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Hadrat Mawlana Sa'd(db)'s talk in Hyderabad Ijtema in English.


Dear Brothers, Salam-e-masnoon. I have started translating some relevant parts of Mawlana Sa'd's bayan to the older saathis in Hyderabad into English. Hope that it will be of benefit. This is a small snippet taken from islamibayanaat and translated as a sample. I am presenting it on the forum along with Urdu transliteration so that brothers from the Subcontinent can look over the translation and correct me wherever wrong. If it is helpful then I will translate the entire bayan into English. WS.


Urdu transliteration:
……balke is kaam ke sath hamara islahi ta'lluq nahin qaayam hoga. Maulwi Ilyas saheb farmate they "ye kaam wali gar hai..khud wali banane wala kaam hai." Agar is kaam se kaamyabi ka, tazkiye ka, hidayat ka, taraqqi ka yaqin nahin hai to is kaam ko halka samajh kar chod diya jayega....is liye mere muhtaram doston, azizon, buzurgon sab se zyada zururat is kaam par yaqin aur basirat ki hai taaki hame is kaam par istiqamat ho..agar kaam se yaqin na huwa to kaam to halka samajh kar chod diya jayega..aur be asar samjh kar choda jayega....is liye ke iski taa'seer... is kaam ki ta'seer is kaam ki qurbaniyon ke pura hone mein hai..agar is kaam ki qurbaniyan aur is kaam ke mutaalibe pure nahin hue...to is kaam ka asar zahir nahin hoga..is liye mere muhtaram doston ,buzurgon aur azizon...hamein sab se pehle Allah se is kaam par baseerat mangni hai...ke Allah hamein is kaam par yaqin aur basirat ata farmawe, kyun ke basirat ke baqadr istiqamat hogi aur istiqamat ki baqadr Allah ki taraf se qubuliyat hogi....to char batein hamare liye zururi hain..mujhe char batein arz karni hain, kam par baseerat, apas ki ijtimayyiat, aur jaa'miiyyat ke hum mein jamiyat ka mizaj ho, aur chauthi cheez sifat-e-qubuliyat ke Allah ke yahan apne aap ko sifaat se qubul karwana..ye char cheezen kaam karne walon me honi chahiye...kam par baseerat, kam karne walon mein ijtimiayit, inke mizaj mein jaa'miyyat aur sifat-i-qubuliyat...to pehli chiz ye hai..is liye ke ambiya (asws) apne kaam mein basirat par hote hain....to jo haalaat, rukawatein, qaum ki taraf se eraaz, nabiyon ki dawat ka qubul na hona, ye tamam cheezen jo pesh aati hain, ye in cheezon mein, in rukawaton ke bawajud apna kaam pura karte hain is liye ke unhein yaqin hota hai apne kam se apni kamyabi ka..is liye mere muhtaram doston buzurgon, is kaam par istiqamat ka raaz ye hai ke hum is kaam ko apni zaat ke liye karein, dawat ko samajh kar chalein, ke dawat ki kya ta'seer hai aur dawat kyun di jati hai aur ye dawat kiske liye hai.....dekho dawat daa’ii ki apni zaat ke liye hai..hamare andar kabhi doosron ki islah ka jazba apni zaat ko na bhula de...ki dusron ki islah ka jazba..hamein apni zat ki taraf se befikar karde..ke asal mein dawat dai'i ki apni zaat ke liye hai....repeated......hazrat farmate they ke is kaam ko apni zat ke liye karo...jo apni zaat ke liye karega wo saleh banega....jo saleh banega Allah(ri) us se ummat ki islah ka kaam le lenge....is liye bhalai ka hukm karna, burai se rokna ye asal apni zaat k liye hai...is kaam mein hum ibtida mein apni zat ke liye karte they..jab karna aa gaya to phir hamein is kaam mein doosron ke taqaazon ne chalaya....is khayal ne hamein apni zaat ko bhula diya..ke hamari naql-o-harkat...hamari mehnat...ye to hamari apni zaat ke liye hai...dusri baat....ye hai hamare dilon mein is ka yaqin ho ke ye kaam tarbiyat aur tazkiye ke liye kafi hai...agar khuda na kere ye yaqin na paida hua andar to phir hamara ta'alluq is kaam se islahi nahin rahega..(to be continued)

