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Old 07-16-2012, 08:42 AM   #1
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Default Would Pakistan be a good place for an American revert to live??
A Pakistani friend of mine that lives in Lahore sent me an email saying that I should consider moving there.

I have the option of retiring in a few months.

He said that it is very inexpensive to live there and recommended that should live in Islamabad.

I mentioned to him that I would like to teach English part time; maybe from my home.

He said that it would be easy to get students.

The one down side is that I really want to learn arabic; and in Pakistan they speak urdu.

But on the plus side, I want to marry a niqabi muslimah; and he told me that there are plenty of niqabi sisters looking for a husband.

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Old 07-16-2012, 09:37 AM   #2
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A Pakistani friend of mine that lives in Lahore sent me an email saying that I should consider moving there.

I have the option of retiring in a few months.

He said that it is very inexpensive to live there and recommended that should live in Islamabad.

I mentioned to him that I would like to teach English part time; maybe from my home.

He said that it would be easy to get students.

The one down side is that I really want to learn arabic; and in Pakistan they speak urdu.

But on the plus side, I want to marry a niqabi muslimah; and he told me that there are plenty of niqabi sisters looking for a husband.

Comments?

Suggestions??
Leaving your country and moving somewhere else is a HUGE sacrifice. You can not even imagine the pain one goes through while leaving its homeland.

Why do you want to leave your homeland? You can practice Islam here in the United States too..

If you wanna move their...its upto you...check it...see how it goes..if it doesn't goes well...then you can return too. Islamabad is one hell of a city! Very peaceful , beautiful city... So there is no harm in trying though...

Best of luck
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Old 07-16-2012, 09:37 AM   #3
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No way.
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Old 07-16-2012, 09:43 AM   #4
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A Pakistani friend of mine that lives in Lahore sent me an email saying that I should consider moving there.

I have the option of retiring in a few months.

He said that it is very inexpensive to live there and recommended that should live in Islamabad.

I mentioned to him that I would like to teach English part time; maybe from my home.

He said that it would be easy to get students.

The one down side is that I really want to learn arabic; and in Pakistan they speak urdu.

But on the plus side, I want to marry a niqabi muslimah; and he told me that there are plenty of niqabi sisters looking for a husband.

Comments?

Suggestions??
I wouldn't go to live in Pakistan if I was you. I have heard too many stories of problems for male reverts if someone wrongly accuses them of going because they want to go for Jihad or just because this suspicion arises.

Better to move to Sharjah in UAE its relatively Islamic whilst also having western conveniences. You can get along in English, but its also a good place to pick up Arabic.
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Old 07-16-2012, 09:50 AM   #5
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The amount of retirement money that I would get per month isn't a lot to live on in America.

So I was try to find a place that my money would go much further and I could live more comfortably.
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:21 AM   #6
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The amount of retirement money that I would get per month isn't a lot to live on in America.

So I was try to find a place that my money would go much further and I could live more comfortably.

Maybe Indonesia/Malaysia? I don't know much about those areas though.
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:32 AM   #7
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Sustainable living. Think small, think yurt. Think minimal, simple, uncluttered, practical. You can live that way anywhere in the world; yes, even in America.
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:34 AM   #8
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The amount of retirement money that I would get per month isn't a lot to live on in America.

So I was try to find a place that my money would go much further and I could live more comfortably.
have you considered Morocco? living is cheap there compared to in America.

Are you white? I have noticed that many North Africans tend to have a natural affinity with people of European ancestry.

Brother are you married?

lol lots of Moroccan women are seeking Western reverts for husbands, but you have to be careful because some of them are untrustworthy women who are just after money.
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:45 AM   #9
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Sustainable living. Think small, think yurt. Think minimal, simple, uncluttered, practical. You can live that way anywhere in the world; yes, even in America.
LOL "yurt"!!

No sister, I don't want to live in a tent.

Plus what muslimah would want to marry me if all I can offer her is a tent?!?!
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:47 AM   #10
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I mentioned to him that I would like to teach English part time; maybe from my home.

He said that it would be easy to get students.

Comments?

Suggestions??
Unless you have some formal training as an English teacher (such as a TEFL certification), I would strongly advise against doing this on moral grounds.

Here in Cambodia a lot of people from the west who come here they say "to make a difference" by teaching English, and they assume they are qualified to do this simply because they are native English speakers.

The fact is, even as a native speaker, you won't know what you need to, in order to teach English from an second language perspective.

The result is often that these students end up wasting valuable time (and money if you are planning to charge them for your time).

Sorry if that sounded overly cynical, but it's something that I see a lot here and it really bugs me.

If you're interested in getting qualified, there are TEFL certification centers in Indonesia you could try. I have a friend who did it quite recently, and I think it only took about 12 weeks.

