have a slightly different attitude so the coverage in them is not that much. Moreover there have been a series of communal riots in India itself in recent weeks which aggravates the situation further.

In my experience Muslims had never articulated their feelings this much in the past. Neither in case of foreign atrocities on Muslims nor in case of riots in India itself. Though in terms of actual physical effect on the ground it might not translate to much but the positive thing is that it is at least happening.

[Lydiaswingert]

Last time I checked, the Bangladeshi Governments were forcibly returning their fellow Muslims back to the Government Burma to be killed

Not a single demonstration in the streets of Dhaka from Muslims there demanding their Government stop this policy

so much so for Muslim Brotherhood in that area

[ziIReIGS]

I've read a wide number regarding the scale of the violence: 28,000 killed according to Jamaatul Islami Hindi, 4000 killed according to AKP tied TodaysZaman paper, western sources cite the Burma state media as reporting merely dozens- 50 to 80 being the report in June.

I recently read somewhere that Al Qa`ida sent 500 fighters to Burma to defends Muslims. Meanwhile, massive government militaries like Indonesia state they are "monitoring" reports on Myanmar.


Also, Western and kufr media are reporting that the Rohingya are foreigners to Burma, but this Muslim academian wrote an interesting article showing that the Rohingya are descendents of Muslim rule in Burma:


Yet, the long history of the Rohingya and the Rakhine state contradicts the government's claims. The medieval Kingdom of Arakan, encompassing the Muslim Rohingya, was once an enlightened centre of culture, knowledge and trade, displaying a harmonic blend of Buddhism and Islam in its administration and court life. The kingdom's cosmopolitan and international capital city, Mrauk U, was described in the 17th century as "a second Venice" by a Portuguese Jesuit priest and was often compared to Amsterdam and London by travellers and writers of the time.

It was the 1784 military conquest by Bodawpaya, the king of Burma (now Myanmar), that transformed this once vibrant kingdom into an oppressed peripheral region. After this, many haunting tales began to circulate of Burmese soldiers rounding up the Rohingya in bamboo enclosures to burn them alive, and marching thousands to the city of Amarapura to work, effectivley as slave labour, on infrastructure projects.

With the rise to power of the military junta in 1962 under General Ne Win, a policy of "Myanmarisation" was implemented as an ultra-nationalist ideology based on the racial purity of the Myanma ethnicity and its Buddhist faith. The Rohingya, as both Muslims and non-Myanma, were stripped of their legitimacy and officially declared foreigners in their own native land. With the passage of the junta's 1982 Citizenship Law, they effectively ceased to exist legally. http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opi...543198527.html

Here, we are talking about Darul Islam overrun by mushirks who centuries later are in the final throws- likely in anticipation of democratic reforms- of finally expelling Muslim descendents of Islamic rule.


And Indonesia's Marty is 'monitoring' things?

After surveying a few Malaysian english newspapers online, I'm getting the picture that Malaysia was coaxing Burma into business ties, as there appear to be growing business and remittance between the two. As a result, there is next to no comments or outrage over the Burmese treatment of Rohingya Muslims in Malay media.

[MediconStop]

they are not human, who kills children & babies without even feeling an atoms weight of remorse

[C7JjVczP]

Here are several articles by an Anglo journalist, Francis Wade, who has dared to write about Burmese ethnic cleansing and bigotry against Muslims in Burma.

http://asiancorrespondent.com/84146/...t-telling-you/


AQ seems to be doing the only reasonable action against a systematic military campaign. And the fact that Burmese monks are supporting ethnic cleansing of Muslims shows that this issue goes back to the original Islamic rule over the area under the Arakan kingdom.

[GlarlraTpople]

After surveying a few Malaysian english newspapers online, I'm getting the picture that Malaysia was coaxing Burma into business ties, as there appear to be growing business and remittance between the two. As a result, there is next to no comments or outrage over the Burmese treatment of Rohingya Muslims in Malay media.

it's been reported on a front page by a few Malay language online news site. One reporter actually sneaked into the Rohingya refugee camp for two hours (his safety was guaranteed only for two hours) to record the life of the Muslims there;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YXJO...hannel&list=UL

But I have to agree that it's not enough. The nationalists who are ruling the country tend to water down anything about Islam as they fear that the Islamists sentiment will spread wildly among the Muslim populations.