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Translation:
.........rather we will not be able to establish a reformative relationship with this work (Tabligh). Maulwi Ilyas(ra) sahab used to say, "This work is Wali producing....it(by itself) can turn people into Walis". If one does not have (absolute) certitude of success, spiritual reformation, guidance and forward progress with the work......then the work will be taken lightly and discarded........which is why my respected brothers, friends and elders......what we need most is belief in the work and full understanding so that we develop firmness and fortitude (istiqama) in this work.....if one does not believe in it...then he will take it lightly and leave it....and moreover the work will be considered as ineffective and abandoned.... because the effectiveness (ta'seer) ....the effectiveness of this work is dependent upon the sacrifices that are made for it......if the sacrifices and demands of this work remain unfulfilled...then the effects of the work will not stand forth....that's why my respected friends, elders and brothers....first of all we must ask Allah for clear knowledge & full understanding (Baseerat)....so that Allah gives us belief (yaqin) and knowledge.......for one's firmness in this work will depend upon his Baseerat (understanding)...and depending upon his fortitude and firmness will Allah accept him.....4 points are important for us.........I would like to say 4 things.....1)Belief and knowledge in the work(yaqin and baseera).....2)unity(ijtimaaiyat) regarding the work.....3) Perfection and comprehensiveness (Jaami’iyyat) in carrying out the work…4) Sifat-e-qubuliyyat….qualities which make one acceptable to Allah….making oneself acceptable to Allah(for the work of Da’wa) with one’s good qualities. So the first thing is this …remember that the Anbiya (asws) used to call with full understanding & knowledge (Baseerat) …..whatever trials, whatever obstacles were placed by their people…(such as) refusal to accept their da’wa….whatever came in their way was unable to stop them….they used to complete their work…because they were absolutely convinced that their success lay in what they were doing. So my respected friends, elders and brothers, the secret of remaining firm in this work (Da’wa) is that we do this for our own selves, that we understand what Da’wa is, what are the effects of Da’wa, why it is given and for whom it is given. Look! Da’wa is actually for the Daa’ii himself. In the quest for correcting (islah) others, let us never forget ourselves. Let it not happen that we seek to correct others and become careless of our own (spiritual needs)…for remember that Da’wa is for the Daa’ii himself. Hadrat (rah) used to say, “Do this work for (the correction of) your own self. He who does it for himself (considering himself muhtaj) will become Saleh (pious). And Allah Rabb al ‘Izzat, will use him for the correction of the Ummah”. That is why inviting to good and stopping from evil is actually for our selves. We used to do this work in the beginning for our own selves, later on we were moved as per the needs of the people. This way of thinking (that we were doing something for others) made us forget ourselves (i.e. the older members), it made us forget that our talking and our working and all our efforts were all for our own selves (in actuality). The second thing…is that we believe with our hearts that this work is enough for our self reformation and self correction….Allah forbid if we do not hold this belief in our hearts then our relationship to this work will no longer remain corrective…(to be continued)
[Emphasis and material in brackets is mine to make certain points clear].

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Masha'Allah, bohot khub Hadhrat!

[VeniHemealm]

Oh snap

Dr. Abu Tamim Sahib, may you do more...or possibly translate the bayans posted by hylen2000 and recommended by Maulana Abu Bilal?

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the translation is great !

aap ki urdu and english dono aala hain bhai !

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Oh snap

Dr. Abu Tamim Sahib, may you do more...or possibly translate the bayans posted by hylen2000 and recommended by Maulana Abu Bilal?

brother. This is a part of the bayan recommended by Maulwi Abu Bilal. WS.

