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Old 08-03-2012, 07:44 PM   #1
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Default Is this a bad question or not.i dont know.but i love prophet muhammad's s.a.w family.
Sorry for asking this question.
Rasulallah s.a.w tried to make his Uncle Abu Talib ibn 'Abd al-Muttalib Muslim.
Is it bad doing dua for Abu Talib ibn 'Abd al-Muttalib ?
like begging heaven for him?

If this is bad question.Beg you pardon.Oustagifirallah.
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:35 PM   #2
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This might be helpful to understand.

ABU TALIB'S DEATH:
In Rajab, the tenth year of the Prophethood, Abu Talib fell ill and passed away, six months after leaving the confinement at Ash-Sh‘ib. In another version, Abu Talib breathed his last in Ramadan, three days prior to the death of Khadijah (May Allah be pleased with her). On the authority of Al-Musaiyab, when Abu Talib was on the death bed, the Prophet (Peace be upon him) entered the room where he saw Abu Jahl and ‘Abdullah bin Abi Omaiyah. He requested his uncle:
“My uncle, you just make a profession that there is no true god but Allâh, and I will bear testimony before Allâh (of your being a believer)”.

Abu Jahl and ‘Abdullah bin Abi Omaiyah addressing him said: “Abu Talib, would you abandon the religion of ‘Abdul-Muttalib?” The Messenger of Allâh (Peace be upon him) constantly requested him (to accept his offer), and (on the other hand) was repeated the same statement (of Abu Jahl and ‘Abdullah bin Abi Omaiyah) — till Abu Talib gave his final decision and he stuck to the religion of ‘Abdul-Muttalib and refused to profess that there is no true god but Allâh. Upon this the Messenger of Allâh (Peace be upon him) remarked:

“By Allâh, I will persistently beg pardon for you till I am forbidden to do so (by Allâh)”.

It was then that Allâh, the Magnificent and Glorious revealed this verse:

“It is not (proper) for the Prophet and those who believe to ask Allâh’s forgiveness for the Mushrikűn (polytheists, idolaters, pagans, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh) even though they be of kin, after it has become clear to them that they are the dwellers of the Fire (because they died in a state of disbelief).” [9:113]

And it was said to the Messenger of Allâh (Peace be upon him):

“Verily! You [O Muhammad (Peace be upon him) ] guide not whom you like.” [28:56]

It goes without saying that Abu Talib was very much attached to Muhammad (Peace be upon him) . For forty years, Abu Talib had been the faithful friend — the prop of his childhood, the guardian of his youth and in later life a very tower of defence. The sacrifices to which Abu Talib exposed himself and his family for the sake of his nephew, while yet incredulous of his mission, stamp his character as singularly noble and unselfish. The Prophet (Peace be upon him) did his best to persuade his octogenarian uncle to make profession of the true faith, but he remained obdurate and stuck to the paganism of his forefathers, and thus could not achieve complete success.

Al-‘Abbas bin ‘Abdul-Muttalib
narrated that he said to the Prophet (Peace be upon him) “You have not been of any avail to your uncle (Abu Talib) (though) by Allâh, he used to protect you and get angry on your behalf.” The Prophet (Peace be upon him) said: “He is in a shallow fire, and had it not been for me, he would have been at the bottom of the (Hell) Fire.”

Abu Sa‘id Al-Khudri narrated that he heard the Prophet (Peace be upon him) say, when the mention of his uncle was made, “I hope that my intercession may avail him, and he be placed in a shallow fire that rises up only to his heels.”

- Ar-Raheeq al Makhtum (The sealed nectar)
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:47 PM   #3
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Abu Talib was the father of Ali (Ra)?
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:48 PM   #4
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Abu Talib was the father of Ali (Ra)?
Yes
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:49 PM   #5
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Abu Talib was the father of Ali (Ra)?
yes!
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Old 08-03-2012, 10:47 PM   #6
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This might be helpful to understand.

ABU TALIB'S DEATH:
In Rajab, the tenth year of the Prophethood, Abu Talib fell ill and passed away, six months after leaving the confinement at Ash-Sh‘ib. In another version, Abu Talib breathed his last in Ramadan, three days prior to the death of Khadijah (May Allah be pleased with her). On the authority of Al-Musaiyab, when Abu Talib was on the death bed, the Prophet (Peace be upon him) entered the room where he saw Abu Jahl and ‘Abdullah bin Abi Omaiyah. He requested his uncle:
“My uncle, you just make a profession that there is no true god but Allâh, and I will bear testimony before Allâh (of your being a believer)”.

Abu Jahl and ‘Abdullah bin Abi Omaiyah addressing him said: “Abu Talib, would you abandon the religion of ‘Abdul-Muttalib?” The Messenger of Allâh (Peace be upon him) constantly requested him (to accept his offer), and (on the other hand) was repeated the same statement (of Abu Jahl and ‘Abdullah bin Abi Omaiyah) — till Abu Talib gave his final decision and he stuck to the religion of ‘Abdul-Muttalib and refused to profess that there is no true god but Allâh. Upon this the Messenger of Allâh (Peace be upon him) remarked:

“By Allâh, I will persistently beg pardon for you till I am forbidden to do so (by Allâh)”.

It was then that Allâh, the Magnificent and Glorious revealed this verse:

“It is not (proper) for the Prophet and those who believe to ask Allâh’s forgiveness for the Mushrikűn (polytheists, idolaters, pagans, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh) even though they be of kin, after it has become clear to them that they are the dwellers of the Fire (because they died in a state of disbelief).” [9:113]

And it was said to the Messenger of Allâh (Peace be upon him):

“Verily! You [O Muhammad (Peace be upon him) ] guide not whom you like.” [28:56]

It goes without saying that Abu Talib was very much attached to Muhammad (Peace be upon him) . For forty years, Abu Talib had been the faithful friend — the prop of his childhood, the guardian of his youth and in later life a very tower of defence. The sacrifices to which Abu Talib exposed himself and his family for the sake of his nephew, while yet incredulous of his mission, stamp his character as singularly noble and unselfish. The Prophet (Peace be upon him) did his best to persuade his octogenarian uncle to make profession of the true faith, but he remained obdurate and stuck to the paganism of his forefathers, and thus could not achieve complete success.

Al-‘Abbas bin ‘Abdul-Muttalib
narrated that he said to the Prophet (Peace be upon him) “You have not been of any avail to your uncle (Abu Talib) (though) by Allâh, he used to protect you and get angry on your behalf.” The Prophet (Peace be upon him) said: “He is in a shallow fire, and had it not been for me, he would have been at the bottom of the (Hell) Fire.”

Abu Sa‘id Al-Khudri narrated that he heard the Prophet (Peace be upon him) say, when the mention of his uncle was made, “I hope that my intercession may avail him, and he be placed in a shallow fire that rises up only to his heels.”

- Ar-Raheeq al Makhtum (The sealed nectar)
yes or no???? can i dua for him?
yes or no?
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:04 PM   #7
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yes or no???? can i dua for him?
yes or no?


No, you cannot make dua for anyone who did not die as a Muslim. If you make dua for a living non Muslim, it must be a dua for his guidance

And Allah knows best

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Old 08-03-2012, 11:24 PM   #8
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No, you cannot make dua for anyone who did not die as a Muslim. If you make dua for a living non Muslim, it must be a dua for his guidance

And Allah knows best

jazakallahu khairan....
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