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Old 05-09-2010, 01:16 AM   #1
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Default Why are you Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i, or Hanbali?
Asalamu Alaikum,

i am interested in why people are following the Madhhab they follow?

so why are you Hanafi or Maliki or Shafi'i or Hanbali?

(this is not a thread about the legality of following a Madhhab since i personally believe layman must follow one of the Four Madhhahib) i am simply interested in why ''Yo''u are following the Madhhab you follow? what are the characteristics/principles you specifically prefer?, why did you chose the specific Madhhab etc.)
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Old 05-09-2010, 01:26 AM   #2
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I am just an ignorant layman but 2 main factors are looked at:

-madhab of your family/country

-availability of scholars & books
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Old 05-09-2010, 03:19 AM   #3
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Availability of local scholars.

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Old 05-09-2010, 03:59 AM   #4
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I know this is not necessarily a "proof", but one of the reasons for what I adopted was that in an article by Nir Rosen about the Twelver Shias of Baghdad and the civil war that was raging in Iraq at that time, the Twelver Shia pointed to the shrine of Abu Hanifah and said that therein lies the son of "illegal things" (not to use the actual words he used).

When I read that, I knew that if Abu Hanifah enraged the Twelvers so much, it was only correct for me to adopt his methodology, since what the Twelvers hate is normally the best of what Allah loves.
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Old 05-09-2010, 05:33 AM   #5
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^ JazakAllah

I follow cuz I aint no Imam bro.
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Old 05-09-2010, 05:38 AM   #6
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Wa AlaykumuSalaam,

I was born into a Hanafi family, so I suppose, as a child, my parents taught me how to pray Salah etc. according to the Hanafi School of Thought. Also, the vast majority of 'Ulamah and Tullaab ul-Ilm in my locality are Hanafi.
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Old 05-09-2010, 05:55 AM   #7
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I was born from Hanafi parents but later Allah made my heart content by reading up on Abu Hanifah 's chain back to Rasulullah and how the process of mashura was made by him and many Ulamaa before concluding on a mas'alah.

I marveled at his fiqh genius and his praying 'ishaa and fajr salaah with the same wudhu for many years (40 if my memory serves me correct)

To make unfounded objections against him and the rest of the a'immati arba' is like spitting in the wind.
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Old 05-09-2010, 06:14 AM   #8
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I know this is not necessarily a "proof", but one of the reasons for what I adopted was that in an article by Nir Rosen about the Twelver Shias of Baghdad and the civil war that was raging in Iraq at that time, the Twelver Shia pointed to the shrine of Abu Hanifah and said that therein lies the son of "illegal things" (not to use the actual words he used).

When I read that, I knew that if Abu Hanifah enraged the Twelvers so much, it was only correct for me to adopt his methodology, since what the Twelvers hate is normally the best of what Allah loves.


Nice!

As for me, I was essentially born into the Hanafi Madhab, but, I've always preferred it over the others for the reason that Imam Abu Hanifa was closest to Rasulullah , chronologically, and because he died Shaheed.
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Old 05-09-2010, 03:30 PM   #9
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my family and most ppl around are Hanafi, so i guess its the madhab i no most about...also i wouldn't like to change in case it causes doubts in my deen or any of the scholars
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Old 05-09-2010, 06:28 PM   #10
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We are not hanafi, Shafi or Maliki or Hambley
We are muslim who follows the interpretation of Quran and Sunnah and Shariah based on evidance, practices of the 4 notable scholars and their student who has shifted through and developed various islamic scineces inorder to safeguaud deen from manipulation at the hands of anti islam movement.
We follow school of thought because it is natural for people to follow simple instruction instead of splitting ones hair to find out the most ruling simply by reading text and applying it literally without knowing the context and understanding and interpreation by the Earlier generation.
http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/ahm/newmadhh.htm

Also the differences allows scholars to a manovere depending on situations. Deen of islam is for all time and usul of fiqh allows deen to relevent without losing its original form or being mutated into something different.
Amoung the Companion (notable scholarly) there were differences and was accepted. We simply follow the natural differences without making into an ism. The differences always stays within the set boundaries and exceeding this causes confusion and helps to dismentle the form of deen as many orientalist have been trying to do so. In the early days often one school become dominant in an area due to the calibre of the student and scholar present at a time and other scholars, ruler and people recognised the high calibre scholar and adopted it and subsequently gained popularity. This way one school become the primary source for one area.
Hanafi School became dominant in place like Iraq, Khurasan, china and parts of shams. Malaki school became dominant in Africa, Shafi School in Sham and those areas where early muslim travelled to east. Hambaly school generaly in small areas of Hijaj.

