[OnerePeepsy]

The Story of Tha'labah

it would b nice to post here all links of mufti hussain about fabricated hadeeth...

[unsamiSlini]

The Story of Bilal

One saying i've heard, and is very famous is, "the scholars of my Ummah are like the Prophets of Bani Isra'il", Hafidh Sakhawi says, "our Shaykh (ibn Hajar) and those before him, Damiri and Zakarakshi, 'It has no basis.

Just to add more scholars name who agree with the grading of this hadith as fabricated : Ibn hajar(rh),Imam suyuti(rh).Mulla ali qari(rh), imam shawqani(rh).

Another popular one which is also known as hadith: "Hub al-Watan e min al-Iman " Love of Country is part of Faith (Iman)". Allamah saghani(rh) and Mulla ali qari(rh) said among the muhaddithin, this statement has no basis.

Hadith regardiong eating salt:
Start eating with salt and finish also with salt, cause its medicine of 70 illness Imam bayhaqi,ibn jawzi,ibn qayyim,imam suyuti, allamah ibn arraq (rh) all said this one is fabricated. There is also a similar version:
The person who takes salt before and after eating, he is save from 360 desease imam suyuti and ibn arraq(rh) said this is also fabricated.

Some details about Salt :

Salt and Sunnah

Sunnah way of cutting nails:

This is not a sunnah however, it is preferable.

Opinion of ulama regarding this practise

[Malinguenem]

The Story of Bilal

But make sure you read what Hadrat Mufti Husain sahib mentioned:

This is a heavily disputed narration amongst the muhaddithin.

You have Hafiz Ibn Hajr, Adh-Dhahabi, Mulla Ali al-Qari, Ibn al-Arraq etc all classifying it as a fabrication, while Allamah Subki etc classifed it as hasan!
I go with the first, but you will find many taking Allamah Subki's view.

As Ahmed al-Ghumari mentioned "Ibn Hajr will never classify a narration as a fabrication unless its spuriousness is clear like the sun at midday". (al-Mughir)

[fujitsusi]

But make sure you read what Hadrat Mufti Husain sahib mentioned:

aww that why i quote the whole thread.
"The ink of a scholar is more holy than the blood of a martyr" Imam sakhawi,Zarqani,Mulla ali qari(rh) said these arent words of prophet(sw). Zarqani(rh) said Its most probabely statement of hasan al basri(rh).

Al maqasid(pg.377) Mukhtasarul maqasid(pg.172), Al athrar(pg.207) Al fawaid(2/369)
Doing fiqr for a hour, is better than 60-70 year ibadah. some says its athar of ulama only and not any hadith (Mulla ali qari(rh)´s al athrar pg.97).

sh.albani(rh)said its mawdo.

The story of conversation with Allah and tashahhud

[astefecyAvevy]

Assalam o alaykum,

Imam Abd al-Hayy Lakhnawi (may Allah have mercy on him) writes in Al-Athar al-Marfu'ah,

الآثار المرفوعة ج:1 ص:45
ومنها ما يذكرونه عند ذكر السماع المحمدي إنه يسمع صلاة من يصلي عليه وإن كان نائيا من قبره بلا واسطة وهذا باطل لم يثبت برواية بل الثابت خلافه فقد قال النبي من صلي علي عند قبري سمعته ومن صلى علي نائيا أي بعيدا وكل الله بها ملكا يبلغني وكفى أمر دنياه وآخرته وكنت له شفيعا وشهيدا يوم القيامة أخرجه البيهقي في شعب الإيمان وأبو الشيخ في كتاب الثواب والعقيلي في كتاب الضعفاء وله شواهد بسط الكلام فيها السيوطي في اللآلئ المصنوعة وابن عراق في تنزيه الشريعة
“One of them is what they mention while narrating the prophetic hearing that he hears salutation of one who sends blessings to him without any mediation though the person is far away. This is untrue not supported by any tradition, rather the otherwise is proved. The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said: 'One who sends blessings to me near my grave I hear it, and one who sends blessings to me from far away place, Allah appoints angel who conveys it me, it will suffice him for his world and hereafter, I will intercede him on the Day of Judgment'. Narrated by al-Bayhaqi in Shu’b al-Iman, Abu al-Shaykh in Kitab al-Thawab and al-Uqayli in Kitab al-Zu’afa. This hadith was narrated by many other sources as well; it was more elaborated by al-Suyuti in al-La’ali al-Masnu’ah and Ibn Iraq in Tanzih al-Shar’iah.”

