[primaveraloler]

are the ulama calling for jihad to help protect the burma muslims, like they did with the bosnian muslims all those years ago?

[Andromino]

even if they do whos capable? Israels smart the whole state is a military state even females 18 and over are required military training, iran requires military training too why dont any of the muslim countries, no wonder Muslims are so easy to oppress had US attacked Pak instead of Afghan there'd be no resistance left by now.

[uranbigis]

even if they do whos capable? Israels smart the whole state is a military state even females 18 and over are required military training, iran requires military training too why dont any of the muslim countries, no wonder Muslims are so easy to oppress had US attacked Pak instead of Afghan there'd be no resistance left by now.

There's a point in what sister said.

We aren't trained. We just have the 'feelings' to do 'something' for the Ummah. I guess, these 'feelings' need to be channeled in an organized way. We need to think in our own domains 'what we can do for the Ummah'. If there's someone who has the wealth, then he must send money to the Muslim victims. If someone has the talent in technology then he must use everything by which he can use the computer, electronic media and other mediums to spread the word. If someone is good at literary skills and writing, then he must write articles to generate hope within the Ummah and instigate them to wake up lest its too late.

As for J!had. We have to understand that if we move to fight without training to these areas is synonymous to suicide. Mufti Taqi sahab clearly says that one who is not trained must stay back and train himself first while simultaneously thinking on the lines of 'how he can help the Ummah while remaining at home' (of course that applies to people who can not go). So its the training which is wajib first.

[gardeniyas]

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Myanmar president says Rohingyas not welcome
Myanmar’s president Thein Sein said that Rohingya people are not welcome in the country, and that refugee camps or deportation was the only solution for communal unrest. Muslim Rohingyas have long been discriminated against in Myanmar, with authorities withholding land rights, education and public services


Myanmar's president told the UN Thursday that refugee camps or deportation was the "solution" for nearly a million Rohingya Muslims in the wake of communal unrest in the west of the country.

Thein Sein, who had previously struck a more conciliatory tone during fighting that left at least 80 people dead in Rakhine State last month, told the chief of the United Nations refugee agency the Rohingya were not welcome.
"We will take responsibility for our ethnic people but it is impossible to accept the illegally entered Rohingyas, who are not our ethnicity," he told UN High Commissioner for Refugees Antonio Guterres, according to the president's official website.
The former junta general said the "only solution" was to send the Rohingyas -- which number around 800,000 in Myanmar and are considered to be some of the world's most persecuted minorities -- to refugee camps run by UNHCR.

"We will send them away if any third country would accept them," he added. "This is what we are thinking is the solution to the issue."
Communal violence between ethnic Buddhist Rakhine and local Muslims, including the Rohingya, swept the state in June, forcing tens of thousands to flee as homes were torched and communities ripped apart.

Decades of discrimination have left the Rohingya stateless, with Myanmar implementing restrictions on their movement and withholding land rights, education and public services, the UN says.

Unwanted in Myanmar and Bangladesh -- where an estimated 300,000 live -- Rohingya migrants have undertaken dangerous voyages by boat towards Malaysia or Thailand in recent years.
According to the UNHCR around one million Rohingya are now thought to live outside Myanmar, but they have not been welcomed by a third country.
Bangladesh has turned back Rohingya boats arriving on its shores since the outbreak of the unrest.
"Basically Myanmar does not consider these 735,000 Muslims in northern Rakhine state to be their citizens and we think the solution is for them to get citizenship in Myanmar," UNHCR's Asia spokeswoman Kitty McKinsey told AFP.
"So we would not be very likely to assist in transporting them out of the country and housing them somewhere else. As a refugee agency we do not usually participate in creating refugees."

