[Hsmrcahr]

I have a question regarding the prayer times in my local Masjid.
The thing is I follow a certain time table, but in my local Masjid there are different times compared to the one i follow at home. So what should I do when it comes to Namaz in Jamaat?

There is a Mosque a bit further away, but there is not five Amaal in that Masjid. They have different Fiqr. So if I go to that Masjid I will surely miss out all the Ijtimai Amaal(Talim, Joila etc). So is my Jamaat accepted, inshaAllah?

I hope somebody with sound knowledge can answer within short time. May Allah reward you.

[VarenHokalos]

Is your Masjid following the Hanafi timings?

The reason for different timings may be because your masjid follows a different madhab.

[autolubitelone]

Assalamu'alaikum

Is your Masjid following the Hanafi timings?

The reason for different timings may be because your masjid follows a different madhab.

From what I know, there is no difference in salah time between Hanafi and other Ahlussunnah. But there is difference in maghrib time between Sunni and Shia. Shia start maghrib around 10-20 minutes after Sunni.

[gundas]

Assalamu'alaikum


From what I know, there is no difference in salah time between Hanafi and other Ahlussunnah. But there is difference in maghrib time between Sunni and Shia. Shia start maghrib around 10-20 minutes after Sunni.

There is a difference between Hanafi ASR tim and the other madhabs.
Asr time for those who follow hanafi madhab will be later when the shadow is 2 times the length plus the original length (simplified explanation).

[Breevereurl]

There is a difference between Hanafi ASR tim and the other madhabs.
Asr time for those who follow hanafi madhab will be later when the shadow is 2 times the length plus the original length (simplified explanation).

Jazak Allahu Khayr, akhee.

Honestly, my reference about other madhab are only articles that written by Shafi'i ulama in my place. Not complete, of course.

[lidersontop]

I have a question regarding the prayer times in my local Masjid.
The thing is I follow a certain time table, but in my local Masjid there are different times compared to the one i follow at home. So what should I do when it comes to Namaz in Jamaat?

There is a Mosque a bit further away, but there is not five Amaal in that Masjid. They have different Fiqr. So if I go to that Masjid I will surely miss out all the Ijtimai Amaal(Talim, Joila etc). So is my Jamaat accepted, inshaAllah?

I hope somebody with sound knowledge can answer within short time. May Allah reward you.

Are you in the UK?

The timetables in the UK do differ (fajr and isha salat's), some are set according to 18 degrees calculation and the other is based on another method

Tell me which one you normally follow and then we can continue insha'allah

[CHEAPCIALISFORYOU]

Are you in the UK?

The timetables in the UK do differ (fajr and isha salat's), some are set according to 18 degrees calculation and the other is based on another method

Tell me which one you normally follow and then we can continue insha'allah

I think similar argument is going on in US as well, I think there is a group of Ulemas who want to change 13degrees to 18 degree (I remember about 12-13 years ago US also used to follow 18 degree calculations for Fajr and Isha, and then Ulemas changed it to 13 degree, and, now they want to change it back). Its going to set backward Fajr Salah times by about 20-25 mins (so if Fajr (13 deg) starts at 4 AM, it will be at 3:40 AM (18 deg)), and set forward the Isha time by 20-25 mins.

[AncewwewBus]

The degrees arguments are as follows (the higher the degree, the earlier the Fajr time and the later the time for Isha):
-18 degrees for both Fajr and Isha: this is what a brother (scholar?) recommended should be applied internationally after his research.
-15 degrees for Isha, 18 degrees for Fajr: this is what people have observed empirically in North America (i.e. they noted the angle when the skies changed colour); this is what the majority of Muftis have recommended.
-12 degrees for Isha, 15 degrees for Fajr: this is what is recommended by the ulama who say that there should be ease and laxity in this issue; I don't know what else they have for supporting this position.

[Dilangfh]

I live in Norway, Oslo. Yes, most of the Musallis and the Imam is Hanafi. Im also a Hanafi.

[Gometesstem]

http://www.wifaqululama.co.uk/18-deg...les-fatwa.html

[ibiDb4uu]

I live in Norway, Oslo. Yes, most of the Musallis and the Imam is Hanafi. Im also a Hanafi.

