[nerohedfrs]

Syrian widow - Umm Abdullah - saying :

I am talking now to let you know about Bashar and his men

Oh you all people of honor! people of humanity! people of decency! Arabs! Muslims!

I am Umm Abdallah, live in a village of Hums. I have no other sons except Abdallah. After the death of his father, I came to my family to live with.

On 6 May 2011, Friday, 3 pm, my father and mother went to funeral of my cousin, who has been shot martyr by Bashar's. 30 minutes after they left home, I heard gun shooting everywhere, my son start crying, and I started reading Quran and pray Allah saves us. After moments five armed men in black knocked the door hard. I opened the door, they wanted to search the home for arms. I told them there is no arms here.
They went inside, and searched everywhere and destroyed everything, they threatened to slaughter my son. One of the men came closer and pulled off my headscarf. He pulled off my headscarfd! I was alone in the house. They asked me the name of my son, I told them : AbdAllah [Slave /servant of Allah] they told me you are slaves of Bashar. All of you are slaves of AlAsad, slaves of Bashar. I want to tell you, ya Allah, I don't know how to tell....they ripped off the clothes from my body, put cigarettes on my body, and then they raped me. They all raped me. Not one or two..but five...five!

I am saying this for all the world to hear...to know...

Hasbia Allah Wa ni'ma Alwakeel [Allah is my supporter] .. 3 times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhQMy6LB2BQ (sister speaking in niqaab)

[PyncGyncliacy]

In response to the Trimseh Massacre
Shaykh Muhammad Al-Yaqoubi

To the wounded people of Syria!

Today a new massacre took place in Trimseh, Hama, in which hundreds were murdered and severly wounded including women, children and the young and elderly. They were mutilated, slaughtered, and executed by the mercenaries of the regime. 150 tanks and squadrons of bomber helicopters surrounded this smal town and assaulted it with an array of shells and bombs. Then the mobs of the regime broke into the city; the result was families being wiped out, men burnt alive, women raped and children slaughtered with knives. We do not find words which suffice to condemn such a level of savagery and wonder if these people are even humans. Is the regime taking revenge from the Syrian people who revolted against it?

As we offer our condolences to the families of the victim, pray for the martyrs and promise that that people's tears, which shed in grief and sorrow at what they witnessed, shall soon turn into tears of joy and rapture at the regime’s fall, the country’s liberation and the trial of every criminal.

O wounded people!

In exchange for our silence, blood is being spilled and lives are being shattered. Today it is Trimseh, tomorrow it will be another town. Henceforth, we must act not merely condemn. This crime requires us to immediately take the following measures:

First, Plant a smile in place of tears:

We call upon every Syrian citizen to make it for Trimseh and the other affected areas and take as much aid as possible. We understand if some ppeople could not take up arms but we do not understand why every person is not moving, even if empty-handed. People in these areas witnessed a level animalistic brutality the likes of which no one in history has seen; soo what these people need now is to see a smile on a face of a noble man or a hug to comfort a child who have lost his entire family.

Second, up to jihad:

The right response to these massacres is not by statements but rather by arms; iron strikes iron. We do not intend to retaliate from innocent people; rather we intend to protect innocent people. We should defend towns, villages and neighbourhoods and the only means to do so is by volunteering into the Syrian Free Army and providing them with unlimitted support.

Finally, One who keeps silent rather than say the truth is a silent Satan. We call for strikes in all cities for three consecutive days, blockades of major roads and to large scale protests. Do not be a devil; to keep silent now is a crime. We call the people to unite and sacrifice everything to bring down the regime with every possible means.

[Signabeademia]

From Abdullah Ibn Omar (radiya allahu anhuma) he said: The messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم said, I saw a pillar of the book was taken from underneath my pillow and I looked and it was an extending light directed toward Al-shaam. Verily al-iman (the faith), at the time of fitan (turmoil) is in Al-shaam.

May Allah free the people of shaam and raise such people who will unleash justice on the oppressers, ameen

[JulietOreira]

From Abdullah Ibn Omar (radiya allahu anhuma) he said: The messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم said, I saw a pillar of the book was taken from underneath my pillow and I looked and it was an extending light directed toward Al-shaam. Verily al-iman (the faith), at the time of fitan (turmoil) is in Al-shaam.

May Allah free the people of shaam and raise such people who will unleash justice on the oppressers, ameen

Ameen...
Ashamed of myself... could not do anything for the suffering of my fellow brothers & sisters.

[Rememavotscam]

Ameen...
Ashamed of myself... could not do anything for the suffering of my fellow brothers & sisters.

Where are you located? If you're not in Syria, from what I know - it's not your responsibility. Why the guilt? Yes, you do have a responsibility to make dua for them from the depths of your heart, and if you can, send a few bucks their way.