McKinsey said the UN had been working for "several decades" in the area, trying to promote reconciliation and "benefit all communities, not just the Muslims".
Ten aid organization staff, including some from the UN, were detained in Rakhine in the wake of the unrest, according to a situation bulletin by the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) last week.
Three people -- two from the UN and another international aid worker -- are thought to have appeared in court on June 9.
"They have been charged and appeared in court but they have not been tried," an unnamed aid worker told AFP.
Although security forces have quelled the worst of the unrest, tens of thousands of people remain in government-run relief camps with the UN's World Food Program reporting that it has provided aid to some 100,000 people.
Both sides have accused each other of violent attacks, which were sparked following the rape and murder of a local Buddhist woman and subsequent revenge attack by a mob of ethnic Rakhines that left 10 Muslims dead on June 3.
A state of emergency is still in force in several areas.




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[UJRonald]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_people


The origin of the term "Rohingya" is disputed. Some Rohingya historians like Khalilur Rahman contend that the term Rohingya is derived from Arabic word 'Raham' meaning sympathy.[5] They trace the term back to a ship wreck in the 8th century CE. According to them, after the Arab ship wrecked near Ramree Island, Arab traders were ordered to be executed by the Arakanese king. Then, they shouted in their language, 'Raham'. Hence, these people were called 'Raham'. Gradually it changed from Raham to Rhohang and finally to Rohingyas.[5][6] However, the claim was disputed by Jahiruddin Ahmed and Nazir Ahmed, former president and Secretary of Arakan Muslim Conference respectively.[5] They argued that ship wrecked Muslims are currently called 'Thambu Kya' Muslims and currently residing along the Arakan sea shore. Should the term Rohingya derive from these Muslims, "Thambu Kyas" would have been the first group to be known as Ruhaingyas. According to them, Rohingyas were descendants of inhabitants of Ruha in Afghanistan.[5] Another historian, MA Chowdhury argued that among the Muslim populations, the term 'Mrohaung' (Old Arakanese Kingdom) is corrupted to Rohang. And thus inhabitants of the region are called Rohingya.[5] Muslim settlements have existed in Arakan since the arrival of Arabs there in the 8th century CE. The direct descendants of Arab settlers are believed to live in central Arakan near Mrauk-U and Kyauktaw townships, rather than the Mayu frontier area, the present day area where a majority of Rohingya are populated, near Chittagong Division, Bangladesh.[13]
[edit]Kingdom of Mrauk U
Early evidence of Bengali Muslim settlements in Arakan date back to the time of King Narameikhla (1430–1434) of Kingdom of Mrauk U. After 24 years of exile in Bengal, he regained control of the Arakanese throne in 1430 with military assistance from the Sultanate of Bengal. The Bengalis who came with him formed their own settlements in the region.[14][15] Narameikhla ceded some territory to the Sultan of Bengal and recognized his sovereignty over the areas. In recognition of his kingdom's vassal status, the kings of Arakan received Islamic titles and used the use of Bengali Islamic coinage within the kingdom. Narameikhla minted his own coins with Burmese characters on one side and Persian characters on the other.[15] Arakan's vassalage to Bengal was brief. After Sultan Jalaluddin Muhammad Shah's death in 1433, Narameikhla's successors repaid Bengal by occupying Ramu in 1437 and Chittagong in 1459. Arakan would hold Chittagong until 1666.[16][17]
Even after gaining independence from the Sultans of Bengal, the Arakanese kings continued the custom of maintaining Muslim titles.[18] The Buddhist kings compared themselves to Sultans and fashioned themselves after Mughal rulers. They also continued to employ Muslims in prestigious positions within the royal administration.[19] The Bengali Muslim population increased in the 17th century, as they were employed in a variety of workforces in Arakan. Some of them worked as Bengali, Persian and Arabic scribes in the Arakanese courts, which, despite remaining mostly Buddhist, adopted Islamic fashions from the neighbouring Sultanate of Bengal.[14] The Kamein/Kaman, who are regarded as one of the official ethnic groups of Burma, are descended from these Muslims.[20]

[NowFloabDow]

i heard theres a Rohingya community in Pakistan? Cant we do anything? send planes to pick up some refugees? Wish we still had people like gen akhtar and gen nasir around.

