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Old 05-07-2012, 10:31 PM   #1
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We shall focus on Signs of Allah (SWT) in the modern scientific realm but Qur'anic examples too are welcome.

You first. (Imported from Lucknow.)
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:35 PM   #2
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:38 PM   #3
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I think we should say "God proves science", not the contrary.-Anonymous
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:10 PM   #4
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I remember reading about a Archer fish, this Archer fish has an amazing way of feeding insects.
  • It has ability to look insects above water level ( insects on leaves overlooking water, flying insects etc)

  • It spits water exactly on insect (Its not easy task, you can practically try similar test to throw a marble in to ring placed in water )

  • When water strikes insect it drowns in water, Archer fish grabs it with in milli seconds


This is amazing way how Allah SWT taught this fish to feed insects. Allah is Razzak (provider)

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Old 06-13-2012, 08:22 PM   #5
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God proves science.
Though He (SWT) did not have to for He (SWT) created it.
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:07 PM   #6
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Here's a book on modern science and Islam by Shaykh Zulfiqar db I scanned long ago.
I'll never scan books again (which are still in print).

Modern Science & Islam by Maulana Zulfiqar Saheb db

Please buy the hardcover if you like it.
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:54 AM   #7
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The human being is the greatest sign, our bodies, our minds, our emotions, even our disobedience and blindness.

Are human beings tiny little bodies living on a planet in a universe without a centre and with an empty vast space? Or are we the most important creature, created by Allah swt to look at the signs inside and outside, to see notice that everything is connected by Tawheed, the Oneness of Allah swt, reflecting the Names and Attributes of Allah swt. Creation is a mirror, it reflects the Qualities of the Creator, the Guide and the Mis-guider, the Punisher and the Forgiver, the Raiser and the Lower er.
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Old 06-14-2012, 08:19 AM   #8
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Here's a book on modern science and Islam by Shaykh Zulfiqar db I scanned long ago.
I'll never scan books again (which are still in print).

Modern Science & Islam by Maulana Zulfiqar Saheb db

Please buy the hardcover if you like it.
My Masjid's library has a copy of Qur'anic Sciences by Afzalur Rahman. It's out of print now. The website seerah.org says that eventually they'll put into PDFs the books of Afzalur Rahman (that are out of print), but it has been more than a year since their last update on anything.

I'm just wondering though, how do you scan books exactly, without ruining their condition? And secondly, if I took the time to scan this book for the benefit of others in the internet, do you think it would be okay though the members at seerah.org wanted to take the liberty of?

Jazakallah khair.
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:36 AM   #9
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Sometimes Allah changes the properties of material, water on cooling behaves in strange fashion unlike any other liquids. This is well known as anamolus expansion of water, this anamoly mainly helps survival of aquatic life in cold countries where temperatures fall below 0 from ponds, lakes and oceans freezing out.

During winter in cold countries, the temperature falls below 0oC. Water in lakes, seas or rivers will be frozen. Let us see how this happens.

The water at the surface, in contact with the cold atmosphere, loses heat and its temperature decreases. It becomes denser, sinks and is replaced by less dense water from the bottom. This process repeats itself so that the overall temperature of the water decreases.

Had water been like any other liquid, the whole depth of the water would have been frozen and aquatic life would have been destroyed completely.

Thanks to the anomalous expansion of water, when the temperature reaches 4oC, the water remains at the surface of the lake,sea or river. This is because as temperature decreases from 4oC to 0oC, water expands. The water is still less dense and thus remains at the surface. Only a small layer of water at the surface thus becomes frozen. Ice itself is less dense than water.

This is one of the miracles of nature. Personally, I think it is God's work, to prevent aquatic life from being destroyed. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_t...ater_expansion
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:46 AM   #10
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The human being is the greatest sign, our bodies, our minds, our emotions, even our disobedience and blindness.

Are human beings tiny little bodies living on a planet in a universe without a centre and with an empty vast space? Or are we the most important creature, created by Allah swt to look at the signs inside and outside, to see notice that everything is connected by Tawheed, the Oneness of Allah swt, reflecting the Names and Attributes of Allah swt. Creation is a mirror, it reflects the Qualities of the Creator, the Guide and the Mis-guider, the Punisher and the Forgiver, the Raiser and the Lower er.
You are on the dot akhi.
Now try to expound on the individual examples.
Basically the intention is to talk about scientific things so much from the Islamic point of view that it becomes our second nature. After that, Lord willing, our mind will not automatically switch to Evolution explanation at those moments when we see an important scientific phenomena.

I suppose Dr Amr will also now understand my point of view. In summary I am not looking for justification of Islam or justification for Allah (SWT), na-'aoodhubillah, in science. The deal here is to look at Allah (SWT)'s created science as a believer should look at it. Whether we accept it or not too many of us look at Allah (SWT)'s creation, I mean science, from modern atheistic materialistic glasses. We have to come out of it. And you do not come out of it without effort. One has to make effort to come out of that mindset. Nothing happens on its own.

And the ability/capability/opportunity (tafeeq) is from Allah (SWT) only.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:00 PM   #11
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The salty and sweet water separated by an invisible barrier.

Merging of Oceans
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:08 PM   #12
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I suppose Dr Amr will also now understand my point of view. In summary I am not looking for justification of Islam or justification for Allah (SWT), na-'aoodhubillah, in science. The deal here is to look at Allah (SWT)'s created science as a believer should look at it. Whether we accept it or not too many of us look at Allah (SWT)'s creation, I mean science, from modern atheistic materialistic glasses. We have to come out of it. And you do not come out of it without effort. One has to make effort to come out of that mindset. Nothing happens on its own.