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Goya ek mehnat, ek naql-o-harkat aur jo da`wat ki ruh is ^amali dhanche ki..maulwi ilyas(rh) sb farmate the,”ye to ^amali dhancha hai, iski ruh da`wat hai…saara dhancha hai….mehnat ka bhi, ‘ibadat ka bhi.... ye pura dhancha hai, is mein jo ruh padegi wo da’wat se padegi, warna ye mehnat, ye mehnat ek jism hai, is jism ki saari ifaadiyat, iski naql-o-harkat, iski saari manfa’at iski ruh ke saath hai…is liye hamein is par yaqin hona chahiye". Qur`an ne qasam kha kar kaha hai ke insaniyat khasare se nikal nahin sakti da’wat ke baghair..repeated..khasare se wo log bachenge…awr najat wo pawenge jin mein char batein paida ho jayengee..iman, amal –e-saaleha, doosron ko iman o amal-e-saaleha par aamaada karna..repeated…..doosron ko bhalai ka hukm karna aur buraai se rokna…ya iman aur `aamal ki da`wat dena..ye bhi imaan aur `aamal-e-saleh ki tarah najaat ki shart hai…..`ulama ne likha hai…ki ye char asbaab hain najat ke. Iman, `aamal-e-saleha, tawaasi bil Haq, tawaasi bi’s sabr….in char mein se agar ik bhi kam huwa to asbab-e-nijat mukammal na honge..is liye kaam karne walon ko kaam par ye yaqin hona chahiye..ke ummat khasare se nikal nahin sakti da`wat ki baghair.
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Translation: So the effort and the moving around, its spirit is Da’wa…Maulwi Ilyas(rah) used to say that this is just the skeleton of the work, its soul is Da’wa……the entire thing is a framework…whether the effort or the worship..it is a skeleton and it will come to life through da’wa..otherwise this work…this work[effort] is like a body…..the entire benefits(ifaadiyaat) of this body….its moving around…all its achievements(manfa'at)…… are dependent upon its soul..hence we need to believe in it. The Qur’an has sworn that humanity is in loss and cannot come out of this loss without da’wa (repeated twice). Those people will be saved from loss ….they will achieve salvation….who have 4 things in them….Faith, good deeds, inviting others towards faith and good deeds..(repeated)….inviting others towards good and stopping them from evil. Inviting towards faith and good deeds..this is also a condition for salvation like faith and good deeds themselves. The ‘Ulama have written that these are the four conditions for salvation (najaat). Faith (Iman), good deeds (amal al Saleh), Tawasee bi’l Haqq (calling towards Haqq), tawasee bi’s sabr (calling towards patience). If even one is left out, then (all) the conditions for salvation will not be met. Hence workers must believe that this Ummah cannot come out of its state of loss without the work of Da’wa.(to be continued)

[VeniHemealm]

brother. This is a part of the bayan recommended by Maulwi Abu Bilal. WS.

This is great. I will try to send these translations to some brothers in my area.

Please keep them coming.

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brother Abu_Tamim. The translations is world class and highly beneficial. May Allah reward you abundantly for your noble efforts. Ameen.

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brother Abu_Tamim. The translations is world class and highly beneficial. May Allah reward you abundantly for your noble efforts. Ameen.

brother and
May Allah bless you.

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Assalam Alaikum.

Dear Doctor Sahab, your writing skills are fantastic. MashAllah may Allah reward you, ameen. This is great stuff. However, for people who have already made up their minds about the effort, will not benefit much from this.

The very start of the bayan is great. Everyone should read these lines by Maulana Saad (DB) over and over again ..

Maulwi Ilyas(ra) sahab used to say, "This work is Wali producing....it(by itself) can turn people into Walis". If one does not have (absolute) certitude of success, spiritual reformation, guidance and forward progress with the work......then the work will be taken lightly and discarded........which is why my respected brothers, friends and elders......what we need most is belief in the work and full understanding so that we develop firmness and fortitude (istiqama) in this work.....if one does not believe in it...then he will take it lightly and leave it....and moreover the work will be considered as ineffective and abandoned....

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Brother Abu Tamim. Can you email me at my email which is

myusername at the rate yahoo dot com

I have something unrelated to this thread but related to medical issues that I want to discuss with you

yes brother. It should be in your ibox now.

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Assalam Alaikum.

Dear Doctor Sahab, your writing skills are fantastic. MashAllah may Allah reward you, ameen. This is great stuff. However, for people who have already made up their minds about the effort, will not benefit much from this.

The very start of the bayan is great. Everyone should read these lines by Maulana Saad (DB) over and over again ..

Maulwi Ilyas(ra) sahab used to say, "This work is Wali producing....it(by itself) can turn people into Walis". If one does not have (absolute) certitude of success, spiritual reformation, guidance and forward progress with the work......then the work will be taken lightly and discarded........which is why my respected brothers, friends and elders......what we need most is belief in the work and full understanding so that we develop firmness and fortitude (istiqama) in this work.....if one does not believe in it...then he will take it lightly and leave it....and moreover the work will be considered as ineffective and abandoned....

Jazakallah Mawlana. Please wait for an integrated translation of part 1 which will be posted tomorrow, Inshallah. WS.

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Assalam Alaikum.