[induffike]

Salam Alaikum,

Can someone brothers/sisters tell us what is going on there?

If you can be more specific about what you'd like to know, I may be able to answer some questions. I'm not a Muslim, but I've been living in Cambodia for the past ten years, and have friends and colleagues who are currently living in Burma. The Muslim communities in the region (notably the Cham) are notoriously fractured, and as a result have been heavily persecuted throughout history. Sadly I'm not as optimistic about Burma's immediate future as the rest if the world seems to be, and the Muslims there will be the last to find any sort of stability.

[Eromereorybig]

i heard theres a Rohingya community in Pakistan? Cant we do anything? send planes to pick up some refugees? Wish we still had people like gen akhtar and gen nasir around.

You really think thats going to solve the problem . The racist government in Burma wants you to do exactly things like that . Displace a whole population .

Irony how Su chi is getting the nobel prize and the government of Burma is legalizing mass displacement and indirect genocide of Rohingya Muslims .

[Muhabsssa]

thats not true the only ones saying that are the fake liberals like and those who belong to their circles theyre anything but nationalists they hate pakistan for uts ideological basis i see their BS on a daily basis and theyre anything but extreme nationalists.
The extreme nationalists are actually very in touch with the whole ummah concept and running pages on FB working on spreading awareness about Burma Syria and recently Kashmir after the Kashmir Torture Trail came out. We've been trying to get the media to highlighy the issues by we get snubbed as PTI trolls or mullahs etc.
There was a media conference today dont know if anyone heard the Social Media Mela of IndoPak and all the anti Pakistan secular scum attended it, they ended up cracking jokes on Kashmiris and their "poster boy" shakeel bhatt. There was an uproar on twitter. Oddly it was kashmirs yom e shahdah today. Theyre not loyal to pakistan or islam theyre loyal to india funny theyre mostly HR activists like beena sarwar byt she hasnt once spoken up for kashmir or burma. Hypocrite lot.

there are lots of assumptions in what you said which are im sorry to say not true. this has more to do with your incorrect definition of terms. extreme nationalist is someone who says 'pakistan first'. not 'islam first'. and defends it vociferously. i dont know what is a fake liberal nor does it matter whether he is fake or real what matters is what his take on islam is. liberal will not hold back in saying anything against islam. a nationalist will say everything about Islam with the perspective of Islam. the extreme ones are again vociferous in opining this. many liberals and nationalists are alike but you are correct as many can be different as well.

all in all they are enemies of islam. after no matter how many posts about Burma on FB at the end of the day they will not support khilafat but secular democracy.

[bumxumer]

Massacre of Muslims in Burma. Where is the Media and the Muslim Ummah?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYMsZ8yk7Yg


Watch this video. Bangladeshi coastal guards are pushing back Arakan Muslim refugees who are crying for help "Oh Allah help us!".

The current Bangladeshi government is secular and pro Indian, i.e. India firster. The Bangladeshi foreign minister cynically labeled the oppressed Rohinga Muslims being Jamat-e-Islami supporters. If you want to deny the rights of an oppressed Muslim, you label him as 'Islamist', 'extremist', 'terrorist', etc. This is the norm of the current 'civilized' world.

[osteoftex]

Over 20,000 Murdered. The Genocide of Muslims in Burma.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbyCj3uHzMs

[MasTaBlau]

Burma: Mass Arrests, Raids on Rohingya Muslims.

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July 5, 2012
(New York) – Burmese security forces have responded to sectarian violence in northern Arakan State with mass arrests and unlawful force against the Rohingya Muslim population, Human Rights Watch said today. Local police, the military, and a border security force known as Nasaka have committed numerous abuses in predominantly Muslim townships while combating the violence between the Rohingya and ethnic Arakan, who are predominantly Buddhist, that broke out in early June 2012.

Human Rights Watch urged the Burmese government to end arbitrary and incommunicado detention, and redeploy and hold accountable security forces implicated in serious abuses. Burmese authorities should ensure safe access to the area by the United Nations (UN), independent humanitarian organizations, and the media.