[MyOwnStyle]

Where are you located? If you're not in Syria, from what I know - it's not your responsibility. Why the guilt? Yes, you do have a responsibility to make dua for them from the depths of your heart, and if you can, send a few bucks their way.

Watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=4AInf7w0fg8

[JessiPollo]

Where are you located? If you're not in Syria, from what I know - it's not your responsibility. Why the guilt? Yes, you do have a responsibility to make dua for them from the depths of your heart, and if you can, send a few bucks their way.

Why is it not our responsibility? What kind of attitude is this? Would we have the same attitude if an earthquake happened in our homecountry even though we are not living there?

Didn't Muslims help those who were hit by natural disasters even though they were living in other countries (Indonesia, Pakistan etc) or did they not support the victims during the war in Afghanistan against the Russians?

Ml. Salman Nadwi rightly stated in the Ulama conference, that what is happening in Syria is our responsibility. If we don't commit outselves for their cause our imaan is NAAQIS. He said it is sumply not enough to only perform dua for them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1b2stZ_wa8

[jaydicassdhy]

if you can, send a few bucks their way.

What's the best way to do that, and its there any way to make sure it goes to the right people?

Thanks in advance.

[lovespellszz]

May Allah Ta'ala destroy Bashar and his henchmen. May He avenge the cries of the Madhloomeen. I look forward to the day when Bashar is facing Malakul Maut.

For those Muslims who state that it is not our responsibility would you be saying this if it is was your wife, mother, daughter or sister????? This Ummah is one body and we should feel the pain that our Muslims suffer with every fibre of our body.

14:42 Think not that Allah doth not heed the deeds of those who do wrong. He but giveth them respite against a Day when the eyes will fixedly stare in horror,-

the time will be soon when Bashar will face humiliation in this world and if not then the Aakhirah beckons.

[papadopul]

Why is it not our responsibility? What kind of attitude is this?

Not his responsibility to physically go there and fight, feed people, help, etc .. - as the respected Shaykh Yaqoubi exhorted people to do in his letter.

Would we have the same attitude if an earthquake happened in our homecountry even though we are not living there?

Why don't you go ahead and answer that question yourself? Is it really the same level of responsibility? What if your own neighborhood was attacked or was afflicted with a natural disaster? How would you react? Forget about you and me, how about the leaders of our Ummah react? Now, what if the same thing happened half a world away? What would be the reaction? Not the same .. you see? I gave him practical advise .. so that he actually does *something* rather than sitting around and sulking over something which isn't his direct responsibility. If it is his direct responsibility in the same way as if his own home was attacked - well, that has grave implications for many people. Are you willing to say that?

Didn't Muslims help those who were hit by natural disasters even though they were living in other countries (Indonesia, Pakistan etc) or did they not support the victims during the war in Afghanistan against the Russians?

Yes, they did help. May Allaah reward them. Many people left everything, got up and went to help on the front lines of the disasters. But just because some uber-pious people went above and beyond the call of duty, does that make it obligatory (Fard al-Ayn) upon everyone else to do it?

Ml. Salman Nadwi rightly stated in the Ulama conference, that what is happening in Syria is our responsibility. If we don't commit outselves for their cause our imaan is NAAQIS. He said it is sumply not enough to only perform dua for them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1b2stZ_wa8

Sorry, can't watch videos. So, is it our Responsibility, or our "responsibility" ? A real responsibility is a big thing, and requires big sacrifices. Examples of real responsibilities: Your family is your responsibility, your wife, child, parents .. If they are sick, hungry, or oppressed - you had better drop everything and fix it. That's a Responsibility, something you are personally accountable for. Does this situation fall under the same category? Are we personally responsible for it? Are we obligated to do everything that we can, just as we would for our own family (i.e. person's we are responsible for) ? Or is the extent of our "responsibility" to raise our hands in heart felt dua, feel genuinely bad for them, and send some cash their way?

Define the extent of this "responsibility" we have towards oppressed people in far away lands. Our actions can only be rectified if we have a clear idea of our responsibilities, and knowing the extent to which we are accountable for.

[moohassinny]

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Bro do you think this is the right circumstance for such an argument ? Its not a sin for a Muslims to feel bad that he can't do extra help for other Muslims.

This thread is about a sister who was oppressed in one of the worst ways possible and we are here arguing??

[Alexeric]

For those Muslims who state that it is not our responsibility would you be saying this if it is was your wife, mother, daughter or sister????? This Ummah is one body and we should feel the pain that our Muslims suffer with every fibre of our body.

