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**TSVIDeo** · 07-29-2012, 10:23 AM

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible...7&t=KJV#vrsn/7

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. [1 John 5:7, KJV]

The most clear-cut, explicit statement on the Trinity [engine] in the Bible / Christianity [car] is this, and all modern translations do not have it because it's a fabrication. See the link. Does it make sense that in the more accurate translations the verse on the Trinity is removed, if the Trinity is really true? Think!

Ironically, the "opponent's" book, the Qur'an has the word "Trinity" in it, yet the Bible has no mention of the word "Trinity"!

Qur'an 4:171. O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.

Qur'an 5:73. They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them

Summary:

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. [John 17:3].

It's now time for you to revert to Islam and believe in "thee (singular) the only true God and Jesus Christ whom though has sent"; one who is sent is a Messenger and nothing more. Any belief contrary to John 17:3 is eternal death (hell fire) - e.g. a Trinity and we know 1 John 5:7 is a fabrication.

**9V4i8xw1** · 07-29-2012, 11:13 AM

Excellent work and explanation sister.

**Mappaindy** · 07-29-2012, 04:55 PM

http://www.halaltube.com/jesus-chris...y-and-in-islam

See "classic" Shaykh Ahmed Deedat in action at 37:23 on this very point.

And http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlA22NNFlDw

3:12:05 with his debate with Jimmy Swaggart.

07-29-2012, 10:23 AM	#1
TSVIDeo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 416 Senior Member	Trinitarians - you can't drive your car without its engine can you? http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible...7&t=KJV#vrsn/7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. [1 John 5:7, KJV] The most clear-cut, explicit statement on the Trinity [engine] in the Bible / Christianity [car] is this, and all modern translations do not have it because it's a fabrication. See the link. Does it make sense that in the more accurate translations the verse on the Trinity is removed, if the Trinity is really true? Think! Ironically, the "opponent's" book, the Qur'an has the word "Trinity" in it, yet the Bible has no mention of the word "Trinity"! Qur'an 4:171. O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. Qur'an 5:73. They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them Summary: And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. [John 17:3]. It's now time for you to revert to Islam and believe in "thee (singular) the only true God and Jesus Christ whom though has sent"; one who is sent is a Messenger and nothing more. Any belief contrary to John 17:3 is eternal death (hell fire) - e.g. a Trinity and we know 1 John 5:7 is a fabrication. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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9V4i8xw1 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 481 Senior Member	Excellent work and explanation sister. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-29-2012, 04:55 PM	#3
Mappaindy Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	http://www.halaltube.com/jesus-chris...y-and-in-islam See "classic" Shaykh Ahmed Deedat in action at 37:23 on this very point. And http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlA22NNFlDw 3:12:05 with his debate with Jimmy Swaggart. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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