[nizcreare]

Salaams

Im all for kicking out sectarianism amongst sunnis. However I would like ot know why shaikh nazim isnt allowed to be criticised but salafis can?

Also Id like to know why when discussing sufis we mustnt generalise and should only talk about "real sufis" but when discussing salafis, we can talk about any top **** and harry we met in the mosque and any group who appears the slightest bit salafi

I feel there are some double standards and in Islam we have to be just and love the haqh so have some consistency inshAlah. Im all for unity but if you want unity with haqqanis but not salafis there needs to be a justification as to WHY inshAllah

it seems absurd to me that salafis are criticised based on some guy you met in tehj mosque, but an article on the very leader of the haqqanis showing a contradiction in his predictions get blocked.

Barak Allahu feek

[eljugadordepoquer]

for example "the deviance of doctor zakir naik" has been left in full swing but shaikh nazims false prediction thread was blocked as soon as it was raised

[Grewlybreekly]

Because everyone is a hidden haqqani here

Shaikh Haqqani is a Shaikh of thousands of people. Wrong predictions dont mean that the person is wrong. A Saudi Alim has made prediction that Israel will be destroyed in 2012. And im sure it wont happen. So this makes the saudi alim wrong?

Please post constructive things and leave these nonconstructive matters.

[skupaemauto]

Because everyone is a hidden haqqani here

Shaikh Haqqani is a Shaikh of thousands of people. Wrong predictions dont mean that the person is wrong. A Saudi Alim has made prediction that Israel will be destroyed in 2012. And im sure it wont happen. So this makes the saudi alim wrong?

Please post constructive things and leave these nonconstructive matters.

shaikh nazims followers claim he has secret hidden knowledge, salafis dont.

And this discussion is highloighting some SERIOUS double standards, I cant think of anything more important to post, unless you think I should just leave you guys to smash salafis whilst defending any charlatan sufi claimant

How can you expect anyone to follow your dawah when they see such blazingly obvious contradictions? Either strive for unity and avoid debate or be levelled and balanced and fair in your criticisms. Last time i was here tehre were 5 anti salafi threads just on the top page of threads. One shaikh nazim thread gets bumped and its immediately locked. Im not saying locking it was wrong, just taht surely the same shoudl be applied to the salafi bashing threads OR both groups should be allowed to be criticised. unles syou guys feel you are closer to haqqanis than to salafis?

[Smittoh]

p.s. I would be in support of a TOTAL ban on critising any sunnis whether they be on the barelwi/haqqani side or the salafi side. but I dont feel its fair to allow open season on salafis whilst banning any criticism of extreme soofis (I notice hamza yousuf thread was also locked btw)

Im just asking for some consistency or at least an explanation as to WHY there appears to be double stadards

[buchmausar]

there was nothing tp discuss in the shaikh nazim thread. You said two months left and you put forward your challenge finish. Why let people say all kinds of things about someone?

You told us shaikh nazim is wrong okay hes wrong. Good. Whos defending him?

You like watching wrestling dont you?

[Nupbeaupeteew]

why block teh thread? Why wanst the "deviance of zakir naik" thread blocked? Why do salafi bashing threads reach over 7 pages? Why isnt your last post applied to salafis?

people who let bias influence their position, with no logical reason to back it up, should feel satisified with being on teh side of falsehood

if we are trefuting devaince, i think haqqanis would be high up on the list so i would imagine there is lots to be discussed if we are appointing ourselves as judge and jury of the muslims

for the record haqqanis consider you wahhabi deviants so sucking up to them wont gain you anything, they will only be happy when you follow their way

[pooncophy]

With due respect the follower of Haqqani followers do not pose any challange. Most do not bother with their wierd claims where as the lamadhabist are calculating and practicies taqiyah just like the Shias!! One doesn't need to be brain scientist to figure out the tactics adopted by the lamadhabist!! As for contridiction perhaps you ought to start with Taqiyah Islamiiic channels and in their teleevengilical tactics!!

[OccabsLam]

care to back up any of those claims brother?

Salafis do a lot of cooperation with deobandis and even have a signed agreement with you guys. When did haqqanis ever do anything with deobandis except warn against you as wahhabis?

Your wishing to shut down a channel that does a lot of good

in what way are they doing taqiyah?

I think your bias is clouding your judgement akhi. Think logically.

[Sandvikla]

shaikh nazims followers claim he has secret hidden knowledge, salafis dont.

And this discussion is highloighting some SERIOUS double standards, I cant think of anything more important to post, unless you think I should just leave you guys to smash salafis whilst defending any charlatan sufi claimant

How can you expect anyone to follow your dawah when they see such blazingly obvious contradictions? Either strive for unity and avoid debate or be levelled and balanced and fair in your criticisms. Last time i was here tehre were 5 anti salafi threads just on the top page of threads. One shaikh nazim thread gets bumped and its immediately locked. Im not saying locking it was wrong, just taht surely the same shoudl be applied to the salafi bashing threads OR both groups should be allowed to be criticised. unles syou guys feel you are closer to haqqanis than to salafis?

The thing is trying not to say something about an individual . When one goes around Salafi bashing one do not need necessarily to attack an individual .They can argue the whole cognition of salafism.

Where as when one goes bashing an individual like Sheikh Nazim Haqqani we put our own selves in potential negative territory .

Better to leave the old man alone. I personally don't know what to think of him and prefer to stay silent. People misinterpret , Its better to think the best of a fellow Muslim . Allah knows best .

I saw the video and have to say even if your a skeptic on the timing he sure was spot on when it comes to analysis . He has someone advising him on world politics and economy ?