Dear Doctor Sahab, your writing skills are fantastic. MashAllah may Allah reward you, ameen. This is great stuff. However, for people who have already made up their minds about the effort, will not benefit much from this.

The very start of the bayan is great. Everyone should read these lines by Maulana Saad (DB) over and over again ..

Maulwi Ilyas(ra) sahab used to say, "This work is Wali producing....it(by itself) can turn people into Walis". If one does not have (absolute) certitude of success, spiritual reformation, guidance and forward progress with the work......then the work will be taken lightly and discarded........which is why my respected brothers, friends and elders......what we need most is belief in the work and full understanding so that we develop firmness and fortitude (istiqama) in this work.....if one does not believe in it...then he will take it lightly and leave it....and moreover the work will be considered as ineffective and abandoned....

Why have yu added the word " ( by itself ) " ? This has completely changed the real meaning of the original quote !!!

Personally, I think that , if the quote " This work is Wali producing....it(by itself) can turn people into Walis" is used out of context by the Salafi minded TJ guys, the TJ will soon be drowned into oblivion in our lifetime. Because, the quote using "by itself " gives an impression that the TJ work is self-sufficient , without the need to get guidance from a real Wali-Allah , I mean , sufi shaykh.

What that quote actually means that " This work is Wali producing .... it can turn peple into Walis " because of its power to get people bonded with real sufi shaykhs and ulama residing in their locality !!!!

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Why have yu added the word " ( by itself ) " ? This has completely changed the real meaning of the original quote !!!

there's no need to give our own personal tafseer of what shaykh saad said and what you think he meant or what you would like it to mean!, from what i understood from the talk is what bro abu tamim has correctly translated as "ye kaam wali gar hai..khud wali banane wala kaam hai."

khud = by itself

so the translation is correct!!!

brother dont try to derail the thread!!, if you want to add your own interpretation then go on the other tabligh thread where you will be more than welcome to give your unqualified personal tafseer.(p.s, your not related to muadidi saab are you by any chance?)

[VeniHemealm]

This quote from Qari Tayyib can provide a clearer picture:

If you ponder, you will realize that the Tablighi Jama'ah is a combination of all these four means of reformation*, it is like a ma'jun muraakab (compounded medication). It is like an elixir in which all four ways of self-reformation is found. In a nutshell there is untold benefits in this effort.


*1. Suhbah of the Ahlullah, 2. A sincere friend, 3. Islah by means of an enemy, and 4. Muhasabah of the nafs. Qari Tayyib referenced those four means from Imam Ghazzali , explaining them before the above quote.

Taken from the book, Self-reformation and the Tablighi Jama'ah

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Why have yu added the word " ( by itself ) " ? This has completely changed the real meaning of the original quote !!!

Personally, I think that , if the quote " This work is Wali producing....it(by itself) can turn people into Walis" is used out of context by the Salafi minded TJ guys, the TJ will soon be drowned into oblivion in our lifetime. Because, the quote using "by itself " gives an impression that the TJ work is self-sufficient , without the need to get guidance from a real Wali-Allah , I mean , sufi shaykh.

What that quote actually means that " This work is Wali producing .... it can turn peple into Walis " because of its power to get people bonded with real sufi shaykhs and ulama residing in their locality !!!!

biradar.
I have given the Urdu transliteration also so that brothers can judge for themselves. Hadrat has specifically mentioned the word "khud" which as you know means by itself. I put it in brackets so that the flow of the sentence would not be impeded. Otherwise it is an original part of the speech. Please look over the entire Urdu and English and let me know if any other mistake stands out. May Allah bless you. Wasalam.

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Dusri baat ye hai ke tamaam nabiyyon ke zamaanon mein ye baat nazar aayi hai ke jab nabi gaye, dawat gayi, deen gaya. Nabi aaye, dawat aayi, deen aaya. Goya har zamaane mein deen da`wat par mawquf raha.....(repeated)....ye har zamane ki karguzari hai ke nabi aaye, dawat aayi, deen aaya, nabi gaye, dawat gayi, deen gaya…
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Aaj bhi yahi baat hai ke puri duniya mein jitni rijzat hai aur jitni bid’at hai aur jitne munkarat hain, aur jitni ghaflat hai….. ki ummat ki is se nikalne ki, isse bacchne ka koi rasta nazar nahin aata siwai da`wat ke…

Doston, Buzurgon awr `Azizon ye sab baat hum isliye ‘arz kar rahe hain ke ab tareeqa-e-kaar ghalib aa raha hai aur d’awat, iski haqiqat, iski zururat, is par yaqin, is mein za’uuf paida ho raha hai..kaam karne walon ko is kaam par yaqin ki zururat hai taki yaqin ke baqadr istiqamat ho aur istiqamat ke baqadr is kaam ke taqazen pure hon.