Bhai I m not against us looking around and admiring the creations of Allah Ta'ala. What concerns me is rectification of the verses of Quran and Hadith with science. Which is completely unnecessary. For example, if there is a new scientific discovery, suddenly people use it to 'prove' a verse of the Quran. Which is dumb in two ways. First Quran doesn't need proving, second the new scientific discovery most probably will be disproved a few decades later.

What we can do or we should do is what you mentioned in the topic heading than the OP. Discuss the signs of Allah. Just like our brother mansoor mentioned in post #4. Thats more like it.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:40 PM   #13
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Allah has absolute control, Allah decides how long and curved our hair should be. Imagine hair on eyelids. if they are so long they are no good and if they are curved the other way they stick to our eyes.
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:06 PM   #14
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Bhai I m not against us looking around and admiring the creations of Allah Ta'ala. What concerns me is rectification of the verses of Quran and Hadith with science. Which is completely unnecessary. For example, if there is a new scientific discovery, suddenly people use it to 'prove' a verse of the Quran. Which is dumb in two ways. First Quran doesn't need proving, second the new scientific discovery most probably will be disproved a few decades later.

What we can do or we should do is what you mentioned in the topic heading than the OP. Discuss the signs of Allah. Just like our brother mansoor mentioned in post #4. Thats more like it.
What brother Mansoor did is precisely what I have in my mind, in the title as well as the OP. I know I am not communicating well but I am trying!
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:26 PM   #15
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Our hair Allah created dispenses heat, protect from sun light. Why would Allah grow hair in nose, we know our lungs cannot accept dust from air we breathe. Any dust will be repelled strongly by a sneeze. Acchoooo ... Totally dust proof design yet simple. Natural as we speak but that is qudrat
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:35 PM   #16
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What brother Mansoor did is precisely what I have in my mind, in the title as well as the OP. I know I am not communicating well but I am trying!
Lolz ok.

Our hair Allah created dispenses heat, protect from sun light. Why would Allah grow hair in nose, we know our lungs cannot accept dust from air we breathe. Any dust will be repelled strongly by a sneeze. Acchoooo ... Totally dust proof design yet simple. Natural as we speak but that is qudrat The immune system of our body is another miracle of Allah the Almighty.
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:51 PM   #17
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Innaa fee khalqis samaawaati wa Ardhi wakh tilaa fil lailee wan nahaari la.aayaatil li oulil albaab(Al-Quran)

Behold! In the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and day, there are indeed Signs for men of understanding(Al-Quran)


we look at His creations, for the creation reminds one of the Creator. The verses of Aal-e-Imran quoted above mention this, as do numerous other verses throughout the Qur'an. The more we look at the grand design of the universe, the more we are reminded of the Designer. How many forces must come together with perfect coordination before a seed can sprout? What keeps this immensely complex and constantly expanding universe work so flawlessly? From the simplest to the most complex things there are pointers to the Creator on every square inch of this universe. In fact the Arabic word for the universe (alam) comes from the root ilm or knowledge, because this universe is the means of knowing the Creator. Taken from this link which is a must read article.

http://www.albalagh.net/food_for_thought/zikr.shtml
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:59 PM   #18
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Our skin has hundreds of thousands of sweat pores, they have sensors that sense surrounding temperature. If it is so hot it spills sweat thus cooling body. This is perfect example for cooling by evapouration, you might have observed in India we use clay containers in summer wrapped by wet cloth to cool water. Our sweat exactly does the same. If the sweat pore sensors sense too cold surrounding temperature the tissues themselves shrink to prevent heat loss, just like we wrap up when so cold. Shivering when so cold is something we did not learn, it is automatically fed in our brain we do it by impulse. Shivering creates heat in body when muscles are rubbed against each other.

Allah has embedded thermal system in us which consists of skin (Surface), sweat pores (sensors), blood (coolant), brain (in built memory space)
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Old 06-14-2012, 02:36 PM   #19
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Our skin has hundreds of thousands of sweat pores, they have sensors that sense surrounding temperature. If it is so hot it spills sweat thus cooling body. This is perfect example for cooling by evapouration, you might have observed in India we use clay containers in summer wrapped by wet cloth to cool water. Our sweat exactly does the same. If the sweat pore sensors sense too cold surrounding temperature the tissues themselves shrink to prevent heat loss, just like we wrap up when so cold. Shivering when so cold is something we did not learn, it is automatically fed in our brain we do it by impulse. Shivering creates heat in body when muscles are rubbed against each other.

Allah has embedded thermal system in us which consists of skin (Surface), sweat pores (sensors), blood (coolant), brain (in built memory space)

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Old 06-14-2012, 04:10 PM   #20
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Assalamu alaykum

Here is sunrise sunset times of New Delhi, India


14/6/1812 5:22 19:19.5
14/6/1912 5:22 19:20
14/6/2012 5:22 19:20

14/6/2112 ?????? Any doubt:

don't worry Allah SWT (badiassamawathi wal ardh ) is holding it.

Earth parameters:


Mass (1024 kg) 5.9736
Volume (1010 km3) 108.321
Equatorial radius (km) 6378.1

Mean orbital velocity (km/s) 29.78
Max. orbital velocity (km/s) 30.29
Min. orbital velocity (km/s) 29.29
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