As for me I was born into a family adhereing to hanafi School of Jurisprudence but I was antagonistic to the 4 schools of thought. After much soul searching I realised why try to invent a wheel when I don't even have the grasp of arabic let alone classical quranic arabic, let alone knowldge of hadith and science of fiqh. You could say realsing how little I knew, I followed a school of thought out of necessity without becoming a madhabist.

Allahalim
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Old 05-10-2010, 09:19 PM   #11
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Asalamu Alaikum,

i am interested in why people are following the Madhhab they follow?

so why are you Hanafi or Maliki or Shafi'i or Hanbali?

(this is not a thread about the legality of following a Madhhab since i personally believe layman must follow one of the Four Madhhahib) i am simply interested in why ''Yo''u are following the Madhhab you follow? what are the characteristics/principles you specifically prefer?, why did you chose the specific Madhhab etc.)


Same verse answers both questions.


وَمَآ أَرۡسَلۡنَا مِن قَبۡلِكَ إِلَّا رِجَالاً۬ نُّوحِىٓ إِلَيۡہِمۡ*ۚ فَسۡـَٔلُوٓاْ أَهۡلَ ٱلذِّكۡرِ إِن كُنتُمۡ لَا تَعۡلَمُونَ


[16:43] We did not send (messengers) before you other than men whom We inspired with revelation. So, ask the people (having the knowledge) of the Reminder, if you do not know.

Allah (SWT) has commanded me to ask the Scholars about what I don't know.

All Scholars around me are Hanafi therefore I follow the Hanafi Madhab.

Otherwise my choices are to either rely on "Shaykh google" or go out of my way and seek Scholars who are not Hanafi. Both choices are not substantiated from the Qur'aan & Sunnah i.e. :

a) I am supposed to seek trustworthy sources of knowledge and I don't know who runs what on the Internet

b) Islamic Shariah does not oblige me to ignore many Scholars around me (for no reason) and seek other ones i.e. that sort of hardship has not been stipulated in the Shariah.
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:40 PM   #12
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Same verse answers both questions.


وَمَآ أَرۡسَلۡنَا مِن قَبۡلِكَ إِلَّا رِجَالاً۬ نُّوحِىٓ إِلَيۡہِمۡ*ۚ فَسۡـَٔلُوٓاْ أَهۡلَ ٱلذِّكۡرِ إِن كُنتُمۡ لَا تَعۡلَمُونَ


[16:43] We did not send (messengers) before you other than men whom We inspired with revelation. So, ask the people (having the knowledge) of the Reminder, if you do not know.

Allah (SWT) has commanded me to ask the Scholars about what I don't know.

All Scholars around me are Hanafi therefore I follow the Hanafi Madhab.

Otherwise my choices are to either rely on "Shaykh google" or go out of my way and seek Scholars who are not Hanafi. Both choices are not substantiated from the Qur'aan & Sunnah i.e. :

a) I am supposed to seek trustworthy sources of knowledge and I don't know who runs what on the Internet

b) Islamic Shariah does not oblige me to ignore many Scholars around me (for no reason) and seek other ones i.e. that sort of hardship has not been stipulated in the Shariah.
JazakAllah khayr,
Brother what about people living in Western Europe for example Belgium/Holland/Deutschland countries heavily dominated by the ''Salafee religious scene'' no traditional religious scholars around i can pretty much say i am in such a situation. i have to rely on the internet and translated books for example.
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:43 PM   #13
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JazakAllah khayr,
Brother what about people living in Western Europe for example Belgium/Holland/Deutschland countries heavily dominated by the ''Salafee religious scene'' no traditional religious scholars around i can pretty much say i am in such a situation. i have to rely on the internet and translated books for example.