Oh please, enough with the emotional rhetoric and guilt. Why don't you answer that question yourself? What if, Allaah forbid, it really was someone of *your* household over there? Wouldn't you feel obligated to drop everything and go? But you don't feel that, right? Nor do you feel obligated to do that, right? If it was your women there, would you be spend even one second posting on Sunniforum, or finding the first flight to a neighboring country and arranging to smuggle yourself into Syria. You know why? Because it really *isn't* your wife, mother, or daughter.

Forget about you and me, what about our examples - scholars, mashaikh, imams, etc ... Learn from their example. They're not sulking all day over this, nor are they making their whole community feel guilty for not responding in the same way as if it was "their own mothers and daughters". They make heartfelt dua, they donate from their own pockets, and they encourage their communities to do the same. Then they go about their day fulfilling their local responsibilities, leading salat, teaching the deen, spiritually advising people, etc ... You know why? Because it's not "their mothers and daughters" ... it's not the same thing, and hence not the same level of responsibility.

[priordine]

Nu’man ibn Bashir reported: The Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم said,
“The parable of the believers in their affection, mercy, and compassion for each other is that of a body;
when any limb of it aches, the whole body reacts with sleeplessness and fever.”

[Sahih Muslim, Book 32, Number 6258]

[Aniplinipsync]

Oh please, enough with the emotional rhetoric and guilt. Why don't you answer that question yourself? What if, Allaah forbid, it really was someone of *your* household over there? Wouldn't you feel obligated to drop everything and go? But you don't feel that, right? Nor do you feel obligated to do that, right? If it was your women there, would you be spend even one second posting on Sunniforum, or finding the first flight to a neighboring country and arranging to smuggle yourself into Syria. You know why? Because it really *isn't* your wife, mother, or daughter.

Forget about you and me, what about our examples - scholars, mashaikh, imams, etc ... Learn from their example. They're not sulking all day over this, nor are they making their whole community feel guilty for not responding in the same way as if it was "their own mothers and daughters". They make heartfelt dua, they donate from their own pockets, and they encourage their communities to do the same. Then they go about their day fulfilling their local responsibilities, leading salat, teaching the deen, spiritually advising people, etc ... You know why? Because it's not "their mothers and daughters" ... it's not the same thing, and hence not the same level of responsibility.

Your original comment sounded very flippant and blase about the whole situation, therefore, my response. After now reading your clarification I understand that you are not saying not to do anything but you are requesting as to what the shar'i responsibility is of a Muslim living thousands of miles away.

I hope this clarifies the misunderstanding.

[OlegSan]

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Bro do you think this is the right circumstance for such an argument ?

No, I don't. It's actually quite sad that I instigated this, in this thread. I guess I was a little irked over people insisting that it's our responsibility in the same way and to the same extent if it really were *our* mothers and daughters. Everything I've seen, and every example around me shows that it is not the same thing - so why the guilt?

Its not a sin for a Muslims to feel bad that he can't do extra help for other Muslims.

Sure, in the same way we can feel bad for not performing extra deeds like tahajjud? You're right.

This thread is about a sister who was oppressed in one of the worst ways possible and we are here arguing??

I just read thru the posts .. I think I'm the only person who actually advised the brother to *do* something that is practical for him: Dua from the heart, and if you can - sacrificing your wealth.

Last post.

[Andrew1978]

Last post.

thanks

[elektikaka]

Where are you located? If you're not in Syria, from what I know - it's not your responsibility. Why the guilt? Yes, you do have a responsibility to make dua for them from the depths of your heart, and if you can, send a few bucks their way.

You are wrong from a sharia perspective, according to every madhab that has ever existed. When the Muslim lands are under attack, jihad becomes Fard Ayn (individual obligation) upon everyone in the region. If not enough people fight, then it becomes Fard on those closest to them, etc until this obligation envelopes the whole world. Since not enough people are fighting, and because the lands of the Muslims is considered one land, and they are one Ummah of brothers and sisters, it has become an obligation upon the entire Muslim population and has been ever since we lost even one hand span of Muslim land, centuries ago. It has been centuries since we have regained such regions so if it is not Fard now, when will it be?

See this book here: http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/defence.pdf

[nicegirlflor]

Not his responsibility to physically go there and fight, feed people, help, etc .. - as the respected Shaykh Yaqoubi exhorted people to do in his letter.

It is fard kifaya upon the ummah to help such a people so your comment is baseless from a fiqhi perspective. A person can do what lies in his power. If he can feed people, he does that. If he can perform dua, he does that. If he can send money (which is perhaps more important than presenting himself there) he does that.


