[scoussysows]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_foreign_assistance

"Between 1976 and 2006, Saudi developmental aid amounted to US$49 billion[1], second only to the United States of America. The ODA/GNP ratio averaged 4.2% over this period, well above the highest amount provided by Development Assistance Committee countries (the DAC average is 0.35%).[2] On a per-capita basis, the country is the biggest worldwide donator though the aid has only been given to Muslim countries.[1]"


As we know, american idea of "aid" includes giving food to yemen and then threatening to take it away again if they dont comply with american requests, and giving 1.5billion dollars in military "aid" to husni mubarak.

So one could be forgiven for concluding that saudi arabia is the most generous country on the planet.

So rather than complaining about saudi arabia, take a look at your own countries, and your own selves, and do what you can for the ummah before pointing fingers at others. Muslims in the UK fill up the brothels, cinemas, bookies and nightclubs, so before we point fingers at muslims on the other side of the planet, let us look a little closer to home and ask ourselves what WE are doing for the ummah inshAllah.

[topbonusescod]

Lol. What a joke.

[Finanziamento]

Lol. What a joke.

I know its a joke isnt it. All these pakistanis and and turkish and other ethnicities sitc there criticising saudi when their own countries and communities are worse. if only they kept quiet and focused on improving themselves and their own communities rather than engaging in racism, tribalism, sectarianism, and trying to highlight the faults of one particular nation of muslims over and over again, they might have actually been part of the solution rather than part of the problem with this ummah

[Rexaviennatutr]

Yeh, but with all due respect, it wasn't all these other countries that conspired with the British to destroy the Caliphate was it. Maybe if you had a mind that went back 300 years, you'd realize the Saudi government (through the ages) is central to the decline of the Ummah. Instead of looking at statistics, read.

[bahrain41]

take a look at your own countries first. And Allah doesnt allow nations to be destoryed due to tactical or logistical reasons. the khilafah fell because of their own circumstances. the ummah has survived against much stronger enemies when we were in a much weaker position but Allah allowed the ottomans to fall due to their own problems. arabia was of no strategic advantage to the ottomans in their war against the europeans

whether your right or wrong, the saudis of today cannot be held accountable for the events that took place 300 years ago, and what about the traitors in pakistan or bangladesh? Why mention saudi more than every otehr muslim nation combined, when saudi is clearly the best of what we have today?

[TagBahthuff]

Who would have thought we had a Saudi Arabia government spokesperson right here in Sunniforum.

[plaiskegizils]

saudi arabia is being made out to be like kazakhstan!

"saudi arabia greatest country in the world
all other countries are run by little girls
saudi arabia number one exporter of oil
all other countries have inferior oil"
....

: p

[juliannamed]

It is nice if the Saudi's give so much aid away to the Muslims but it doesn't excuse them for their alliance to kufr and the locking up of the innocents and everything else they do. Just like how the US give loads of aid away but kill Muslims regardless. And tbh, we'd EXPECT the Saudi's to give out so much money, considering the oil wealth should belong to the Muslims and not to the elite of Saudi and elsewhere

[MortgFinsJohnQ]

The money is paid to keep them into power.

[gennickhif]

my point is not that saudi is free from mistakes, but people always compain about why is SAUDI not more generous, well they are the most generous muslim country, so given that virtually none of you are saudis, perhaps you should start looking at your own nations first. I find it unjust why saudi gets a disproportionately large amount of criticism when they have a disproportionately small amount of issues compared to other muslim nations. and people never provide a logical justiciation for this racist behaviour so i am satisifoed that it is because people are following their desires rather than following what is pleasing to Allah so I am advising you so that you may be spared from being questioned on the yawmil quiyama for your injustice. especially when this is a deobandi forum mainly and noone can provide a reputable deobandi scholar who advised nobodies to criticise muslim rulers on internet forums.

I also defend any muslim nation who is doing some good btw, not just saudi, i also defend turkey, tunisia, indonesia

[gydrorway]

Brother, you must realize that Saudi Arabia has the most oil out of all the Muslim countries AND it gets a lot of money back from Muslim countries from haajis and mutamireen (hajj, umrah, and ziyarah are big business in Saudi Arabia, as can be seen from the expensive hotels opening up in Makkah and Madinah). Also, people don't complain about Saudi generosity; they complain about the royal family and its excesses as well as its hypocrisies. That of course doesn't exclude the leaders of Muslim countries, either. In fact, I'd say that if the Pakistani government had the same amount of money that the Saudi government has, Pakistan would still be in the same condition it is in.

