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Is Dawat-e-Islami Well-Organized?


Dozens of Majalis (committees) have been formed to enhance the madani work of Dawat-e-Islami. There is a Markazi Majlis-e-Shoora (Central Board of Executives) that is managing all the other Majalis. It is the great vision of Ameer-e-Ahle sunnat that Makrazi Majlis-e-Shoora has set up a network of hundreds of majalis. Generally, a Majlis-e-Mushawrat (consultation committee) may have 3-5 islamic brothers.


Each mosque is taken care by a majlis, and that is called majlis-e-mushawrat of that specific mosque.


5 mosques together make one Halqa (circle), which are taken care by a majlis-e-mushawrat of that halqa.


5 halqa together make on I'laqa (area), which are managed by a majlis-e-mushawrat of that i'laqa.


5 i'laqa make one Tahseel. Those i'laqa are controlled by majlis-e-mushawrat of that tahseel.


3 tahseels form a Divisoin, which are handled by majlis-e-mushawrat of that division.


All divisions, depending on the size of a province, together make one Sooba (province), which are run by majlis-e-mushawrat of that sooba.


All sooba (provinces) in a certain country are taken care by a majlis-e-mushawrat of that country.


A majalis-e-mushawrat of a certain country is managed by Markazi Majlis-e-Shoora. Thus, Markazi Majlis-e- Shoora take care of world Dawat-e-Islami.



Currently in Pakistan alone, under this chain system, about 50,000 majalis-e-mushawrat, there is a majalis-e-mushawrat of every masjid which means there are 50 000 Masjids in pakistan which are run by Dawat-e-islami. The same system can be seen for islamic sisters. With the grace of Allah almighty, Dawat-e-Islami is approaching door to door and mosque to mosque. It has made its deep roots to reach the general public. In short, it is working in a well-organized way with the madani efforts of learned islamic brothers.

[RerRibreLok]

MashAllah, I did see one of their majalis in Rawalpindi markaz. However with no offence at all, my first impression was that this is exactly same as Jamaat At Tabligh.

May Allah Accept, Help and Prosper those who are doing the work of his deen whereever and in whichever form, Amin Dua of Maulana Madni Desai, Muhtamim Madresah Inaamiya

[ionitiesk]

Barelwi version of Tablighi Jamat ... or competitor should I say.

[RerRibreLok]

I didnt say that out right in the face, cuz Br Ahl Sunnah might take it offensive. But it sure is true, there was a time where Indo-Pak knew nothing but Tablighi Jamat reviving the Mussallees, and I remember at that time, me being one of the culprits as well.. would say that these Tableghis come from every nick and corner to call us to masajid.

But now when I went there.. I could see all these bright green turbans, also refered as Jannati Totay(parrots). The fact is that Dawat e Islami has made a uniform, which I disagree with. I love any work that is for Allah's sake, but in their markaz all I would see was kurta, shalwar and green amama..

Tableeghi jamat, well what to say.. all my youth I disliked them cuz they didnt even leave me in Regina a secluded place way up in Canada. but in the end I married into a family that has its roots in Tableeghi Jamaat. Alhamdulillah they are not the blind following hardcore tableeghis... rather the hikmat bearing, funny and evolving tableeghis. I didnt even know how popular (my inlaws) they were in the circles of tableeghis untill after the marriage.

Nonetheless, I say again..

May Allah Accept, Help and Prosper those who are doing the work of his deen whereever and in whichever form, Amin Dua of Maulana Madni Desai, Muhtamim Madresah Inaamiya

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But now when I went there.. I could see all these bright green turbans, also refered as Jannati Totay(parrots). The fact is that Dawat e Islami has made a uniform, which I disagree with. I love any work that is for Allah's sake, but in their markaz all I would see was kurta, shalwar and green amama,

Brother what is wrong with dressing according to Sunnah, Alhamdullilah Dawat-e-Islami does not force anyone to wear Green Imama, Amir e Ahle Sunnat Maualana Ilyas Attar Qadiri in his speech at Madina tul Awliah Multan at the Annual Ijtima of Dawat-e-Islami said in his speech that Green is not the only colour for turban, there are other colours aswell, black, white etc , whichever one you wear is Sunnah.

Also according to the Madani Markaz of Dawat-e-Islami 70% of Dawat-e-Islami are people who dont even wear Imama or kurta, but they still do Dars in the masjids, they still work hard for Deen and they invite people to Ijtima's and Madani Qafila's.

