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Old 07-16-2012, 12:02 AM   #1
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Default When can you start saying Ramadan Mubarak??
What is the proper etiquette to begin greeting brothers and sisters with "Ramadan Mubarak?

Wait until the first day of Ramadan?

Or can it be used a few days ahead of time?

If so, how many days?
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:42 AM   #2
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Anyone??
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:34 AM   #3
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Salam `Aleykum,

I don't believe there is a specific time for this??? but if you want to wish someone a blessed month then you can do this at the beginning of the month or maybe 1 day before Ramadan.

For example let's say that Ramadan is Sunday, and I work in a company 6 days a week and we have Sunday off, so in other words I won't be able to see my co-workers on the first day so I'd wish them a blessed month on Saturday... 1 day before Ramadan.

it's up to you.
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Old 07-16-2012, 02:38 PM   #4
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Salam `Aleykum,

I don't believe there is a specific time for this??? but if you want to wish someone a blessed month then you can do this at the beginning of the month or maybe 1 day before Ramadan.

For example let's say that Ramadan is Sunday, and I work in a company 6 days a week and we have Sunday off, so in other words I won't be able to see my co-workers on the first day so I'd wish them a blessed month on Saturday... 1 day before Ramadan.

it's up to you.

Does this practise of wishing ramadhan have any sharaee basis, I mean in the practise of Sahaba or salaf or Fuqaha etc or is it a cultural thing?
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Old 07-16-2012, 05:05 PM   #5
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Does this practise of wishing ramadhan have any sharaee basis, I mean in the practise of Sahaba or salaf or Fuqaha etc or is it a cultural thing?
wa `Aleykum al-Salam,

It's not obligatory but it does have a Shar`ee basis which is good manners and wishing your brothers well and strengthening bonds between Muslims and showing good will and wishing others the best to make them happy ect...

^ All of this has Shar`ee basis.

And there is this:

كان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم إذا دخل رجب قال اللهم بارك لنا في رجب و شعبان و بلغنا رمضان

Anas narrated: When Rajab came the Prophet (SAWS) used to say: "O Allah bless this Rajab and Sha`ban and let us receive Ramadan."

So asking Allah to bless the month for you and your brothers isn't odd.
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:31 PM   #6
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wa `Aleykum al-Salam,

It's not obligatory but it does have a Shar`ee basis which is good manners and wishing your brothers well and strengthening bonds between Muslims and showing good will and wishing others the best to make them happy ect...

^ All of this has Shar`ee basis.

And there is this:

كان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم إذا دخل رجب قال اللهم بارك لنا في رجب و شعبان و بلغنا رمضان

Anas narrated: When Rajab came the Prophet (SAWS) used to say: "O Allah bless this Rajab and Sha`ban and let us receive Ramadan."

So asking Allah to bless the month for you and your brothers isn't odd.

brother, nothing above gives a specific basis for wishing some one happy ramadhan at the start of the month. I am looking for any references from our pious predecessor's history (they too had Ramadhans!)- not as an argument but out of interest only.
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:41 PM   #7
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brother, nothing above gives a specific basis for wishing some one happy ramadhan at the start of the month. I am looking for any references from our pious predecessor's history (they too had Ramadhans!)- not as an argument but out of interest only.
I get the feeling you won't accept the Salafi opinion on Mawlid which also has no Shar`ee basis

The Hadith I quoted previously is a strong proof as it shows that you can wish that Allah would bless any month for you and your companions.

I'll get you the Shar`ee basis insha-Allah.

قد جاءكم رمضان شهر مبارك افترض الله عليكم صيامه تفتح فيه أبواب الجنة ويغلق فيه أبواب الجحيم وتغل فيه الشياطين فيه ليلة خير من ألف شهر من حرم خيرها فقد حرم

Abu Huraira (ra) narrated that the Prophet (SAWS) delivered a Sermon to the Sahaba (ra) when Ramadan came, he (SAWS) said: "Ramadan has come to you a Blessed month, and Allah has prescribed for you its Fasting, in it the doors open..."

al-Albani and Ahmad Shakir said Sahih and Suyuti said Hasan.

But the Hadith is not required and wishing that the Muslims be blessed on this blessed month the essence of Islam and can be proven from the narrations of good Akhlaq and morals and kindness and good neighborly relations.
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:56 PM   #8
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I get the feeling you won't accept the Salafi opinion on Mawlid which also has no Shar`ee basis

The Hadith I quoted previously is a strong proof as it shows that you can wish that Allah would bless any month for you and your companions.

I'll get you the Shar`ee basis insha-Allah.

قد جاءكم رمضان شهر مبارك افترض الله عليكم صيامه تفتح فيه أبواب الجنة ويغلق فيه أبواب الجحيم وتغل فيه الشياطين فيه ليلة خير من ألف شهر من حرم خيرها فقد حرم

Abu Huraira (ra) narrated that the Prophet (SAWS) delivered a Sermon to the Sahaba (ra) when Ramadan came, he (SAWS) said: "Ramadan has come to you a Blessed month, and Allah has prescribed for you its Fasting, in it the doors open..."

al-Albani and Ahmad Shakir said Sahih and Suyuti said Hasan.

But the Hadith is not required and wishing that the Muslims be blessed on this blessed month the essence of Islam and can be proven from the narrations of good Akhlaq and morals and kindness and good neighborly relations.

Brother that's a sermon just informing about the importance of the month.
Is there no specific report about common Muslims greeting each other at the beginning of Ramadhan? Even a Daeef one or a historical record even from later generations of Fuqaha/Muhaddithun?
And I am not a Salafi minded as u can guess. Just out of interest.
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:59 PM   #9
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Brother that's a sermon just informing about the importance of the month.
Is there no specific report about common Muslims greeting each other at the beginning of Ramadhan? Even a Daeef one or a historical record even from later generations of Fuqaha/Muhaddithun?
And I am not a Salafi minded as u can guess. Just out of interest.
I can't help you there brother, what you asked needs research.

As for the report I posted above, the Prophet (SAWS) gathered his companions on the first day and told them "Ramadan Mubarak", is this so different than what laypeople say today?

Also when you say Ramadan Mubarak you remind the Muslims of its greatness, and when you say Ramadan Kareem you remind them of its plentiful bounties, this falls under reminding the Muslims:

{Remind them; you are surely a reminder.} [88:21]

A reminder is usually at the beginning of an event or right before it, so you will be rewarded for reminding them.

{O children of Israel, remember the favours I bestowed on you} [2:122]

Also since Ramadan is a blessing then mentioning it to others in any way is rewarding.
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