One such fabricated narration is found in Dalail al-Khayrat, Anis al-Jalis, and Jala’ al-Ifham.

[WXQMQFIr]

The needle of Sayyida Aisha and smile of Sayyidina Muhammad

Assalam o alaykum,

'Allamah Sarfaraz Khan Safdar (may Allah have mercy on him) mentions in Itmam al-Burhan 3:46 that this narration has no basis. He quotes 'Allamah Abd al-Hay Lukhanawi (may Allah have mercy on him) as follow,

الآثار المرفوعة ج:1 ص:44
ومنها ما يذكره الوعاظ عند ذكر الحسن المحمدي أنه في ليلة من الليالي سقطت من يد عائشة إبرته ففقدت فالتمستها ولم تجد فضحك النبي وخرجت لمعة أسنانه فأضاءت الحجرة ورأت عائشة بذلك الضوء إبرته هذا وإن كان مذكورا في معارج النبوة وغيره من كتب السيرالجامعة للرطب واليابس فلا يستند بكل ما فيها إلا النائم والناعس ولكنه لم يثبت رواية ودراية
"One of these lies is what the preachers mention while narrating the Prophet’s charm that one night Sayyida Ayisha (may Allah be pleased with her) lost her needle, so looked for it and could not find it until the Holy Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) laughed and burst the radiance of his teeth which lighted the chamber and Ayisha searched her needle in its light. This although is mentioned in Ma’arij al-Nubuwwah and most books of siyar that combines both proper and improper (dry and fresh), therefore none will regard it as proof except a person fast asleep or one who is drowsy but it is neither verified by narration nor by practicality”

[Al-Athar al-Marfu’a, 1:44-45]

Also 'Allamah Sayyid Sulayman Nadwi (may Allah have mercy on him) writes in Sirat al-Nabi 3:166 that this narration is a clear-cut lie.

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ghlight=needle

[HornyMolly]

Assalam o alaykum,

It was narrated by Sayyiduna ‘Ali (may Allah be pleased with him):

“The Holy Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said: Do not tell lies about me. Whoever tells lies about me, let him enter the Fire.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, 106).

Narrated Salama (may Allah be pleased with her): I heard the Holy Prophet saying,

"Whoever (intentionally) ascribes to me what I have not said then (surely) let him occupy his seat in Hell-fire." (Sahih al-Bukhari, 109).

This thread is for posting commonly mentioned fabricated (mawdu) ahadith that are narrated in lectures or books, etc.

when i first read this, i thought to myself he is surely not suggesting these are fabricated. lol...

* sighs with pity due to an obvious lack of brain matter *

[nabsgood]

Assalam o alaykum,

Those narrations that talk about age of the world are fabricated as declared by Mulla Ali Qari, ‘Allamah Qastallani, ‘Allamah ibn al-Athir and ‘Allamah ibn al-Jawzi (may Allah have mercy on them) and mentioned to me by Mufti Hussain Kadodia.

Mulla Ali Qari (may Allah have mercy on him) writes,

“... and among them [the rules] is the opposition of the narration to the explicit text of the Qur'an, such as the narration that the age of the World is 7000 years and we are in the seventh thousand and this narration is clear-cut lie.” (Mawduat al-Kabir, p.118)

[neonasafluni]

78 - Love of this world (dunia) is the root of all evil. Fabricated; "Ahadeeth Al-Qasaas" by ibn Taymiyah (7), "Al-Asraar Al-Marfoo'a" (1/163), and "Tazkirat Al-Mawdoo'at" (173)


I have read this in one book written by Mufti Taqi Usmani saab.
What should a laymen like me do ??

[dHXaE2h9]

Source : http://www.banuri.edu.pk/node/87
Author : Mufti Yusuf Abdur Razzaq ( son of Dr. Abdur Razzaq Iskandar Hafidhahullah )

One such fabrication is common in Urdu language

”اے میرے بندے! ایک تیری چاہت ہے اور ایک میری چاہت ہے، اگر تو میری چاہت پر اپنی چاہت کو قربان کردے تو میں تیری چاہت میں تیری کفایت کروں گا اور ہوگا وہی جو میں چاہوں گا۔ اور اگر تو میری چاہت پر اپنی چاہت کو قربان نہ کرے‘ تو میں تم کو تیری چاہت میں تھکا دونگا اور ہوگا وہی جو میں چاہوں گا“۔

Translation is :

"O my slave, there is your intention, and there is my intention , if you sacrifice your intentions over mine, then I will help in your intentions, and only that what is my intention will happen. And if you do not sacrifice your intentions over mine, then I will tire you in pursuit of what you intend... and only that will happen what I like."


