[investmentonlinev2006x]

Nowadays we have alot of talking about careers and having a career. I would like to explore in this thread what it is and where it comes from.

A career is a recent thing, it means having somekind of specilised expertise or proffession in something. I think we the mass educated masses have been indoctrinated to persue this thing called a career and it has been done to control us. I am however open to counter criticisms or views, so please do respond if you disagree.

[sicheAscems]

Career is the new name shaytaan has made to engross us in hub ud dunya and the fear of death.

[sicheAscems]

Career is that thing which traps a teenager in a robotic life till his death.

[Olphander]

I don't think pursuing a career (as in specializing in something) is a bad thing unless it takes over a persons life. There is no shame in pursuing a career or profession as a doctor, a shepherd, an engineer, a gardener, a farmer, a merchant, a welder... you name it, Allah (SWT) has given us various abilities and talents and various means to live so let's celebrate the favours and not get carried away (as we can easily do with anything on this world, including words).

[investmentonlinev2006x]

A career become dangerous when our whole life revolves around it, and we want it usually for the wrong reasons. People in careers follow orders including to attack other people if necessary ( I am hoping most Muslims would not blindly obey orders), but non Muslims in psychological tests, even tortured people because some official told them to.

I don't think pursuing a career (as in specializing in something) is a bad thing unless it takes over a persons life. There is no shame in pursuing a career or profession as a doctor, a shepherd, an engineer, a gardener, a farmer, a merchant, a welder... you name it, Allah (SWT) has given us various abilities and talents and various means to live so let's celebrate the favours and not get carried away (as we can easily do with anything on this world, including words).

[KLhdfskja]

A strange thread!

What's wrong in that if someone is struggling for the career?
I myself an Aviator and making my future better but I didn't find anything bad in it which deviates me from the right path.

[Domovoy]

careers have been around for millennia and are the perfecting of a particular field. whether or not it is considered part of the dunya or akhira depends on what the intention of the person doing it is and what career they are pursuing.

Take this woman:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edna_Adan_Ismail

http://www.ednahospital.org/hospital-mission/

She pursued a career in midwifery and has saved thousands of lives in somalia now mashAllah

We need engineers and doctors and economists and politicians and soldiers, but as to whether you will be rewarded or punished for this, innamal a'maalu binniyyah

put your money into islam and your skills into serving the ummah and inshallah you will be benefit for teh ummah and mankind

but dont chase fancy cars and clothes and houses or neglect your deen.

wallahu a'lam

[Olphander]

A career become dangerous when our whole life revolves around it, and we want it usually for the wrong reasons. People in careers follow orders including to attack other people if necessary ( I am hoping most Muslims would not blindly obey orders), but non Muslims in psychological tests, even tortured people because some official told them to.

I see what you mean. Yes, letting life revolve around a career... giving in to threats of loss of career or advancement to do things that are un-Islamic or things that will hurt anyone in the ummah is something to be cautious of insha'Allah. It can be hard to keep eyes on the straight path while some deviations pull this way and that. I agree, caution is needed - especially in those careers where money easily takes over and more-and-more people are competing for.

[huedaanydrax]

Its a job you stay at for so long that it becomes a career.

Its gratitude is to use what you've earned to become closer to Allah, spending it on family, etc.

Anything can become harmful if it distracts one from the ultimate goal. Inherently there is nothing wrong with a great career.

[investmentonlinev2006x]

Careers in modern times are different from crafts in the past or just working for someone temporarily. Most careers involve working for a corporation. Studies of modern corporations reveal that they are psychopathic they try to maximize their own interests or profits and deny any responsibility if they can for any harm they might cause.If a individual behaved in this way they would be classed as psychopathic. The people working in the corporation at their careers are usually too busy trying to advance their own careers to realize or recognize that their own actions might be going towards great harms being caused by the corporations.

I think careers where you are self employed or where you work in a small firm are okay, but if you work for corporations as an accountant or even just a computer operator...you might be involved in something that causes harm to society and or the environment. People working in corporations justify their harmful actions by avoiding responsibility or by pleading ignorance. Corporations rule the world and control our lives.

[ReginaPerss]

does it not say in the quran

spend SOME time in earning youre rizq

we were not meant to be robots/drones in the capitalist/material mechanism where we are constantly bombarded to buy more than we earn and be indebted way beyond our income

peace is in zero debt and minimal wordly belongings

a muslims career is worship and dawah and service to mankind in halal pursuits/halal ways

earning rizq is to enable us to do that

[Olphander]

well said.

[investmentonlinev2006x]

Okay so Muslims must strive hard to alter and change the dominant system. They should do this not by just joining a corporation and working for it, we should learn about halal and healthy alternatives that Muslims as a jammah with a leader can bring about. Thousands of Muslims work for banks, they work in other corporations keeping the capitalist system functioning while believing that they are just earning a living a rizq. As individuals we are weak and powerless as a jamma with a leader and with a teaching of the halal alternatives we become powerful.

does it not say in the quran

spend SOME time in earning youre rizq

we were not meant to be robots/drones in the capitalist/material mechanism where we are constantly bombarded to buy more than we earn and be indebted way beyond our income

peace is in zero debt and minimal wordly belongings

a muslims career is worship and dawah and service to mankind in halal pursuits/halal ways

earning rizq is to enable us to do that

[nakeseireo]

What we call a 'career' is changing forever as the security of a job won't be there.

Generally speaking, it is a narrative about a person that runs throughout their life and allows them to plan. It provides stability, a way to measure up their choices. It gives them an identity, it speaks of their struggle, it recognises their achievements, roles taken in order to add more depths, decisions made at critical points in their life as they transitioned from one life stage to the next.

Many who are under the age of 30 are pretty stuffed right now as the economic outlook slows and having to take low paying jobs that aren't permanent.

[ReginaPerss]

better to focus on an ability to adapt and on a multi skilled ethic

[investmentonlinev2006x]

So basically having a career is the main thing? Come on peeps cant we think of other ways of living without riba, without a economy controlled by the bankers going to the south? Cant human beings who have eeman numbering millions come up with a better form of social organization other than to have a well paid job for life with benefits?

What we call a 'career' is changing forever as the security of a job won't be there.

Generally speaking, it is a narrative about a person that runs throughout their life and allows them to plan. It provides stability, a way to measure up their choices. It gives them an identity, it speaks of their struggle, it recognises their achievements, roles taken in order to add more depths, decisions made at critical points in their life as they transitioned from one life stage to the next.

Many who are under the age of 30 are pretty stuffed right now as the economic outlook slows and having to take low paying jobs that aren't permanent.

[nakeseireo]

So basically having a career is the main thing? Come on peeps cant we think of other ways of living without riba, without a economy controlled by the bankers going to the south? Cant human beings who have eeman numbering millions come up with a better form of social organization other than to have a well paid job for life with benefits?

No it is not the main thing. One must understand it plays a crucial role in those who think long-term. Lionel Messi didn't become a footballer at 18.

Having more middle class muslims is better for any place where muslims are in number. Being poor holds muslims back. Some see knowledge as a way out of this trap.

As I mentioned before it provides narrative which is so important in life. Just about any major issue with young people's is around identity. If you are having to postpone life events because you are poor or can ill afford to better your lot then your life narrative has yet to begin. You will build up a lot of resentment because the worst that can happen is your best years pass you by and all the potential, talent, energy is taken from you and leaves you nothing to leave behind.

Career today is not the same as yesterday. Now you have keep learning new skills if you are to stay relevant.