[Effofqueeno]

but then surely the pakistani government should be criticised as much as saudi then? So why is saudi always the first country on peoples tongues when A) we shouldnt backbite rulers and B) their own countries are more deserving of criticism

[DoctorWeryDolt]

but then surely the pakistani government should be criticised as much as saudi then? So why is saudi always the first country on peoples tongues when A) we shouldnt backbite rulers and B) their own countries are more deserving of criticism

A) does not exist and for B) since when did criticism get restricted to international boundaries accepted by UN? i criticize pakistan, the puppet afghan govt, saudia, turkey etc. so whats your point?

[77rexulceme]

but then surely the pakistani government should be criticised as much as saudi then? So why is saudi always the first country on peoples tongues when A) we shouldnt backbite rulers and B) their own countries are more deserving of criticism

Or maybe you're just hypersensitive whenever Saudi's name is mentioned?

[CializCialiscsqw]

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bro most muslims would rather live in saudi than pakistan so dont try and claim that saudi is somehow worse because its clear you are racist and sectarian againsts arabs and salafis and this skews your views on a lot of issues. its a weakness that is harmful to you and you should try to rectify it inshAllah because you could harm your akhira with it

[CenICrerflind]

Saudi Arabia? Please spare us the embarassment. Unless you mean the country leading in the world in buying military weapons by billions from USA

Below is the Commitment to Development Index 2011 and KSA is no where



Commitment to Development Index 2011





I rest my case.

[wpFWNoIt]

A) does not exist and for B) since when did criticism get restricted to international boundaries accepted by UN? i criticize pakistan, the puppet afghan govt, saudia, turkey etc. so whats your point?

Brother, ignore the rant. Subservience to the cursed saudi regime in bed with the americans is just part and parcel of the assembly line program that churns out salafis.

[D6Ri5u13]

Or maybe you're just hypersensitive whenever Saudi's name is mentioned?

or maybe I see saudi getting more criticism than every other muslim nation put together

abu zakir:

Hadith - Reported by Ahmad (3/403) and Ibn Abee 'Aasim (2/521) with a saheeh isnaad.

It is authentically reported from the Messenger in the hadeeth of 'Iyaad ibn Ghunum who said, "The Messenger of Allaah (saaws) said, 'Whoever desires to advise the one with authority then he should not do so openly, rather he should take him by the hand and take him into seclusion (and then advise him). And if he accepts (the advice) from him then (he has achieved his objective) and if not, then he has fulfilled that which was a duty upon him.' "

[lidersontop]

but then surely the pakistani government should be criticised as much as saudi then? So why is saudi always the first country on peoples tongues when A) we shouldnt backbite rulers and B) their own countries are more deserving of criticism

The Pakistani government is criticized left, right, and centre. It is only the Saudi government that gets a "seal of approval" from some scholars, barring people from criticizing it. People make fun of the Pakistani government even within Pakistan. Try the same thing in Saudia and you'll disappear, especially if you're a non-Saudi. Scholars have been removed from their posts for much, much less in Saudi Arabia. Recall the incident about the co-ed university, which is haraam by all accounts. When a scholar tried to say that this was haraam and the king was simply not made aware (basically, the scholar was going out of his way to make excuses for the king while maintaining the prohibition of co-education), he was promptly removed from his post.

Your understanding of the term "backbite" is lacking. If a person is an open sinner, then it isn't backbiting to talk about this person and his flagrant sinning. If a person holds influence and his influence affects others, then it isn't backbiting to warn others about this person.

Not to mention the fact that most of us are not subjects to the Saudi monarchy so the Saudi king is as much our ameer as the Dutch queen is our ameerah (i.e. they are not our ameers since we do not live in Saudi Arabia and we are not their subjects).

[TNOULbr2]

Saudi Arabia? Please spare us the embarassment. Unless you mean the country leading in the world in buying military weapons by billions from USA

Below is the Commitment to Development Index 2011 and KSA is no where



Commitment to Development Index 2011





I rest my case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Develop...ance_Committee

DAC is a european institution so saudi isnt a member. interesting that someone with such a long term membership and low post count fealt strongly enough to post erroeousness information though, shows how bitter the bias against saudi is here, wallahi this bias isnt something good for you or the ummah, you should always be driven by the truth and not emotional bias, I ask Allah to cure you of this