Is liye pehli cheez to ye hai ke hamein is kaam par ye yaqin ho ..dusri mere doston, buzurgon baat ye hai ke hamare andar ijtimaayiyat ho..ijtimaayiyat kisko kehte hain? Ijtimaayiyat qulub ke jama hone ko kehte hain..ajsaam ke jama hone ka naam jam’at nahin hai..ajsaam ke jama hone ko bheed kehte hain…(repeated)..aur quloob ke jama hone ko ijtimaayiyat kehte hain. Agar 2 aadmi namaz padh rahe hon baajama`t..to kaha jayega ke jama’t hai, jama’t ho rahi hai. Ek ameer ho, uske sath jam’at ho to ye ja’mat keh lawegi….kyunki ye ita’at par hai..muqtadi imam ki ita’at par hai(repeated) aur jam’at amir ki ita’at par hai…to ye kaha jayega jam’aat hai…agar ijtimaayi qulub nahin hai to bheed hai..mere muhtaram doston is ijtimaayiyat ke asbaab hain.
.......to Quran ne ijtimaa'yiyat ke liye 4 asbaab batlaye hain(repeated)..ke pehla sabab ijtim`aayiyat ka ye hai ke kaam karne walon ki tabiyaton mein narmi ho..ye pehla sabab hai ijtima'ayiyat ka,..is liye ke is kaam ke jitney usul hain wo qawaneen nahin hai
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…Shiddat is liye paida hoti hai k ham kaam ke usul ko qaanun samajhte hain….ki ye qanun pass huwa hai..ke ya qanun tayy huwa hai..is liye ‘arz ye hai ke hamare yahan koi usul qanoon nahin hai..ye usul hai…usul kiske liye hote hain? Usul hote hain it`aat karne wale ke liye aur qawaneen hote hain nafarmaan ke liye ..repeated…baat na maanne walon ke liye qaanun aur ita`at karne walon ke liye usul..
Is liye hukumat ke qanoon hote hain aur nubuwwat ke usul hote hain…(repeated)..da`wat ke usul, aur hukumat ke qanoon..jo qaanun ke khilaf karta hai uski pakad hoti hai..hamare yahan be-usuli karne walon ki pakad nahin hoti hai…inki pakad karo kyun inne be-usuli ki hai..hamare yahan iska koi sha’oor nahin hai….is liye ke hamare sare usul, usul hain jo ita`at ke liye hain aur ita`at….it`aat to targhib se hoti hai..ke inko targhib di jawe sahih kaam ki….bas..is se zyaada kisiko haqq nahin hai…
is liye ke da’ii ke zimme hai tazkeer….Wa zakkir fa innaz-zikraa tanfau’l mu’mineen…………ke inko yaad dilaao sahih baat..ke da`ii ke zimme tazkir hai ke ye yaad dilawe ke usul kya hain…. bus…is liye mere Doston, Buzurgon, is kaam ke jitney usul hain, wo usul hai qawaneen nahin hai kyunki qanoon mein pakad hoti hai…is liye hamare yahan usul ka muzakira hai..beusuli ka muakhada nahin hai, pakad nahin hai(repeated)..is liye ke is kaam ko karne wale insan hain, farishte nahi hain…ke saathiyon se beusuliyaan hongi…ye insan hain..ke insan khataon ka khameer hai
….kullu hum khabbaun hadith mein aayaa hai ke ke tum sab ke sab khatakaar ho, khata se koi bacha huwa nahin hai..choti badi…mukthalif hain..magar sab ke sab khatakaar ho(repeated)..
to ye hai ke doosron ki be-usuli aadmi tab dekhta hai jab uski nazar apni khud ke mahasin par, apni khubiyon par hoti hai…repeated…to uski nazar zurur doosre ke aiyb par jawegi..aur jo apni khud ki kamzoriyan dekhta rahega…uski nazar kabhi kisiki be-usuli par, kisi ki bad-gumani par, kisike aiyb par nahin jawegi isliye ke jo baat usko kisike andar nazar aati hai us cheez ko usne apne andar pehle dekh liya…to is mein gham aur fikr apni zaat ka paida ho gaya…(repeated)
Hadrat ‘Umar(ra) ne ek bade miyan ko sharab peete hue dekha ..to wahan se, andar se rote huwe nikle….qissa to lamba hai….wahan se rote huwe nikle…rone ki wajah thi…ke Umar(ra) apne is gunah par ro rahe they ke tune ghar mein ghuskar iska aiyb kyun talash kiya…is par ro rahe they..is par nahin ro rahe they ke meri riyaya sharab kyun pee rahi hai…balki rona is par tha ki ‘Umar agar Allah ne tera gunah maaf nahin kiya (a few words unclear here)…..ke apne gunah par ro rahe they.
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The second thing is this; Something that was seen in the times of all Prophets (asws) was that when that (particular) Nabi passed on, then the work of da’wa went and then the Din went. When the Messenger came, Da’wa came and Din came. So in every era and time, the Din remained dependent upon Da’wa. This is the end result of every era. When the Nabi went, Da’wa went and finally the Din went. And today also, all the evil in the world, all the innovations in Din and all the evils and carelessness..(that we see around us)…..there is no way that the Muslim Nation can come out of it or escape it except through Da’wa. My friends, elders and brothers, I am saying this because the method and way of working is becoming (seemingly) more important while Da’wa (itself), its truth(and depth), its need and belief in it…all this is becoming weaker….our workers need to have belief in it so that firmness in the work is per faith and belief and as per one’s firmness (in the work) will the demands of this work be fulfilled. So the first thing is that we have belief in this work……the other thing my friends and elders is that there be unity and single-mindedness in us…what does Ijtimaayiyat mean? It refers to the union of (our) hearts……The Jama’h is not a collection of bodies/people…a mass of people is a crowd(repeated) …and unity of hearts is known as ijtimaayiyat. If two men are offering Salah (namaz) in Jam’ah..then it will be said that this is a Jam’ah….prayer in Jama’h is taking place…If there is an ameer and a Jama’h is with him, then it will be called a Jama’h…..because they are on faithful obedience(ita’at)…the follower(muqtadi) follows the Imam(repeated) and the Jama’h follows the amir..so it will be said that it is a jam’ah….(however) if there is no union of hearts then it will be a crowd. My respected friends, this unity of hearts has conditions (behind it).

