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08-26-2010, 07:19 AM | #1 |
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In otherwords, Grand Mufti is Re writing the sharia !
No one can make Haram what Allah made Halal... The number of Emiratis marrying foreigners has risen by 10 per cent in the last four years, according to recent figures.Officials and religious leaders blame the rising costs of dowries and extravagant wedding ceremonies and parties for encouraging “ordinary” local men to seek foreign wives, who cost less to marry. Dr Ahmad al-Haddad, Dubai's Grand Mufti, the country's most senior Islamic scholar, wants to restrict foreign marriages to allow only Muslim, Arab spouses, and a maximum age difference of 25 years. For men, it would have to be his first and only wife. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/ |
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08-26-2010, 09:17 AM | #2 |
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08-26-2010, 12:58 PM | #3 |
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I support this and long over due. Something similar has to be done in UK! It is not about nationalism but need to address a growing problem!! whatever for???? no offence to those from these countries but the dollied up ones look like drag artists ( and that's me being kind) |
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08-26-2010, 01:13 PM | #4 |
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I support this and long over due. Something similar has to be done in UK! It is not about nationalism but need to address a growing problem!! |
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08-26-2010, 03:24 PM | #5 |
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ALL they need to do is lower the mahr. these Bedouins ask way too much & now their daughter cant get married. they need a social change. it is the same in South Africa with the african triditional religion. they ask for cows & we talking like 5,10,20 cows. whatever the girl is worth. as a result men move tio the city, find a girlfriend & live with her, make babies & act as if they married. some africans have become clever & give one cow as a down payment & makes a promise to pay off his debt in a few years & then he could marry the girl as normal.
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08-26-2010, 03:50 PM | #6 |
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What do you mean that polygamy should not be allowed due to pervs??? I mean if there are 30000 non-married ladies what do you expect...I'm all for polygamy. Yes polygamy should not be abused but most of the men in the UAE are wealthy and can easily support more than 1 wife. Yes, in the UK there is an issue but then what would happen with all those divorced sisters who no-one wants to marry. Yes the harms of marrying non-muslims are very great. I mean if one looks at the children of such people then they turn out very messed up. But some arab men are very fascinated by white ladies for some reason. They worship everything white and hate everything indian/asian. Anyway these are the many social problems prevailent in the UAE. I mean there is also the issue of nannies. Non-muslim nannies looking after children. So whilst the mother goes shopping and shops till she drops (crazy consumerism) the child is looked after by the christian philipano Nanny. So instead of getting motherly love the child gets the tarbiyah done by the philipino christians (no disrespect intended towards christians of the phillipnes)...This is another reason for fasaad in the land. I mean instead of barking about salafis, sufis etc these are the social problems that need to get tackled. I mean the labourers get paid peaunuts and are forced to work in very bad conditions.
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08-26-2010, 06:22 PM | #7 |
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I support this and long over due. Something similar has to be done in UK! It is not about nationalism but need to address a growing problem!! Your comparison is incorrect. In UK it means that a person who has born and raised here goes and gets married to a person born and raised in a different culture which may be an issue of compatibility. In UAE or SAUDIA it often means a UAE person cannot get married to another person resident in UAE or Saudia, simply due to passport issues. Furthermore what is this restriction of “Muslim & Arab”? And age restrictions and first wife business? Surely that’s meddling into affairs which the Shariah has permitted. The solution (as Mufti Taqi Usmani) has recommended is to put safe guards in place to ensure that the rights of women are not abused and NOT to change the Shariah. A person can easily do Nikah (without civil marriage) and live life so this will just drive issues underground. In both UAE & Saudia a person can get Nikah done “unofficially” and as long as the relevant witnesses are present it cannot be regarded as breaking the law. |
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08-26-2010, 11:55 PM | #9 |
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How about the Mufti advocate or initiate a massive campaign decrying the practice of asking for huge dowries as well as highlighting the dangers of marrying a non-Muslim spouse?