You join our project:

http://www.euro-sunni.com/

by joining our Shura at this forum:

http://islam.forumup.it/profile.php?...e&mforum=islam

And we will try to put you in touch with Scholars...

Thats the whole point of Euro-Sunni i.e. to connect laymen to Scholars. We have plenty of Hanafees from all over Europe.
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:55 PM   #14
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Asalamu Alaikum,

i am interested in why people are following the Madhhab they follow?

so why are you Hanafi or Maliki or Shafi'i or Hanbali?

(this is not a thread about the legality of following a Madhhab since i personally believe layman must follow one of the Four Madhhahib) i am simply interested in why ''Yo''u are following the Madhhab you follow? what are the characteristics/principles you specifically prefer?, why did you chose the specific Madhhab etc.)
Learned to pray, etc. according to the hanafi madhab while growing, although, frankly, it was more "monkey-see, monkey-do" than actual learning of the masaail, unfortunately. There are not really a lot of any kind of trustworthy scholars in this area of the US (especially going back 5-10 years) so that was not an applicable factor. However, the availability of (a)easy to follow, comprehensive books for laypeople (i.e. Bahishti Zewar) and (b)scholars in other parts of the world (South Africa!!) that were obviously not willing to compromise the religion under any pressure, clinched the matter for me.
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Old 05-11-2010, 01:12 AM   #15
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JazakAllah khayr,
Brother what about people living in Western Europe for example Belgium/Holland/Deutschland countries heavily dominated by the ''Salafee religious scene'' no traditional religious scholars around i can pretty much say i am in such a situation. i have to rely on the internet and translated books for example.


There are several "Hanafi-Deobandi" scholars available in Germany.

I strongly suggest you to join the Euro-Sunni.com Team (see my sig), there you will be able to meet a lot of Ahlu-Sunnah people from different ethnic backgrounds, including converts.

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Old 05-11-2010, 01:26 AM   #16
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Assalamu Alaikum,

As a convert who's basically self taught, I chose the shafi'i madhab for several reasons:

1. There are very few (if any) classically trained, traditional scholars in my area. It's overwhelmingly salafi in orientation, so following the madhab of my area isn't an option.

2. My spouse doesn't follow a madhab. He's a very knowledgeable guy mashaAllah, but I have no desire to become an ibn Hazm groupie. So, following the madhab of my spouse isn't an option.

3. Before I chose a madhab, I had started reading some classical scholars from centuries past. Two that I found very influential were Imam Nawawi and Imam al Ghazali. When I started to learn about madhabs, I found these two were shafi'i, and thought that was as good a reason as any to follow the shafi'i madhab

4. There are a decent amount of shafi'i resources available in english, books on fiqh and scholars available online to answer questions
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Old 05-11-2010, 05:59 AM   #17
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ok i will do that
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Old 05-11-2010, 07:13 AM   #18
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You join our project:

http://www.euro-sunni.com/

by joining our Shura at this forum:

http://islam.forumup.it/profile.php?...e&mforum=islam

And we will try to put you in touch with Scholars...

Thats the whole point of Euro-Sunni i.e. to connect laymen to Scholars. We have plenty of Hanafees from all over Europe.
i joined the Forum today but its all in Italian i cant read Italian bro?
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Old 05-11-2010, 05:17 PM   #19
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i joined the Forum today but its all in Italian i cant read Italian bro?


Its an Italian forum but we use a Private section for our Shura and its called "Euro-Sunni Shura" and all discussions in there are in English.

a) Have you regiestered?
b) Has it been confirmed?
c) Can you see "Euro-Sunni Shura" ?

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Old 05-11-2010, 07:20 PM   #20
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Its an Italian forum but we use a Private section for our Shura and its called "Euro-Sunni Shura" and all discussions in there are in English.

a) Have you regiestered?
b) Has it been confirmed?
c) Can you see "Euro-Sunni Shura" ?

a) yes (AbdullahNL)
b) yes
c) overlooked that one
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