The Qur’an has given four reasons for unity….the first reason and condition is that there be gentleness(and softness) in the workers(of Din)…this is the first reason….because the principles of this work are not Laws. Excessiveness(and intolerance) raises its head when people consider the principles of the work to be Laws….so that (they think) that this Law was passed or this Law was decided….which is why I have said that no principle with us is a Law….its a principle,,,and principles are for whom? Principles are for those who obey faithfully…and laws are for those who disobey …(repeated)….so Laws are for those who do not listen and Principles are for those who faithfully obey.

Which is why Governments pass Laws and Prophethood(Nubuwwat) has Principles(repeated)……Principles(Guidelines) for Da’wa and Laws for Government…he who goes against the Law is punished….(but) there is no punishment for one who contravenes our guidelines(principles)…(you can’t say) ask him why he went against the Principles…there is (simply) no such concept with us…because all our principles and guidelines are just principles which are for faithful obedience(ita'at=to listen and obey) and (this) obedience is (achieved) by encouragement(targheeb)…that they be encouraged towards working rightly….that’s all….no one has a greater right than this…. Because the Da’ii is responsible for reminding…And remind, for indeed, the reminder benefits the believers” Sura Ad Dhariyaat v.55….that remind them of the right thing…so the Da’ii is responsible for reminding what the principles and guidelines are…..that’s it..which is why my dear friends and elders…the principles(all) of this work are not Laws because (breaking) Laws entails punishment…which is why we have a discussion and reminding of principles here not a listing of mistakes…there is no punishment….because those who do this work are humans…..not angels….and our workers will make mistakes and break principles..they are human and the human is intrinsically prone to error…. In the hadith it is mentioned that all of you are sinners…no one is free of error…….small or large…different….but all are sinners…. So the fact is that one sees the mistakes of others when his eyes are upon his own achievements and qualities (repeated)….then his eyes will definitely chance upon the faults of others….and he who keeps looking at his own weaknesses…he will never look at the faults of others…he will never bother with thinking evil about others….or their faults…...because what he sees in others…he has already glimpsed in himself….and this has lead to a sense of worry and sorrow regarding his own self in his heart… Hadrat ‘Umar saw an old man drinking alcohol….so he came out of that place weeping…the incident is detailed….the reason that he was crying was his own mistake of entering and searching for the old man’s fault in his house…he was not crying because his people were drinking..rather his crying was (what) if Allah did not forgive ‘Umar…so he was crying for his sin…..(to be continued).