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Barelwi version of Tablighi Jamat ... or competitor should I say.

You can call it what you want Akhi and by the way im not offended.

[Enalsebeerkawl]

The Barelwis could not stand too see the True Effort of Dawat taking place and succeeding so they concocted there own method to further confirm their stance. In my eyes they are just ashamed of the lack of followers to their aqeeda so they also wanted in on the Haq pie (Tableegh), now once again they have split deen up even more by making 2 different versions of the same thing where the original method is correct and there one has been changed to suit themselves.

Dont join them, rather go to Raiwing, Nizammudin.

First they said Ijtima is Biddat (How ironic coming from them) now they want to also keep one.

I am truly tired of these so called "Sunnis" "Barelwis" splitting deen up with their Bidat.

By the way what is a Qafil to somewhere?

[ionitiesk]

You can call it what you want Akhi and by the way im not offended.

Yeah it wasn't mean to offend you. It was just an observation.

Ofcourse the others on this thread didn't need to bash either jamats in the process, nobody's perfect. Everyone's intention is at least pure and good.

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The Barelwis could not stand too see the True Effort of Dawat taking place and succeeding so they concocted there own method to further confirm their stance. In my eyes they are just ashamed of the lack of followers to their aqeeda

Brother open your eyes, Barelwis are the majority in places like pakistan, india and uk so what are u on about.

No offence but the Raiwand ijtima is only 1 million, the Dawat-e-islami ijtima is 5 million... People are allowed to change their opinions..

Lets not forget that it was Deobandi Ulama who were the first to go against the tableeghi jamat ... for more info please see page 245 of Sirat Ul Ahle Sunnah - available from any Sunni bookshop.

Or just open up 'Usool Dawat-o-Tableegh by Maulvi Abdur Rahmim Deobandi

Anyways my sweet deobandi brothers it obvious that you would have problems with Dawat-e-Islami, so i apologise for posting about them on this forum. Insh'Allah my next post will be on a topic that no one can disagree on...

Once again im sorry

Wasalam ma al ikraam

[naturaherbal]

Bismillahi Rahmani Rahim

Every statement is either for us or against on the day of Qiyama. Yes i know im like the biggest Munafiq here. If somebody is doing dawa work and we say they are devaint, then that could be a real big problem.

I just wanted to let everyone know that who ever is in a group, they dont really know they r in a group. I really mean it brothers. For example, just imagine a really young brother(14-16) doing work in Jamaat Tableegh. This person mashAllah has very good intentions. He has no idea about sects and so on. He just has good intentions to earse some of his sins and so on.

The reason why i mentioned a young brother, is becuase i truly think thant younger youth have the most ikhlas in the world when they are actaully doing good deeds.

I am on the Sahaba.net forums, and i remember one brother, he was like 15 or something, he made a thread about good deeds. He wanted everyone to make a list of good deeds so he can do them so he can get rewarded he said.

Actually, i study this a lot. More to come inshAllah latter sometime inshAllah.

With regards to the Jamaatul Tableegh and some people having rigid mentailty, that is extremely unfortunate.

Brothers, some of the brothers dont give salam to me. Im not joking man. They dont give salam to me becuase i dont go out with them. I wanted to start yelling at someone for not saying salam to me WHEN I SAID SALAM TO HIM. HE DIDNT REPLY. HE JUST PUT HIS HEAD DONE. MORE THAN ONCE .

I say to him:

Don't worry, the Angel on your right replied back to my greeting.

Ma salam

[Zmniubqr]

Brothers, some of the brothers dont give salam to me. Im not joking man. They dont give salam to me becuase i dont go out with them. I wanted to start yelling at someone for not saying salam to me WHEN I SAID SALAM TO HIM. HE DIDNT REPLY. HE JUST PUT HIS HEAD DONE. MORE THAN ONCE .

That's extremely sad and unfortunate.

May Allah help us all. Ameen.

[RerRibreLok]

Br. Ahl Sunnah,

I just need to point out a couple of things, and needless for me to say that I do not intend any disrespect or offense. My Father loves the work of Dawat e Islami, and even asked me if I wished to wear their uniform! That is what I refered to when I posted about all the white kurtas and green amamas, and oh I had forgotten to mention last time, a "green comb" in the front pocket. Now I do know its a generalization, but when a layman (my father) asks me to adorn it as a "uniform" that says about the perception of the mass people.

