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Old 09-03-2011, 07:07 AM   #1
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Default Imaam Waaqidi, Futuh ash-Sham, Clarification...


My brother some time ago brought home the book "Conquests of Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Palestine". It says at the back it is an English translation of the Urdu book "Sahaab-e-Kiraam ke Jangi Ma'rike" which has been adapted from "Futoohush Shaam" by Imaam Waaqidi. It has been translated and published by Jamia Masihiyyah Ashrafiyyah, De Deur, South Africa.

I have read what Mufti Husain Sb. has said about the book by Imaam Waaqidi but I am confused. Can anyone perhaps shed light on the Urdu book mentioned above.

Also, Jamia Masihiyyah is well known to be strict on Sunnah and Shariah. It boggles my mind that they would go to great lengths to translate and publish a 'questionable' book.

Finally, if Futoohush Shaam has been wrongly attributed to Imaam Waaqidi then who is its author? In the English book above in the bio of Imaam Waaqidi statements of praise by Allamah Thahabi are mentioned. Amongst his teachers where Imaam Abu Hanifa and Imaam Maalik, and he authored about 29 books.

If anyone can shed more light on all the above it would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 09-03-2011, 04:14 PM   #2
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Old 09-03-2011, 04:29 PM   #3
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Mufti Husain Saheb did make mention of all that info somewhere before. Basically its simple, having stictness in ones principles and having adequate book knowledge are very different things. This I only learnt under Mufti Husain Saheb. Such misrepresentations occur because of our complete lack of link with the book knowledge. I hope I can learn something in it. I will try to search the link where he clarified the wrong attribution etc,

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Old 09-03-2011, 04:38 PM   #4
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Mufti Husain Saheb did make mention of all that info somewhere before. Basically its simple, having stictness in ones principles and having adequate book knowledge are very different things. This I only learnt under Mufti Husain Saheb. Such misrepresentations occur because of our complete lack of link with the book knowledge. I hope I can learn something in it. I will try to search the link where he clarified the wrong attribution etc,



Mawlana Sb. can you please expand on the above that you have mentioned?

Also, I did read in the older threads on the false attribution in the book. However, I was aiming to get info on the Urdu book that I mentioned above.

Ps. The false attribution was in the thread relating to Khawla...
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:51 AM   #5
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Brother afriki_haqq,

There are some passages from Siratul Mustafa on Imam Al-Waqidi . It might help clarify some things.


I saved it on pdf but can't seem to figure out how post the files or pics of the the pages on the forum.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:24 AM   #6
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Ok, lets give it a try...(Thanks bro pluto )













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Old 07-02-2012, 02:44 AM   #7
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The book was never written by al-Waqidi.
Hundreds of years after him, someone claimed that this is his work and from then on people began attributing it to him. The book quotes authorities who were born after Waqidi, it even quotes Waqidi himself!
It contains many false stories like the ones of Khawlah etc.


Here is a link to an Arabic pdf discussing this false attribution.

In short, don't touch the book.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:53 AM   #8
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Those excerpts that I posted from Siratul Musafa is not about Futuhush- Shaam and Al-Waqidi but about what the Ulamaa and Muhaddithun have said about him as a narrator.
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:40 AM   #9
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was providing reference for the earlier posts,
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