Just to add, there are different versions of this fabrication , this is the shortest one. Read the Article above for research over it. I've been in pursuit of this fabrication since 2000, when it became popular with the song of a Pakistani Singer "Jawwad Ahmad".

I have heard this so many times and they say its HADITH QUDSI ...
how can there be some disagreement on hadith qudsi ?? :S

[Luisabens]

What is the stance on Israeli narrations? There are many "Israeli Hadith Qudsi" if you want to call them that...

[fameintatenly]

What is the stance on Israeli narrations? There are many "Israeli Hadith Qudsi" if you want to call them that...

i ve no idea about this.. "israeli hadith qudsi " new term for me ..

[denSmumbSes]

What is the stance on Israeli narrations? There are many "Israeli Hadith Qudsi" if you want to call them that...

Generally with Isra'iliyat, two things have to be checked:
1- The chain of the narration, as there have been instances of where forgeries were attributed to Wahb and others
2- The soundness and accuracy of the meaning of the narration ie. does it contain any issues contrary to our accepted and proven beliefs.

Even if both these are ok, excessive quoting of such narrations isn't advised.
The Nur and Barakah is in the words of Nabi .

[DoctorNelsonOnten]

78 - Love of this world (dunia) is the root of all evil. Fabricated; "Ahadeeth Al-Qasaas" by ibn Taymiyah (7), "Al-Asraar Al-Marfoo'a" (1/163), and "Tazkirat Al-Mawdoo'at" (173)


I have read this in one book written by Mufti Taqi Usmani saab.
What should a laymen like me do ??

make sure that mufti saab mentioned it as a statement and not a hadith. Cause the meaning of that fabricated hadith may be correct.

[googlopharm]

Assalam o alaykum,

Mulla Ali Qari (may Allah have mercy on him) writes that there is a fabricated narration stating that 'language of people of the Paradise will be Pashto'.

[yurawerj]

i'd appreciate some confirmation on a hadith.

this particular one deals with the prophet(pbuh) in the cave with abu bakr (upon escaping the meccan mushriks), about how a spider spun a web so that the mushriks near the entrance (2 from memmory) couldn't find them. i've read this in pretty much every single biography of the prophets life i've had the chance to read.

i've also read numerously that this is weak or fabricated or something.

could anyone please confirm? is there different opinions on this or something?

[2puO4Rhf]

This is a slippery slope because very often scholars have identified a Hadeeth as Fabricated and others have found and proved it not to be.

Instead of not trying to quote Fabrications, a better and easier approach is to quote Authentic Ahadeeth.

[Abnorttrano]

i'd appreciate some confirmation on a hadith.

this particular one deals with the prophet(pbuh) in the cave with abu bakr (upon escaping the meccan mushriks), about how a spider spun a web so that the mushriks near the entrance (2 from memmory) couldn't find them. i've read this in pretty much every single biography of the prophets life i've had the chance to read.

i've also read numerously that this is weak or fabricated or something.

could anyone please confirm? is there different opinions on this or something?