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.........rather we will not be able to establish a reformative relationship with this work (Tabligh). Maulwi Ilyas(ra) sahab used to say, "This work is Wali producing....it(by itself) can turn people into Walis". If one does not have (absolute) certitude of success, spiritual reformation, guidance and forward progress with the work......then the work will be taken lightly and discarded........which is why my respected brothers, friends and elders......what we need most is belief in the work and full understanding so that we develop firmness and fortitude (istiqama) in this work.....if one does not believe in it...then he will take it lightly and leave it....and moreover the work will be considered as ineffective and abandoned.... because the effectiveness (ta'seer) ....the effectiveness of this work is dependent upon the sacrifices that are made for it......if the sacrifices and demands of this work remain unfulfilled...then the effects of the work will not stand forth....that's why my respected friends, elders and brothers....first of all we must ask Allah for clear knowledge & full understanding (Baseerat)....so that Allah gives us belief (yaqin) and knowledge.......for one's firmness in this work will depend upon his Baseerat (understanding)...and depending upon his fortitude and firmness will Allah accept him.....4 points are important for us.........I would like to say 4 things.....1)Belief and knowledge in the work(yaqin and baseera).....2)unity(ijtimaaiyat) regarding the work.....3) Perfection and comprehensiveness (Jaami’iyyat) in carrying out the work…4) Sifat-e-qubuliyyat….qualities which make one acceptable to Allah….making oneself acceptable to Allah(for the work of Da’wa) with one’s good qualities. So the first thing is this …remember that the Anbiya (asws) used to call with full understanding & knowledge (Baseerat) …..whatever trials, whatever obstacles were placed by their people…(such as) refusal to accept their da’wa….whatever came in their way was unable to stop them….they used to complete their work…because they were absolutely convinced that their success lay in what they were doing. So my respected friends, elders and brothers, the secret of remaining firm in this work (Da’wa) is that we do this for our own selves, that we understand what Da’wa is, what are the effects of Da’wa, why it is given and for whom it is given. Look! Da’wa is actually for the Daa’ii himself. In the quest for correcting (islah) others, let us never forget ourselves. Let it not happen that we seek to correct others and become careless of our own (spiritual needs)…for remember that Da’wa is for the Daa’ii himself. Hadrat (rah) used to say, “Do this work for (the correction of) your own self. He who does it for himself (considering himself muhtaj) will become Saleh (pious). And Allah Rabb al ‘Izzat, will use him for the correction of the Ummah”. That is why inviting to good and stopping from evil is actually for our selves. We used to do this work in the beginning for our own selves, later on we were moved as per the needs of the people. This way of thinking (that we were doing something for others) made us forget ourselves (i.e. the older members), it made us forget that our talking and our working and all our efforts were all for our own selves (in actuality). The second thing…is that we believe with our hearts that this work is enough for our self reformation and self correction….Allah forbid if we do not hold this belief in our hearts then our relationship to this work will no longer remain corrective…So the effort and the moving around, its spirit is Da’wa…Maulwi Ilyas(rah) used to say that this is just the skeleton of the work, its soul is Da’wa……the entire thing is a framework…whether the effort or the worship..it is a skeleton and it will come to life through da’wa..otherwise this work…this work[effort] is like a body…..the entire benefits(ifaadiyaat) of this body….its moving around…all its achievements(manfa'at)…… are dependent upon its soul..hence we need to believe in it. The Qur’an has sworn that humanity is in loss and cannot come out of this loss without da’wa (repeated twice). Those people will be saved from loss ….they will achieve salvation….who have 4 things in them….Faith, good deeds, inviting others towards faith and good deeds..(repeated)….inviting others towards good and stopping them from evil. Inviting towards faith and good deeds..this is also a condition for salvation like faith and good deeds themselves. The ‘Ulama have written that these are the four conditions for salvation (najaat). Faith (Iman), good deeds (amal al Saleh), Tawasee bi’l Haqq (calling towards Haqq), tawasee bi’s sabr (calling towards patience). If even one is left out, then (all) the conditions for salvation will not be met. Hence workers must believe that this Ummah cannot come out of its state of loss without the work of Da’wa. The second thing is this; Something that was seen in the times of all Prophets (asws) was that when that (particular) Nabi passed on, then the work of da’wa went and then the Din went. When the Messenger came, Da’wa came and Din came. So in every era and time, the Din remained dependent upon Da’wa. This is the end result of every era. When the Nabi went, Da’wa went and finally the Din went. And today also, all the evil in the world, all the innovations in Din and all the evils and carelessness..(that we see around us)…..there is no way that the Muslim Nation can come out of it or escape it except through Da’wa. My friends, elders and brothers, I am saying this because the method and way of working is becoming (seemingly) more important while Da’wa (itself), its truth(and depth), its need and belief in it…all this is becoming weaker….our workers need to have belief in it so that firmness in the work is per faith and belief and as per one’s firmness (in the work) will the demands of this work be fulfilled. So the first thing is that we have belief in this work……the other thing my friends and elders is that there be unity and single-mindedness in us…what does Ijtimaayiyat mean? It refers to the union of (our) hearts……The Jama’h is not a collection of bodies/people…a mass of people is a crowd(repeated) …and unity of hearts is known as ijtimaayiyat. If two men are offering Salah (namaz) in Jam’ah..then it will be said that this is a Jam’ah….prayer in Jama’h is taking place…If there is an ameer and a Jama’h is with him, then it will be called a Jama’h…..because they are on faithful obedience(ita’at)…the follower(muqtadi) follows the Imam(repeated) and the Jama’h follows the amir..so it will be said that it is a jam’ah….(however) if there is no union of hearts then it will be a crowd. My respected friends, this unity of hearts has conditions (behind it).