Secondly, when I view the same issue in Jamaat Tabligh surroundings, I see majority of people wearing jubba (or kurta shalwar), Imama (green, black, white and sometimes striped), and a Rumaal/shimagh {regarding which my teacher says that it is a mutawatar of the akabirs} Now beside these general features there are no sort of distinctions in clothes, both are Sunnah.. Dawat e islami dressings as well as Jamaat Tabligh Dressings, but a third persons perception makes a Hadd (boundary) in the first case and a general statement on Sunnah in the later.

I once questioned my cousin, who is a fan of Dawat Islami, and calls me madani bhai madani bhai.. , that why doesnt he go into Dawat e Islami for Dawah and he said, that I cant stand wearing the clothes otherwise I wouldnt mind. Now when such a thing is restricting people in general from coming towards the beautiful work, then the statement of Ameer e Jamat is not enough. If I were the Ameer... I would have left that green amaama and worn a black one and instead of white kurta worn a yameni jubba.. which is also a sunnah

Secondly, the understanding that Barelwis are dominant in Pakistan is definitely correct.. but as far as India is concerned, that is a big no-no. Whereas in UK deobandis were the first ones to go there, and Barelwi Dawah started way later. I think you are confusing Ahl e Sunnah with barelwi I tend to differenciate on many academic accounts.

Further western, in US and Canada.. you will not find Barelwi Marakiz/Masajid in many places. This region is majority Jamat e Islami, Tableeghis, and Salafis. I can assure you that you wont hear the word barelwi/deobandi etc in many of the places in Canada.. Anyway, the post is getting longer..

Brother Abu Huraira : I think your comment about Tableeghis was a generalization. I know many Tableeghis, and also know the ones you are talking about, but still have met more then enough who are best in akhlaq which balances the other part out.

Wassalam o Alaikum

[naturaherbal]

Bismillahi Rahmani Rahim

I know Brother Talib-ilm, i didnt actaully generalize. I mean, i didnt even want even generalizing. I was just saying what happened with that particular person.

Also, it is surprising that sometimes the elderly(i mean like 70) brother from Jammatul Tableegh are even better than the some of the younger ones. Im serious.

Ma salam

[ionitiesk]

Ok thanks everybody for your comments. Some were insightful, some were not. Now no need to argue over this.

[RerRibreLok]

Exactly.. some younger generation take Jamaat Tabligh as a cult or a teen association fad... something they can relate themselves to.. but we are hoping they will realize the true work inshAllah.. and also pray that we get that realization as well... Amin

[lungumnentibe]

Ok thanks everybody for your comments. Some were insightful, some were not. Now no need to argue over this.

good one!

[Enalsebeerkawl]

.. but we are hoping they will realize the true work inshAllah.. and also pray that we get that realization as well... Amin

W/salaam

What is the real one brother??

I do also apologize for my worss yesterday, they were a bit harsh, it was a sper of the moment thing.

I make dua Allah grants me and all of us the unity that the Sahaba has amongst themselves

[Qutlsilh]

I think what talib-ilm means when he says "true work" and this I also know from my father who is an old worker and old "faisal" for his city, is the same way Dawah is mentioned in the Ahadith, in addition to all the rightful avenues taken by our elders. The wrong understanding of the Dawat wa Tabligh nowadays is the phrase "Yahi hai Kaam !" THIS is the work! (and any work beside this is not the real work)

As my father explains, there are many ways of Dawah. Wearing of Sunnah clothes, adorning beard and Husn e Ikhlaq are all Tabligh. This is what was emphasized by Maulana Ilyas RA in his Malfuzat as well. His primary purpose was not to create Ulema, or that everyone becomes a 40 Days Worker or 4 months.. rather it was that the reality of Deen is instilled in their heats and they become beloved to Allah. That they abide by Salat and other basic duties of Islam, which I think is the purpose of any Islamic Dawah institution or Tarteeb.

[Cyzkrahu]

No offence but the Raiwand ijtima is only 1 million, the Dawat-e-islami ijtima is 5 million

Are we comparing numbers bro ?? .....I sense pride.........

Bear in mind, sincerity in deeds is more important than numbers......doing things to gain recognition amongst public is a waste of effort.

[ionitiesk]

No offence but the Raiwand ijtima is only 1 million, the Dawat-e-islami ijtima is 5 million... People are allowed to change their opinions..

Really? Thats huge. Its hard to believe. I never bumped into one.