“The Burmese government needs to put an immediate end to the abusive sweeps by the security forces against Rohingya communities,” said Elaine Pearson, deputy Asia director at Human Rights Watch. “Anyone being held should be promptly charged or released, and their relatives given access.”

Burmese security forces have been implicated in killings and other abuses since the sectarian violence in northern Arakan State began, Human Rights Watch said. For instance, on June 23, in a village near the town of Maungdaw, security forces pursued and opened fire on two dozen Rohingya villagers who had been hiding from the violence in fields and forest areas. The total killed or wounded is unknown, but one survivor told Human Rights Watch that out of a group of eight young men who were fleeing, only two managed to escape unharmed after the security forces fired on them.

“Everybody was so scared,” he told Human Rights Watch. “We saw them entering and we left, trying to get out of the village. There was a canal, but some people could not cross it and the army shot at them and killed them.”

The recent sectarian violence began after an ethnic Arakan woman was allegedly raped and killed by three Muslim men on Ramri island in southern Arakan State in late May, which was followed by the June 3 killing of 10 Muslims by an Arakan mob in Toungop. On June 8, thousands of Rohingya rioted in the town of Maungdaw, destroying Arakan property and causing an unknown number of deaths. Groups of Rohingya subsequently committed killings and other violence elsewhere in the state, burning down Arakan homes and villages. Arakan groups, in some cases with the collusion of local authorities and police, committed violence against Rohingya communities, including killings and beatings, and burning down Muslim homes and villages.

On June 10, President Thein Sein declared a state of emergency in northern Arakan State, which permits the armed forces to carry out arrests and detain people without fundamental due process protections. While the Burmese army has largely contained the sectarian violence, abuses by security forces against Rohingya communities appear to be on the upsurge in recent weeks, Human Rights Watch said.

Local police and the Nasaka, claiming to be searching for Rohingya criminal suspects involved in the sectarian strife, have conducted mass round-ups of Rohingya. On July 1, the state-run New Light of Myanmar reported that 30 Arakan suspects were arrested for the June 3 killings. Nevertheless, the mass arrests ongoing in northern Arakan State seem to be discriminatory, as the authorities in these townships do not appear to be investigating or apprehending Arakan suspected of criminal offenses, Human Rights Watch said. The total number of people arrested, their names, and any charges against them have not been reported.

Witnesses told Human Rights Watch that state security forces violently raided predominately Rohingya villages in Maungdaw township, firing on villagers and looting homes and businesses. In several villages, police and Nasaka dragged Rohingya from their homes and violently beat them. Witnesses in villages outside of Maungdaw said dozens of people, including women and children, were taken away in mid-June in Nasaka trucks to unknown locations, and have not been heard from since. Mass arrests of Rohingya have also taken place in Buthidaung and Rathedaung townships. Witnesses in Maungdaw township described several instances in which Arakan men wielding sticks and swords accompanied the security forces in raids on Rohingya villages. A 27-year-old Rohingya man told Human Rights Watch, “Twenty-five of my relatives have been arrested.… I saw with my own eyes, two of my nephews were taken by the military and Nasaka. They tried to hide themselves in the large embankments in the paddy fields, but some Arakan found them and stabbed them with long knives. They stabbed them and took them to the jail.”

Human Rights Watch documented the destruction of Buddhist temples, mosques, and thousands of Arakan and Rohingya houses that were burned to the ground during the sectarian violence, leaving an estimated 90,000 people displaced and taking segregated refuge in temporary camps and community sites. Hundreds of Rohingya fled across the nearby border to Bangladesh, where many were forced back by Bangladeshi border guards.

“The violence in Arakan State has devastated both the Rohingya and Arakan communities, but government efforts to identify and arrest those responsible should not result in further abuses,” Pearson said. “The sectarian violence and state of emergency provides no excuse for the security forces to continue their past record of abuses and discrimination against the Rohingya community.”