رواها الإمام أحمد (3241) عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ رضي الله عنهما فِي قَوْلِهِ تعالى : (وَإِذْ يَمْكُرُ بِكَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا لِيُثْبِتُوكَ) قَالَ : تَشَاوَرَتْ قُرَيْشٌ لَيْلَةً بِمَكَّةَ فَقَالَ بَعْضُهُمْ : إِذَا أَصْبَحَ فَأَثْبِتُوهُ بِالْوَثَاقِ يُرِيدُونَ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ . وَقَالَ بَعْضُهُمْ : بَلْ اقْتُلُوهُ . وَقَالَ بَعْضُهُمْ : بَلْ أَخْرِجُوهُ . فَأَطْلَعَ اللَّهُ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ نَبِيَّهُ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَلَى ذَلِكَ فَبَاتَ عَلِيٌّ عَلَى فِرَاشِ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ تِلْكَ اللَّيْلَةَ ، وَخَرَجَ النَّبِيُّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ حَتَّى لَحِقَ بِالْغَارِ ، وَبَاتَ الْمُشْرِكُونَ يَحْرُسُونَ عَلِيًّا يَحْسَبُونَهُ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ، فَلَمَّا أَصْبَحُوا ثَارُوا إِلَيْهِ ، فَلَمَّا رَأَوْا عَلِيًّا رَدَّ اللَّهُ مَكْرَهُمْ ، فَقَالُوا : أَيْنَ صَاحِبُكَ هَذَا ؟ قَالَ : لَا أَدْرِي . فَاقْتَصُّوا أَثَرَهُ ، فَلَمَّا بَلَغُوا الْجَبَلَ خُلِّطَ عَلَيْهِمْ ، فَصَعِدُوا فِي الْجَبَلِ فَمَرُّوا بِالْغَارِ ، فَرَأَوْا عَلَى بَابِهِ نَسْجَ الْعَنْكَبُوتِ ، فَقَالُوا : لَوْ دَخَلَ هَاهُنَا لَمْ يَكُنْ نَسْجُ الْعَنْكَبُوتِ عَلَى بَابِهِ ، فَمَكَثَ فِيهِ ثَلَاثَ لَيَالٍ .


Narrated by Imam Ahmad (3241) from Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him), with regard to the verse (interpretation of the meaning): “And (remember) when the disbelievers plotted against you (O Muhammad) to imprison you” [al-Anfaal 8:30]. He said: Quraysh met together one night in Makkah. Some of them said: When morning comes, imprison him in chains – meaning the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Some said, No, kill him; and others said, No, drive him out. Allaah informed His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) of that, so ‘Ali slept in the bed of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) that night, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) went out and hid in the cave. The mushrikoon spent the night lying in wait for ‘Ali, thinking that he was the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). When morning came, they pounced on him, and when they saw ‘Ali, Allaah thwarted their plot. They said, Where is that friend of yours? He said, I do not know. So they set out after him and when they reached the mountain, they were confounded. They climbed up the mountain and passed by the cave, and saw a spider’s web over its entrance. They said, If anyone had entered here, the spider would not have spun a web over the entrance. And he stayed there for three nights.


وقد اختلف العلماء في هذا الحديث ، فحسن إسناده الحافظ ابن حجر في "فتح الباري" وابن كثير في "البداية والنهاية" 3/222

The scholars differed concerning this hadeeth. Its isnaad was classed as hasan by al-Haafiz ibn Hajar in Fath al-Baari and by Ibn Katheer in al-Bidaayah wa’l-Nihaayah (3/222)

[angelxmagic]

Assalam o alaykum,

Imam Abd al-Hayy Lakhnawi (may Allah have mercy on him) writes in Al-Athar al-Marfu'ah,

الآثار المرفوعة ج:1 ص:41
ومنها ما يذكرونه من أن النبي يحضر بنفسه في مجالس وعظ مولده عند ذكر مولده وبنوا عليه القيام عند ذكر المولد تعظيما وإكراما وهذا أيضا من الأباطيل لم يثبت ذلك بدليل ومجرد الاحتمال والإمكان خارج عن حد البيان وأمثال هذه القصص التي ذكرناها كثيرة تذكرها وعاظ الفضل المحمدي والمولد الأحمدي مع اختلاقها وعدم ثبوتها ظنا منهم أن في ذكر جلالة القدر المحمدي ثوابا عظيما وفضلا جسيما غافلين عما يترتب من الإثم العظيم على من كذب على النبي عليه
"One of them is what they mention that the Holy Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) attends personally the functions held on his birthday when his birth is mentioned. Based on this, they started standing while mentioning his birth as respect and honour. This is also baseless not supported by any proof. Mere possibility and likelihood is out of explanation. Such stories abound which are mentioned by the sermonizers of the Prophetic excellence and his birth despite these stories being fabricated and false. They think that mentioning the exalted position of the Prophet has great rewards and enormous virtue; they are unaware of the great sin that will follow in associating lie to the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace)."

[fiettariaps]

Assalam o alaykum,

Mulla Ali Qari (may Allah have mercy on him) writes that there is a fabricated narration stating that 'language of people of the Paradise will be Pashto'.

this is funny...

lengths people can go to..