Well the situation in Norway is somewhat different to the UK. During certain months of the year the time for Isha and Fajr does not happen or is extremely hard due to both prayers happening within a short time.

So different masjids/cities in Norway may use different methods to use for their salat times, this could be the reason your have seen the masjids you have been to having various different salat times.

There are 4-5 different methods which the ulama have provided that can be used during these certain times of the year to calculate your Isha and Fajr.

Bro Colonel has some more experience in this and has been to norway and has some info on this. I will email him and try getting the timetable for you.

[Mymnnarry]

JazakAllah khair !

[herawaq]

I forwarded you query to Brother Colonel Hardstone and here is his reply:

Wasalam,

You need to calculate Salah times based on 18 degrees (University of Karachi) for your locality. When Isha & Fajar don't appear then you you are free to adopt any of the 4-5 methods as discussed and defined by Ulamah and you can choose to pray at any Masjid during those times.

Where Fajar & Esha do appear at 18 degrees and the times are valid:

There is little to no leeway in Fajar times so adopt 18 degrees

In addition to 18 degrees, you can also adopt 15 degrees for Esha as this is the opinion of students of Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) so there is some leeway.

Based on this research you have to judge whether the Salah times are valid and not merely on the basis of your Masjid timetable UNLESS you are sure of the method and degrees the timetable of your local Masjid is based upon.

That leaves the issue of Asar (Hanafi vs Shaf'ae) so majority of the Mosques in Europe (outside of UK) pray at Shaf'ae times and you can also pray at those times with congregation.

There is no difference in Fiqh on Dhohar & Maghrib.

If the Salah times fall within the criteria set by the Ulamah then Salah is valid so more details are needed as to how the Salah times are different to your local Mosque and why?

Jazakullah Khairun

[ZX3URrBH]

I have a question regarding the prayer times in my local Masjid.
The thing is I follow a certain time table, but in my local Masjid there are different times compared to the one i follow at home. So what should I do when it comes to Namaz in Jamaat?

There is a Mosque a bit further away, but there is not five Amaal in that Masjid. They have different Fiqr. So if I go to that Masjid I will surely miss out all the Ijtimai Amaal(Talim, Joila etc). So is my Jamaat accepted, inshaAllah?

I hope somebody with sound knowledge can answer within short time. May Allah reward you.

Dear Brother, Assalaamoalikum

Please note that prayer in Jama'a is more important than the time of the prayer.

Brotherly yours
farook

[sesWaipunsaws]

In addition to 18 degrees, you can also adopt 15 degrees for Esha as this is the opinion of students of Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) so there is some leeway.

There is not a single mosque in UK that adopts 15 or 18 degrees. Most if not all mosques in UK do not follow 18 nor 15 degrees in the summer. It would necessitate that they pray Isha at 1 AM.

They don't follow those degrees when it comes to Isha but they do follow it for Fajr. (that is 18 degrees)

[SergeyLisin]

Dear Brother, Assalaamoalikum

Please note that prayer in Jama'a is more important than the time of the prayer.

Brotherly yours
farook

Sorry bro are you saying that praying your salat in jamaat is more important even if the time has not started for that salat?

[CatLuvkaLover]

There is not a single mosque in UK that adopts 15 or 18 degrees. Most if not all mosques in UK do not follow 18 nor 15 degrees in the summer. It would necessitate that they pray Isha at 1 AM.

They don't follow those degrees when it comes to Isha but they do follow it for Fajr. (that is 18 degrees)

This is what my masjid used for isha:

1 January – 5 March Astronomical Twilight (18°)
6 March – 8 October One Seventh of Night (Suba-Al-Lail)
9 October – 31 December Astronomical Twilight (18°)

[GarryPaterson]

Thank u Fake Sheikh (maybe real Sheikh...hmm)

[Switiespils]

Thank u Fake Sheikh (maybe real Sheikh...hmm)

Definilty Fake but I do have intention someday of becoming a real one insha'allah

[WaicurtaitfuT]

Sorry bro are you saying that praying your salat in jamaat is more important even if the time has not started for that salat?

Dear Brother, Assalaamoalaikum,

It is understood that wherever we have muslims and a mosque in this world, salaat is prayed within the correct period. Some pray at the start of the perio, others later. So long as one is within the agreed upon period, then jama'a is definitely more important.

Brotherly yours
farook