The Burmese government restricts international access to northern Arakan State – an area comprising the predominantly Muslim townships of Maungdaw, Buthidaung, and Rathedaung – and severely curtails freedom of movement for Rohingya residents. The Nasaka’s long history of arbitrary detentions, torture, and other ill-treatment of Rohingya detainees heightens concerns about the recent mass arrests, Human Rights Watch said.

The government has not allowed independent investigations in the affected areas since the violence began. On June 6, Thein Sein ordered a high-level government committee to investigate the causes of the violence, identify the perpetrators, and issue recommendations. The committee is scheduled to present its findings by August 30. However, there are concerns about the independence and objectivity of the investigation committee, given that it includes local security forces and Arakan State officials, Human Rights Watch said.

The government should invite the UN special rapporteur on human rights in Burma, Tomas Quintana, to Arakan State to conduct an urgent visit to investigate the violence and conduct of the security forces, Human Rights Watch said. The authorities should immediately disclose the location of all detention centers, provide the names of all detainees, bring them promptly before a judge, and allow independent humanitarian agencies access to all facilities.

Human Rights Watch urged the United States, European Union, ASEAN, Australia, Japan, and other countries concerned about human rights in Burma to press the government to allow an independent and thorough investigation of the violence, and to ensure that the basic rights of those detained are respected. They should also call upon the Bangladesh authorities not to return or push back those fleeing violence and to provide them temporary protection.

“The Burmese government should demonstrate that the political changes taking place in the country extend to the ethnic areas, and that abuses by local authorities will not be tolerated,” Pearson said. “This means stopping the violations, holding abusive officials to account, and promptly permitting an independent investigation.”

[spklnraz]

Burma’s Rohingya: A Denial of Citizenship and Human Rights.

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The eruption of violence in Burma’s Arakan state in June witnessed the killing of ten Muslims who were on their way back from the country’s former capital, Rangoon. They were killed by a Rakhine mob of 300 after the rape and murder of a Rakhine woman in Rambree Township by three local Muslim youths. The government arrested three Muslims on the spot and one committed suicide whilst in police custody; the remaining two have recently been sentenced to death. The government established an inquiry commission into the vigilante killing, led by the deputy interior minister. However, although suspects were arrested, a lack of people willing to testify as eyewitnesses has prevented justice being served.

Rakhine extremists and local security officials insulted local Rohingya in the lead up to the violence, with local media stations increasing the tension by falsely reporting that Rakhine members of the public were being terrorized by Rohingya groups. The scale of misinformation was not only confined to the local media but extended to Hmuu Zaw aka Major Zaw Htay, the director of the Presidential Office, who posted inflammatory reports on his Facebook page. The circulated reports informed the public that armed Rohingya groups were invading the country, despite there having been no armed movement in the region itself for about a decade, let alone across the entire country. While mass killings continued inside the country, cyber war was also utilised with many Rohingya and Muslim sites, commercial sites, and even governmental sites of Bangladesh hacked.

“They tried many times to attack my website but they couldn’t. They tried to dig out my location to harass me physically”, said by Mr Ba Sein who runs the Rohingya Blogger website. “They target all the people who are advocating for the Rohingya cause”, he added. The front door of Mr Tun Khin, President of the Burmese Rohingya Organisation UK (BROUK), was smashed down in faraway London, while the violence continued in western Burma. Just a few days before the eruption of violence against the Rohingya, an anti-Rohingya demonstration was held in front of Downing Street by the London-based Burma Democratic Concern. In the lead up to the demonstration the word “Kalar”, a derogatory term for Muslims, was widely circulating across social media sites. As the massacre of Rohingya people began, Facebook users posted statements such as “Kill all Kalars”.

