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Old 09-26-2011, 06:32 AM   #1
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Default Makkah for the rich: Islam's holiest site 'turning into Vegas'
Personally when I went there last year for Hajj I was disgusted with all the developments that I'm sure locals were not being consulted let alone other Muslims.

Nothing wrong with expansion but this obsession with erasing our history is just way too much. I saw that Umm Khadijah's house which they turned into a toilet in disgust.



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-2360114.html
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Old 09-26-2011, 07:42 PM   #2
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bump.............
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Old 09-27-2011, 05:03 AM   #3
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wahabi's on the firing line again

they should come out and address these issues

looks like people are not against expansion but their outlook on wiping out our history


reminds me of China's cultural revolution
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Old 09-27-2011, 12:17 PM   #4
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wahabi's on the firing line again

they should come out and address these issues

looks like people are not against expansion but their outlook on wiping out our history


reminds me of China's cultural revolution
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:08 PM   #5
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This destruction is due to extemist Wahabis and the arrogance of the Saudi rulers. How else can anybody justify the buidling of a toilet where Lady Khadija's house once stood. This disgusts everyone, whatever their aqeedah - Sufi, Salafi, Tablighi, etc.
Can you provide any authentic source which can pinpoint where the House of Khadija was situated? And No the Independent is not an authentic source

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Old 09-27-2011, 02:50 PM   #6
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Can you provide any authentic source which can pinpoint where the House of Khadija was situated? And No the Independent is not an authentic source

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You cant see it as it has been turned into a toilet by our wahabi brothers
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Old 09-27-2011, 06:56 PM   #7
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If muslims were joined together then this would never have happened.

But nay Britannia has used her tactic, divide and conquer.

If we are to have our blessed identity back and most importantly allahs help we must remove this evil from our hearts.

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Old 09-27-2011, 07:10 PM   #8
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Now they are moving in to Saudi. They will use the anti-saudi sentiments to create a hatred against them so that when they land there, all the other muslims say GREAT! Now we'll get RID OF THE SALAFIS.

The sad part is that those who shout so much for not destroying the historical sites, most of the time they don't even follow their deen properly!
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Old 09-27-2011, 07:48 PM   #9
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Now they are moving in to Saudi. They will use the anti-saudi sentiments to create a hatred against them so that when they land there, all the other muslims say GREAT! Now we'll get RID OF THE SALAFIS.

The sad part is that those who shout so much for not destroying the historical sites, most of the time they don't even follow their deen properly!


come on Maulana, that is a cheap shot. Lots of people don't follow their deen properly,unless you mean following the deen to mean topi,jubba,beard.........
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Old 09-27-2011, 08:02 PM   #10
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come on Maulana, that is a cheap shot. Lots of people don't follow their deen properly,unless you mean following the deen to mean topi,jubba,beard.........


I mean following all the Sunnats, whether its Imamah or Ta'addud.

Why make a fuss about demolishing of historical sites when you (generally) YOURSELF DEMOLISH THE SUNNAH DAILY IN THE BATHROOM INFRONT OF THE MIRROR.

(Refering to beard as Sunnah because every action Rasool Allah did is a Sunnah. Beard is wajib)
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Old 09-27-2011, 08:31 PM   #11
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And people are surprised this is happening in KSA?
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Old 09-27-2011, 08:59 PM   #12
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I think we can expect expansions etc. No city stays the same forever. Not that I am condoning building toilets where our beloved Mother lived.

I think Ml Taliban's last post made a good point. Be as passionate about everything connected to Rasulullah .
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:06 PM   #13
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Personally when I went there last year for Hajj I was disgusted with all the developments that I'm sure locals were not being consulted let alone other Muslims.

Nothing wrong with expansion but this obsession with erasing our history is just way too much. I saw that Umm Khadijah's house which they turned into a toilet in disgust.
What is the proof that the house of Sayyida Khadija was there? Do you have any independent sources stating such?
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:56 PM   #14
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I mean following all the Sunnats, whether its Imamah or Ta'addud.

Why make a fuss about demolishing of historical sites when you (generally) YOURSELF DEMOLISH THE SUNNAH DAILY IN THE BATHROOM INFRONT OF THE MIRROR.

(Refering to beard as Sunnah because every action Rasool Allah did is a Sunnah. Beard is wajib)


I certainly understand your sentiments are frustration but its never as simple as that. Im sure you know the story of the person who once picked up a peice of paper which had the name of Allah on it from the floor and gave it such respect etc. Through that amal, Allah changed his life and he became a walli of Allah.
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:14 PM   #15
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I certainly understand your sentiments are frustration but its never as simple as that. Im sure you know the story of the person who once picked up a peice of paper which had the name of Allah on it from the floor and gave it such respect etc. Through that amal, Allah changed his life and he became a walli of Allah.


Insulting others doesn't mean you are respecting it.

Where does all the respect go in other things? The only respect comes when you are having fun in insulting and cursing Saudi govt

Why does this love start taking effect only when the Saudi Govt is doing extensions?

Why don't we see the same people becoming SAD when they see muslims being Killed all over the world!
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:23 PM   #16
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I think we can expect expansions etc. No city stays the same forever. Not that I am condoning building toilets where our beloved Mother lived.

I think Ml Taliban's last post made a good point. Be as passionate about everything connected to Rasulullah .
Bismillah
Actually i read somewhere before that it is a false news that the grave of our beloved mother Khadija RA was turned into toilet.
Sometimes people spread false news out of blind hatred without even verifying properly but Allahu alam as far as the news is concerned.
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:31 PM   #17
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Bismillah
Actually i read somewhere before that it is a false news that the grave of our beloved mother Khadija RA was turned into toilet.
Sometimes people spread false news out of blind hatred without even verifying properly but Allahu alam as far as the news is concerned.
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:39 PM   #18
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Salaam's.

Wrong is wrong no matter who is doing it or who is responsible.

In the u.k. many buildings over a 100 years , are protected and preserved. So that future generations feel connected with their history.

Whilst we allegedly and I say allegedly have wanton destruction taking place in Makah and Medinah.

so the building and promotion of mcdonalds and kfc in makkah is fine but preserving islamic history is shirk.
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:52 PM   #19
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Wrong is wrong ofcourse but this Wrong should be proven from Shariat and yes then we can discuss it.

No one ever said it's Shirk! Now this is extremism to blame someone for something they've not even done!

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Old 09-27-2011, 10:52 PM   #20
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its funny taht people attack saudi so much. More threads about saudi than the rest of the muslim countires combined. Do you all hate saudi more than the likes of assad, the corrupt rulers in places like krgystan and tajikstan, the likes of the shia in iran, and teh list goes on. I believe there is a very good reason why people attack saudi more than countries where your young girls cannot even wear the hijab in schools and you cannot even pray the fajr prayer. People here are so blinded by their hatred for "wahhabis" that it supercedes anything else.

Do you all really believe that saudi is worse than the other muslim lands? Out of uniterest, where do you believe saudi is in the league table of muslim lands? Anyone who says its less than the top 10 is out of your minds, there is no country more islamic than saudi that I have seen and if they do exist then they are very few in number. Such injustice
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