Even so though I can still see it not solving the problem completely. It is 100% true that many men from Dubai do prefer to marry "light-skinned" women, Muslim or not. This is why you see, as one poster mentioned, a lot of them prefering to marry Lebanese and Syrian women (if they marry a Muslim at all). The sisters in Dubai will continue to suffer so long as this obsession with light skin, which is present in much of the Muslim world, continues to exist. |
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08-27-2010, 12:02 AM | #10 |
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08-27-2010, 03:08 AM | #11 |
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Dubai (Las Vegas)! what about the ''Salafi'' Kingdom Saudi Arabia i read that Saudi Women arent allowed to marry Non Saudi men!. Its a thorny issue and most wouldnt want to touch it Its not even about Arab women from Saudi Arabia or UAE marrying non Muslims, its about Arab women not allowed to marry anyone who isnt from those countries. I take it they would rather see her non practicing Emarati than a practising from lets say....Pakistan or Tanzania. In otherwords, race and nationalism comes first then Islam second, unless they are protesting Zionism and Israeli agression...well we all become brothers and sisters all of a sudden! I'm not sure if Iranians have issues like what we currently see in Arab world |
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08-27-2010, 03:20 AM | #12 |
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I was in Saudi when this issue was brought up in the local newspapers and the problem that they are having in Saudi is saudi men marrying foreign women, which is making it more difficult for Saudi women to find husbands, on the other side of the coin, the Kingdom is relaxing laws on allowing saudi women to marry expatriates and foreigners though it is barred for any royal family and those who are in the military or government. The Kingdom is careful about protecting its sovereignity and I suppose we cant blame them for that as Alhamdulillah they are taking good care of the Haramain and the Hujjaaj, but really the problem can only be solved if they allow marriages to take place freely for both men and women in Saudi.
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08-27-2010, 04:00 AM | #13 |
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I support this and long over due. Something similar has to be done in UK! It is not about nationalism but need to address a growing problem!! |
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08-27-2010, 04:35 AM | #14 |
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If the sisters in the UAE want to get married, they need to not ask for so much as dowry - its simple capatalism - they charge an exraordinary large amount for the same prodduct offered by foreign sisters - if they wisash to compete with foreign sisters, lower their prices. |
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08-27-2010, 04:37 AM | #15 |
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I was in Saudi when this issue was brought up in the local newspapers and the problem that they are having in Saudi is saudi men marrying foreign women, which is making it more difficult for Saudi women to find husbands, on the other side of the coin, the Kingdom is relaxing laws on allowing saudi women to marry expatriates and foreigners though it is barred for any royal family and those who are in the military or government. The Kingdom is careful about protecting its sovereignity and I suppose we cant blame them for that as Alhamdulillah they are taking good care of the Haramain and the Hujjaaj, but really the problem can only be solved if they allow marriages to take place freely for both men and women in Saudi. |
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08-27-2010, 05:27 AM | #16 |
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Arab Muslims racism perhaps? |
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08-27-2010, 08:30 PM | #17 |
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Have you checked the going rate of Mahr in UK!! |
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08-27-2010, 11:10 PM | #18 |
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Regarding the polygamy issue; if men are abusing this, then all that shows is that we need Sharia courts to protect the women. Regarding mahr; as far as I'm aware, while it is the right of women to ask for any amount of mahr they want, it's sometimes the family's of these women demanding the extravagant amounts. Maybe the money doesn't even end up with the girl. Is that how it works down there? |
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08-27-2010, 11:59 PM | #19 |
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Have you checked the going rate of Mahr in UK!! Salafis are creating their own form of Mutah! |
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08-28-2010, 12:08 AM | #20 |
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Dude, what's with the extreme bias against Salafi's? Regarding your claim, I haven't seen this myself personally- can you back up your claim or at least elaborate a bit further? What about the non Salafies that get their girlfriends to 'convert' due to family pressuring them to get married or whatever? Sometimes these marriages end in divorce, sometimes they don't. This is probably a bigger problem in the UK than your claim of Salafi's taking advantage of our revert sisters |
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