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Old 06-10-2010, 11:02 PM   #1
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Default Boundaries in the Haram for a woman on her period
As salaam alaikum wa rahmatullah,

What are the boundaries for a woman on her period in the Haram?
Can she enter the Masjid?
Does the extension constitute part of the Masjid?
Can she sit in the courtyard (marbled floor) outside the Masjid walls? (Or is that part of the Masjid)
Is there a specific boundary?

May Allah reward you for your help, Ameen.
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Old 06-12-2010, 05:36 AM   #2
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Anyone?
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Old 06-12-2010, 07:54 PM   #3
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Assalaam alaikum wa rahmatullah,
I asked (Hanafi) Mufti Omer of Jeddah and he said she can sit in the area outside the Masjid building where there is marble floor out side the Safa-Marwa area.
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Old 06-13-2010, 01:22 AM   #4
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Assalaam alaikum wa rahmatullah,
I asked (Hanafi) Mufti Omer of Jeddah and he said she can sit in the area outside the Masjid building where there is marble floor out side the Safa-Marwa area.
As salaam alaikum,

There is Marble floor all around the Masjid outside it's building walls. Are you saying that she can sit anywhere outside the walls of the Masjid?
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Old 06-13-2010, 02:54 AM   #5
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Can she do sa'i from outside the Masjid?
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Old 06-13-2010, 04:47 AM   #6
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She can’t do sa’ee from outside the masjid because sa’ee is done between safa and marwa and they are located within the masjid. I have been told that the saf'ee area is not included within the huddod of the masjid though and if this is the case, then she can sit there if she is not pure.

The general ruling is that a menstruating woman is prohibited from entering a masjid, and the area of the masjid is defined by the boundaries as set out by the mutawallis of the masjid (the persons designated to manage the masjid). In the case of Masjid ul Haram, the main prayer areas within the outer masjid walls is designated as masjid, excluding the office areas, wudhu areas, storage rooms etc that are inside. The white marble area outside the masjid entrances is not classified as a masjid so she can sit there.

With regards to the safa marwa area, I did hear about 10 years ago that it was not a shari’ masjid but since then I have been told by a mufti residing in Madina that it is, so in that case she would not be allowed to enter the safaa marwa area neither.
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Old 07-10-2010, 09:36 PM   #7
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This is an excellent question and particularly relevant to me as i am travelling there with my 3 daughters. im still confused as the answers are varying!
considering this is such a common query ( or it should be anyway) the information is very scant! what about in Madina Munawwarrah?? Can a woman on her period sit on the marbled courtyard outside the mosque but within the gated area?
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Old 07-10-2010, 10:08 PM   #8
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Yes she can sit in the marbled area outside the masjid as it is not designated as a shar'i masjid.

For a really simple and straightforward answer just remember this: She cannot enter the area beyond the doors of the masjid. She can go anyway outside the masjid doors i.e the white and grey marbled area, whether that is within the gated area or outside. She should stay away from the area inside the doors of the masjid.If she sticks to that, she'll be fine.
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Old 07-11-2010, 03:33 AM   #9
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what about taking the contraceptive pill? some non Hanafi scholars seem to have allowed this... but on-line from hanafis i've only seen mention of using it for Hajj when you need to do your fard tawaf and have to get home..
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Old 07-11-2010, 04:58 AM   #10
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From a Hanafi fiqhi point of view there is nothing wrong in taking the contraceptive pill to defer a menstruation, whether this is at Hajj or any other time or place. It is not recommended though as it can often result in messing up a woman's cycle. Many women take it for Hajj or Umrah and find they have continuous or intermittent istihadha making salah and tawaf very difficult. It also means that many women mess up their normal haydh and istihadha pattern so end up praying when they shouldn't be and vice versa.
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Old 07-11-2010, 05:09 AM   #11
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if you take it regularly and well in advance of your period most wouldn't have any bleeding at all.... and, obviously the effects are temporary and there shouldn't be any long term consequence.
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Old 07-11-2010, 05:25 AM   #12
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If its taken regularly and she has settled into a routine with it and does not experience istihadha then she won't have that problem. But I was referring to those who take it just for the Hajj or Umrah days as that was what you mentioned. When a woman starts taking the contraceptive pill then for many women it takes time for her habit to settle again. Taking it temporarily can cause more problems with disruption of habit then it is worth. Istihadha is very likely. Then how will she come and go from Haram to make wudhu just before the prayer, though all the crowds. What if she experiences a irregular habit of haydh and tuhr etc? How will she calculate her days if she is not learned in these masaail herself?

It's so much better for her to just accept her days of haydh in their normal time and busy herself with ibaadah other than salah and tawaf during those days. If she continues her zikr throughout then she will still be rewarded highly for her ibaadah.
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Old 07-11-2010, 05:35 AM   #13
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From Ask Imam site, answered by Mufti Ibrahim Desai DB:


2. You should not interfere with your normal monthly cycle by taking tablets. However, if there is a need and there is no alternative, for example, you will be experiencing your monthly periods and you still have to perform your Tawaaf-e-Ziyaarah (Fardh Tawaaf) while you are also scheduled to return home immediately. If you fear such a predicament, then there is a leeway to control your monthly cycle during Hajj.
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Old 07-11-2010, 06:01 AM   #14
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yes with norethisterone you may still get breakthrough bleeding (i presume that is what you are referring to) - in my last post i was referring to the COCP - obviously you'd have to plan and start weeks in advance.
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Can anyone confirm (especially the ulema) that this is still the opinion of the ulema?
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