With regards to making the transition from living in the West to going to a much poorer country, all I can really say is it depends on what kind of person you are, and what's important to you. Some people find it hard to adapt, whereas I'd find it very hard to go back to my previous life.
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:48 AM   #11
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have you considered Morocco? living is cheap there compared to in America.

Are you white? I have noticed that many North Africans tend to have a natural affinity with people of European ancestry.

Brother are you married?

lol lots of Moroccan women are seeking Western reverts for husbands, but you have to be careful because some of them are untrustworthy women who are just after money.
No, I haven't ever been married since I reverted several years ago.

And yes, I'm a blue eyed white guy of Irish descent.
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:52 AM   #12
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LOL "yurt"!!

No sister, I don't want to live in a tent.

Plus what muslimah would want to marry me if all I can offer her is a tent?!?!
Too bad. It is the way to go.
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:57 AM   #13
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i dont get your exact reasons for moving to pakistan, but i would not recommend you to go there. if you want to live within muslims, i say consider muslim neighborhoods in east London.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:01 AM   #14
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Too bad. It is the way to go.
I am sure it would be great in Canada; with all of the forests and such.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:02 AM   #15
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dont get your exact reasons for moving to pakistan, but i would not recommend you to go there. if you want to live within muslims, i say consider muslim neighborhoods in east London.
Isn't London an expensive place to live?
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:07 AM   #16
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It would be a big cultural difference to move from the US to Pakistan. A lot of the things that you may take for granted in the US won't be found in Pakistan. Also, there is always the fear of the US government thinking you're moving there for terrorist training or some other made up lies to create anti-Islamic propaganda. A lot of Muslims are still being held in Guantanamo and around the world without being charged, let alone convicted. It would be better, as someone suggested, to move to the Arabian Gulf states, where a lot of foreigners do travel to so there is safety from suspicion by the US government and there are still great areas for Muslims. The UAE, for example, has about 80% of its population that isn't native, and a lot of that non-native population is also Muslim, especially from either other Gulf states, from the Indian subcontinent, or from southeast Asia. Plus, it is a lot easier and more affordable to go to umrah and hajj from the Gulf countries.

The cost of living is lower than the US (no taxes) but higher than Pakistan.
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:39 AM   #17
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I am sure it would be great in Canada; with all of the forests and such.
It is getting worse as well. People that don't live in Canada don't see it much. Canada isn't the country they all used to think it was.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:05 PM   #18
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Unless you have some formal training as an English teacher (such as a TEFL certification), I would strongly advise against doing this on moral grounds.

Here in Cambodia a lot of people from the west who come here they say "to make a difference" by teaching English, and they assume they are qualified to do this simply because they are native English speakers.

The fact is, even as a native speaker, you won't know what you need to, in order to teach English from an second language perspective.

The result is often that these students end up wasting valuable time (and money if you are planning to charge them for your time).

Sorry if that sounded overly cynical, but it's something that I see a lot here and it really bugs me.

If you're interested in getting qualified, there are TEFL certification centers in Indonesia you could try. I have a friend who did it quite recently, and I think it only took about 12 weeks.

With regards to making the transition from living in the West to going to a much poorer country, all I can really say is it depends on what kind of person you are, and what's important to you. Some people find it hard to adapt, whereas I'd find it very hard to go back to my previous life.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:11 PM   #19
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May Allah Ta'ala make it easy for you. ameen.

Do consider the following roadblocks before you move to another country.
-Language. If you want to marry a native woman and if you want to teach english you will have to learn the local language. You cant teach english without knowing two languages.
-Prepare yourself for culture shock and lower standard of living. Emigration to any part of the world comes with a huge change in way of living. Certainly pakistan and other asian countries you will won't have many things that you get in US. Middle eastern countries might be a better off as they are more developed.
-Difficulty in getting a spouse. People of the sub-continent usually are reluctant to marry a person of different ethnic background. 'White' people are respected, but i m not sure if that respect will extend to tying knots. But things are different in different places.

These are a few things of the top of my head. Other than pakistan, do check out indonesia and middle east and the african countries.

The sure advantage is your income in Dollars. The conversion rate will be good and in places like pakistan even though your pension is low, you will be able to live comfortably. But middle east would be bit costlier. Forget Dubai, abu dhabi, cost of living is too high. I m not sure about Qatar or saudi arabia.

Make sure you have this in mind.
1. Niyyah (intention): Actions are rewarded by their intentions. Make sure you intent this change of place to be closer to Allah, and not just for worldly benefit. In that way you will get the reward for your efforts.
2. Dua. : Make sure you make abundant Dua to Allah Ta'ala. He is our Provider and our Facilitator and there is no Power other than His. Dua is the weapon of the believer. Make use of it.

It will all go fine.
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:47 PM   #20
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Pakistan is not good for Pakistanis then how American revert..

India is better
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