[cristmiff]

It's sad when we see Muslims serving halaal food but have a bar in the restaurant.

And what about Muslim airlines which serve food which is "halaal" but serve alcohol. Yet have the Qibla on the TV screen. And fly mainly to Muslim countries. And start off the cabin presentation with "Bismillah...". What a shame. Good business means more money and offering alcohol attracts more customers. But I'm sure a non Muslim could resist a drink during the flight if he tried? Then the Muslim airline could stop serving it!

[Diortarkivoff]

It's sad when we see Muslims serving halaal food but have a bar in the restaurant.

And what about Muslim airlines which serve food which is "halaal" but serve alcohol. Yet have the Qibla on the TV screen. And fly mainly to Muslim countries. And start off the cabin presentation with "Bismillah...". What a shame. Good business means more money and offering alcohol attracts more customers. But I'm sure a non Muslim could resist a drink during the flight if he tried? Then the Muslim airline could stop serving it!

Why airlines should stop serving it? Airlines aren't 'Muslim' or 'Christian' ...Airlines MUST be secular , sister. Their owners however are with religious background etc ..

Muslims must expand their businesses .... and in doing so ..they will have to care for the demands of non-Muslims customers...Nothing wrong in it,Inshallah!

[mortgrhhh]

Why airlines should stop serving it? Airlines aren't 'Muslim' or 'Christian' ...Airlines MUST be secular , sister. Their owners however are with religious background etc ..

Muslims must expand their businesses .... and in doing so ..they will have to care for the demands of non-Muslims customers...Nothing wrong in it,Inshallah!

Muslims must not sell alcohol. Its simple.

Those who do may make some short term profits but they loose more in the long term in more than one way.

[VUzgOhgv]

It is sad that many Arabian Gulf airlines serve alcohol without reservation but the crappy Pakistan International Airlines is still leaps and bounds better since it doesn't serve alcohol.

As for machine-slaughtered meat, that is another story. I would abstain from eating any meat items on international airlines, the only exception being PIA and only when it departs from Pakistan.

[neniajany]

Muslims must not sell alcohol. Its simple.

Those who do may make some short term profits but they loose more in the long term in more than one way.

Not only selling, but even transporting it, serving it - even having it served!

"Rasoolullah cursed ten people in connection with wine: the wine-presser, the one who has it pressed, the one who drinks it, the one who conveys it, the one to whom it is conveyed, the one who serves it, the one who sells it, the one who benefits from the price paid for it, the one who buys it, and the one for whom it is bought."

[IdomeoreTew]

The one who firmly believes that rizq comes only from ALlah SWT wont adopt haram means to earn, saying to attract non-muslims, this and that. Every single treasure is in hands of Allah SWT alone and He SWt is the controller of the hearts of people and He SWT can inspire people to enter one's shop or flight which doesnt go with haram things. When Muslims go behind the creations to please them, then Allah SWT removes respect from the people's heart and make them dependent in the people while the one who tries to please Allah SWT, Allah SWT exalts him in the sight of His creations and make him independent of people. Allah SWT is the giver of honor and dishonor. This I heard in a lecture.

As far as alcohol, it was reported by Anas, a Companion of the Prophet, our beloved Prophet said:

Allah’s curse falls on ten groups of people who deal with alcohol.

The one who distils it;

The one for whom it has been distilled;

The one who drinks it;

The one who transports it;

The one for whom it has been brought;

The one who serves it;

The one who sells it;

The one who utilises the money from it;

The one who buys it and the one who buys it for someone else.

Allahu alam

[Intockatt]

Brother Auzer

Welcome to the forum. hope u stay and learn the true deen from many amazing people on this forum.

Muslims are not secular nor muslims can serve alcohol speacially when u have the power of running an airlines. profit is not worth breaking Allah's Rules.

[Njxatsbf]

What also made me shudder was a Muslim airline was serving alcohol where the departure and arrival cities were Muslim; thinking the "rule" was one of the cities would be non Muslim (e.g. Paris to Amman) for the airline to serve that filth. On board a Muslim to Muslim city flight the majority of passengers will be Muslim so why the alcohol?

Is an air hostess a suitable job for a Muslimah provided she wears hijab? What do they wear on Iran Air, Saudi Airlines and Pakistani Airways?

[drugstore]

What also made me shudder was a Muslim airline was serving alcohol where the departure and arrival cities were Muslim; thinking the "rule" was one of the cities would be non Muslim (e.g. Paris to Amman) for the airline to serve that filth. On board a Muslim to Muslim city flight the majority of passengers will be Muslim so why the alcohol?

Is an air hostess a suitable job for a Muslimah provided she wears hijab? What do they wear on Iran Air, Saudi Airlines and Pakistani Airways?

Hijab is not observed on Saudi or Pakistani airlines, even on domestic flights, even within Saudi Arabia (e.g. Dammam to Jeddah).

[Grapappytek]

Why airlines should stop serving it? Airlines aren't 'Muslim' or 'Christian' ...Airlines MUST be secular , sister. Their owners however are with religious background etc ..

Muslims must expand their businesses .... and in doing so ..they will have to care for the demands of non-Muslims customers...Nothing wrong in it,Inshallah!

Bro, its not about expanding our business. Its about obeying Allahs laws. We're not allowed to serve alcohol, and thats that. Doesn't matter if we serve it to Muslims or non-muslims, its a sin either way, and the money made through it is haram.

[DialOne]

It is sad that many Arabian Gulf airlines serve alcohol without reservation but the crappy Pakistan International Airlines is still leaps and bounds better since it doesn't serve alcohol.

As for machine-slaughtered meat, that is another story. I would abstain from eating any meat items on international airlines, the only exception being PIA and only when it departs from Pakistan.

As far as I know, all food served in PIA airlines is halal, doesn't matter where it departs from.

[11Pecepebra]

As far as I know, all food served in PIA airlines is halal, doesn't matter where it departs from.

What I have been told is that when an airline is leaving from a non-Muslim destination, they supply it with the generic "halal" meat, which mostly means machine slaughtered or that meat which is imported from South America and is labelled halal (as is the case in the Middle East). So, there's no differentiation between meat that is hand slaughtered by a Muslim with the tasmiyah recited upon it (undoubtedly halal), machine slaughter where tasmiyah is said but dozens to hundreds of chickens are killed using a machine on the single tasmiyah (haraam), or meat slaughtered by hand in South America by non-Muslims which is labelled halal (haraam). Some Arabs and Arab-inclined scholars say that the latter two are also permissible, but many of us, especially non-Shafi'is, have a problem with both of them.

Although the latter may not be the case everywhere, especially where there is a high number of Muslims in a non-Muslim country who do not accept machine slaughtered meat. I am not sure but I think that may be the case in the UK.

[PaulRyansew]

Everyone knows about alcohol. This is getting mindnumbbingly sychophantic.

How about GM foods? Artificial cancer causing colouring, flavoring, sweetners, packaging, fertilizers, synthetic foods, microwaved radiation, chemical additive, MSGs - all proven to contribute to cancer ?

Halal and Haraam have become reduced to alcohol and meat? Within this is the irony that most meat is not even halal, as many mass slaughtering methods are just profiteering sidesteps.

WOW...its no wonder there is a Mcdonalds in Mecca! Thats an Oxymoron. McDonalds in Mecca

Can we MOVE on from alcohol, and not ignore the health timebomb (diabetes, cancer, osteoperosis) about to inflict the majority of muslims living off ****.