Why don't you go ahead and answer that question yourself? Is it really the same level of responsibility? What if your own neighborhood was attacked or was afflicted with a natural disaster? How would you react? Forget about you and me, how about the leaders of our Ummah react? Now, what if the same thing happened half a world away? What would be the reaction? Not the same .. you see? I gave him practical advise .. so that he actually does *something* rather than sitting around and sulking over something which isn't his direct responsibility. If it is his direct responsibility in the same way as if his own home was attacked - well, that has grave implications for many people. Are you willing to say that? Irrelevant, futile questions.
Yes, they did help. May Allaah reward them. Many people left everything, got up and went to help on the front lines of the disasters. But just because some uber-pious people went above and beyond the call of duty, does that make it obligatory (Fard al-Ayn) upon everyone else to do it? Now you are bringing in the issue of fard ayn. Stick to the original topic and your comment. It is about helping your fellow brothers and sisters who are in need of help. This is fard kifaya.

Sorry, can't watch videos. So, is it our Responsibility, or our "responsibility" ? A real responsibility is a big thing, and requires big sacrifices. Examples of real responsibilities: Your family is your responsibility, your wife, child, parents .. If they are sick, hungry, or oppressed - you had better drop everything and fix it. That's a Responsibility, something you are personally accountable for. Does this situation fall under the same category? Are we personally responsible for it? Are we obligated to do everything that we can, just as we would for our own family (i.e. person's we are responsible for) ? Or is the extent of our "responsibility" to raise our hands in heart felt dua, feel genuinely bad for them, and send some cash their way?

Define the extent of this "responsibility" we have towards oppressed people in far away lands. Our actions can only be rectified if we have a clear idea of our responsibilities, and knowing the extent to which we are accountable for. It is fard kifaya i.e. just like the funeral prayer. But if you don't care about fellow Muslims you can stick to your own family members.

[movlabs]

It is fard kifaya upon the ummah to help such a people so your comment is baseless from a fiqhi perspective. A person can do what lies in his power. If he can feed people, he does that. If he can perform dua, he does that. If he can send money (which is perhaps more important than presenting himself there) he does that.

Actually, this was my comment.

Not his responsibility to physically go there and fight, feed people, help, etc .. - as the respected Shaykh Yaqoubi exhorted people to do in his letter.

Originally Posted by vagabond Why don't you go ahead and answer that question yourself? Is it really the same level of responsibility? What if your own neighborhood was attacked or was afflicted with a natural disaster? How would you react? Forget about you and me, how about the leaders of our Ummah react? Now, what if the same thing happened half a world away? What would be the reaction? Not the same .. you see? I gave him practical advise .. so that he actually does *something* rather than sitting around and sulking over something which isn't his direct responsibility. If it is his direct responsibility in the same way as if his own home was attacked - well, that has grave implications for many people. Are you willing to say that?

Irrelevant, futile questions. Not at all, given that it was in response to this comment (that's you btw):

Would we have the same attitude if an earthquake happened in our homecountry even though we are not living there?

Now you are bringing in the issue of fard ayn. Stick to the original topic and your comment. It is about helping your fellow brothers and sisters who are in need of help. This is fard kifaya.

Indeed. Hence why I gave the brother some actionable advice.

It is fard kifaya i.e. just like the funeral prayer. But if you don't care about fellow Muslims you can stick to your own family members.

Thanks for the ad hominem.

I promise, second to last post ...

[g4YthYXx]

You are wrong from a sharia perspective, according to every madhab that has ever existed. When the Muslim lands are under attack, jihad becomes Fard Ayn (individual obligation) upon everyone in the region. If not enough people fight, then it becomes Fard on those closest to them, etc until this obligation envelopes the whole world. Since not enough people are fighting, and because the lands of the Muslims is considered one land, and they are one Ummah of brothers and sisters, it has become an obligation upon the entire Muslim population and has been ever since we lost even one hand span of Muslim land, centuries ago. It has been centuries since we have regained such regions so if it is not Fard now, when will it be?

See this book here: http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/defence.pdf

Aha! An intelligent one comes forth bringing with him books weightier than the collective experience and wisdom of our Ulema.

Do you know that if it becomes fard al-Ayn, then it becomes one of the if not the highest priority obligations in Islam? Do you know that if it is so, one must march light or heavy, one goes regardless of permission from their parents, the debtor goes without the permission of the creditor, the woman without permission from her husband, and so on ...

Did you just implicate countless Ulema, Honorable Mashaikh, Awliyaa, other righteous members of the Ummah of Rasoolullaah saw, and the general 'awaam of open fisq, cowardice, and even the rejection of such a fard al-Ayn (that includes you too buddy)? If that's what you believe, and that's what you just did ... someone please ban him.

Do you believe it is fard al-Ayn, or are you just trying to be emotional, or to bait people into heated comments? If you really do believe it is fard al-Ayn and your hereafter is in question because of not acting upon it - why are you here? Seriously, why tippy-toe on the precipice of making your other ibaadaat baatil if that's what you believe?

Last post, seriously, really, I promi....