Still, regardless of what they do, we still should try to find a way to help our Muslim brothers and sisters around the world,

Allahu A'lam.

[Unlinozistimi]

they are not human, who kills children & babies without even feeling an atoms weight of remorse

would you say the same to Bangladesh who turned them back to their killers?

[Forex Autopilot]

Dhaka bans NGOs from helping Rohingya

[VovTortki]

Burma's monks call for Muslim community to be shunned

[Opening-auto]

it's been reported on a front page by a few Malay language online news site. One reporter actually sneaked into the Rohingya refugee camp for two hours (his safety was guaranteed only for two hours) to record the life of the Muslims there;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YXJO...hannel&list=UL

But I have to agree that it's not enough. The nationalists who are ruling the country tend to water down anything about Islam as they fear that the Islamists sentiment will spread wildly among the Muslim populations.

Still, regardless of what they do, we still should try to find a way to help our Muslim brothers and sisters around the world,

Allahu A'lam.

we must have one international organizations with refugee specialization, currently rohingnya refugee are helped by International Organisation on Migration

[weluvjessicaalba]

Bangladesh bans foreign charities helping Rohingya


DHAKA — Bangladesh has ordered three international charities to stop providing aid to Rohingya refugees who cross the border to flee persecution and violence in Myanmar, an official said Thursday.
France's Doctors without Borders (MSF) and Action Against Hunger (ACF) as well as Britain's Muslim Aid UK have been told to suspend their services in the Cox's Bazaar district bordering Myanmar, local administrator Joynul Bari said.

"The charities have been providing aid to tens of thousands of undocumented Rohingya refugees illegally. We asked them to stop all their projects in Cox's Bazaar following directive from the NGO Affairs Bureau," he told AFP.

Bari said the charities "were encouraging an influx of Rohingya refugees" from across the border in Myanmar's Rakhine state in the wake of recent sectarian violence that left at least 80 people killed.
The charities have provided healthcare, training, emergency food and drinking water to the refugees living in Cox's Bazaar since the early 1990s.

MSF runs a clinic near one of the Rohingya camp which provides services to 100,000 people.
Speaking a Bengali dialect similar to one in southeast Bangladesh, the Rohingyas are Muslims seen as illegal immigrants by the Buddhist-majority Myanmar government and many Burmese.

They are viewed by the United Nations as one of the world's most persecuted minorities.

Golam Sarwar, a senior official of Muslim Aid UK in Bangladesh, confirmed to AFP that his group had stopped its Rohingya project following the order.

The government says some 300,000 Rohingya Muslims are living in the country, the vast majority in Cox's Bazaar, after fleeing persecution in Myanmar. About 30,000 are registered refugees who live in two camps run by the United Nations.

In recent weeks, Bangladesh has turned away boats carrying hundreds of Rohingya fleeing the violence in Myanmar despite pressure from the United States and rights groups to grant them refuge.
Myanmar security forces opened fire on Rohingya Muslims, committed rape and stood by as rival mobs attacked each other during the recent wave of sectarian violence, New York-based Human Rights Watch said Wednesday.

The authorities failed to protect both Muslims and Buddhists and then "unleashed a campaign of violence and mass roundups against the Rohingya", the group said in a report. http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...6822b41294.791


secular govt in actions....

May Allah give Rohingya ppl patience and strength for these worldly matters

[casinobonusese]

Muslims are too busy killing and terrorizing other Muslims in Syria. No time to help the Muslims in Burma!

why would syrian muslims go and 'help' burmese when they are holed up in aleppo and bombarded with jet fighters?
this is a very poor way to talk about those poor people in syria.

[jacknates]

who said syrian muslims? and unfortunately it seems you have been exposed to western and Saudi/Gulf media. the opposite is happening, people are being killed by foreign terrorists and mercaneries.

i don't take my news just from media sir. i am following people in syria. right in the heart of it. your conspiracy theory has absolutely zero weight because the absurdity of the claim that 'foreign terrorists' are killing people. this is the propaganda of the syrian state and it is a buhtaan on those poor syrian muslims and the muslims from outside who are helping.

[seodiary]

Muslims are too busy killing and terrorizing other Muslims in Syria. No time to help the Muslims in Burma!

So what does Jamia Muslim in Bangladesh doing about this situation?

Nothing of course

they are nearby but Muslims in Bangladesh are now disgracing themselves re the situation of their brothers in nearby Burma