Questions surrounding the murder of Muslims were transformed into issues of citizenship and ethnicity. Ko Ko Gyi, a prominent 88 generation student leader remarked that, “Rohingya people are not an ethnic group of Burma and they are invading our country and sovereignty”. He added that the Rohingya would be driven out with the collaboration of army if required. When the reporter asked Burma’s democracy icon Daw Aung San Suu Kyi’s view on the Rohingya, she commented simply that, “I do not know”. She has previously considered the ‘rule of law’ and proper immigration procedures as the key to resolving citizenship issues surrounding the Rohingya; however, several of her party members have openly rejected the Rohingya as Burmese citizen.

Dr Aye Maung, Chairman of the Rakhine Nationalities Development Party (RNDP), said that an Arakan state must be established, like Israel. He issued the statement describing how Rohingya must live in separate areas and should be promptly resettled in other countries within a short period.

During the attacks on the Rohingya, more than 6,000 Rohingya houses were burnt down in Sittwe alone, the capital of Arakan state. At the present moment, large numbers of Rohingya are sheltering outside of the town, without assurances that they will be allowed to return to their land. What they would return to is another issue in itself: shops have been looted; mosques have been destroyed – 35 in Sittwe alone; religious books have been desecrated; and widespread reports of rape and sexual abuse by the Burmese military, a tactic they have used historically against the Rohingya, will leave untold scars across the oppressed population.

In just one of many examples, four military personnel were caught after having raped an 18-year-old Rohingya girl. In a telling example of the instrumental role the media has played, the case was not only not reported, but news agencies are still continuously repeating the initial story of a Rakhine woman raped by three Rohingya men.

In addition to the loss of communities and livelihoods, large numbers of Rohingya youths and academics have been arrested and taken to unknown locations. Some have been released following extortionate payouts to security forces.

The UN have described the Rohingya as the most persecuted minority group in the world; a Burmese Parliamentary team visited the affected region but met neither any local Rohingya MPs, nor offered to provide any humanitarian relief. Furthermore, in the midst of the recent outbreaks of violence, many displaced civilians were turned back from the Bangladesh border when trying to escape the violence. International and human rights organisations requested that the Bangladesh government keep open its border and provide humanitarian assistance – both requests continued to be refused. The actual death toll from the last few weeks is very difficult to ascertain as there are restrictions on international media and non-governmental organisations.

The Rohingya are unwanted in Burma, and are unwelcome in Bangladesh. International pressure will need to force the change and reach a solution that resolves the troubling denial of citizenship and human rights.

[sat23neus2]

fake pictures of burma massacre floating on social media.

these fake pictures are just diluting the atrocity!

[FotoCihasWewb]

Over 20,000 Murdered. The Genocide of Muslims in Burma.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbyCj3uHzMs

this video title is misleading. it is about the plight of rohingya refugees in bangladesh that are mistreated. look at 1:17
how can you prove that the man who speaks afterwards isnt talking about bangali guards rather than burmese guards?
and then the end interview. story about bangali oppression on the poor woman.

[lh88gFzI]

this video title is misleading. it is about the plight of rohingya refugees in bangladesh that are mistreated. look at 1:17
how can you prove that the man who speaks afterwards isnt talking about bangali guards rather than burmese guards?
and then the end interview. story about bangali oppression on the poor woman.

Thanks for the corrections. I didn't watch the whole video. It seems that some western 'charity' org are using the oppressed people for political purpose.

I will be more careful in future inshallah.

[Ekzamenov]

It's very sad and that Aan Saan Suu kyii or whatever her name was ...should be ashamed of herself.

[detskpit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwpe5YVeuGw

are these burmese muslims being burnt alive?

warning: very graphic

[6ZCo3xuK]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwpe5YVeuGw

are these burmese muslims being burnt alive?

warning: very graphic

They don't look burmese. I hope people aren't putting up false video's when in reality, there is a serious problem in Burma (and I wouldn't be surprised if some Muslims HAD been burnt alive- the Burmese Junta is totally depraved)

[Kennypor]

They don't look burmese. I hope people aren't putting up false video's when in reality, there is a serious problem in Burma (and I wouldn't be surprised if some Muslims HAD been burnt alive- the Burmese Junta is totally depraved)

then who are they? africans?
who would do this in africa?