The Qur’an has given four reasons for unity….the first reason and condition is that there be gentleness(and softness) in the workers(of Din)…this is the first reason….because the principles of this work are not Laws. Excessiveness(and intolerance) raises its head when people consider the principles of the work to be Laws….so that (they think) that this Law was passed or this Law was decided….which is why I have said that no principle with us is a Law….its a principle,,,and principles are for whom? Principles are for those who obey faithfully…and laws are for those who disobey …(repeated)….so Laws are for those who do not listen and Principles are for those who faithfully obey.

Which is why Governments pass Laws and Prophethood(Nubuwwat) has Principles(repeated)……Principles(Guidelines) for Da’wa and Laws for Government…he who goes against the Law is punished….(but) there is no punishment for one who contravenes our guidelines(principles)…(you can’t say) ask him why he went against the Principles…there is (simply) no such concept with us…because all our principles and guidelines are just principles which are for faithful obedience(ita'at=to listen and obey) and (this) obedience is (achieved) by encouragement(targheeb)…that they be encouraged towards working rightly….that’s all….no one has a greater right than this…. Because the Da’ii is responsible for reminding…And remind, for indeed, the reminder benefits the believers” Sura Ad Dhariyaat v.55….that remind them of the right thing…so the Da’ii is responsible for reminding what the principles and guidelines are…..that’s it..which is why my dear friends and elders…the principles(all) of this work are not Laws because (breaking) Laws entails punishment…which is why we have a discussion and reminding of principles here not a listing of mistakes…there is no punishment….because those who do this work are humans…..not angels….and our workers will make mistakes and break principles..they are human and the human is intrinsically prone to error…. In the hadith it is mentioned that all of you are sinners…no one is free of error…….small or large…different….but all are sinners…. So the fact is that one sees the mistakes of others when his eyes are upon his own achievements and qualities (repeated)….then his eyes will definitely chance upon the faults of others….and he who keeps looking at his own weaknesses…he will never look at the faults of others…he will never bother with thinking evil about others….or their faults…...because what he sees in others…he has already glimpsed in himself….and this has lead to a sense of worry and sorrow regarding his own self in his heart… Hadrat ‘Umar saw an old man drinking alcohol….so he came out of that place weeping…the incident is detailed….the reason that he was crying was his own mistake of entering and searching for the old man’s fault in his house…he was not crying because his people were drinking..rather his crying was (what) if Allah did not forgive ‘Umar…so he was crying for his sin.(to be continued)

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(can bbo abu tamim or another bro use this format and then colour code it so it can be easily read by others, i will then delete my post,jazakallah)

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Salam alaykum brother Shaykh.
I did not understand why you have copied my post again?
Any reason?
you mean the font?