[meridiasas]

1 week in the woods with nothing except what you can carry on your backs.

-Minimum food, so you'll have to hunt or fish.
-No technology, so your not distracted
-Learn to pray by the position of the sun
-take time to reflect on the creation
-come back with a sense of gratitude for modern-day amenities

Good idea/Bad idea? suggestions?

[Lt_Apple]

hmm considering most guys are scared of spiders in the modern world...i doubt they would last that long

[bumxumer]

1 week in the woods with nothing except what you can carry on your backs.

-Minimum food, so you'll have to hunt or fish.
-No technology, so your not distracted
-Learn to pray by the position of the sun
-take time to reflect on the creation
-come back with a sense of gratitude for modern-day amenities

Good idea/Bad idea? suggestions?

Very good idea, you can go there to disconnect from the world and in the environment of nature you tend to lose the attachment and reflect more on life and the heareafter

I did this a few months back, stayed in the wilderness of africa, but we did have a casket full of t-bone steaks

[DoctorNelsonOnten]

in the u.k or u.s dont do wild camping i think its illegal
has to be a registered campsite

if you can do wild camping as its called let youre local councillors and local police know too,
do it as an open event ,even advertise it openly,

then where you go to camp let local people there know,again local police etc

this is to save you from being pulled in for terrorist training

dont do it quitely and as some quite secret endeavour

best of all do it with a known youth group,advertised

[bumxumer]

in the u.k or u.s dont do wild camping i think its illegal
has to be a registered campsite

if you can do wild camping as its called let youre local councillors and local police know too,
do it as an open event ,even advertise it openly,

then where you go to camp let local people there know,again local police etc

this is to save you from being pulled in for terrorist training

dont do it quitely and as some quite secret endeavour

best of all do it with a known youth group,advertised

Very good advise, otherwise they would think that we are making part 2 of "four lions"

Bro ahmed i want to email you regarding a earlier thread of yours about your "experiences and advise", can the mods if bro ahmed wishes pass my email to him or vise versa

[tickerinet]

In addition to the excellent advice already offered here - always let people know where you're going and why...

From what I know, backcountry camping/hiking is permitted in North America in certain areas but with regulations and restrictions. For example, where fishing and hunting are allowed, you may need a fishing license to fish and a hunting license to hunt. Also, you may be restricted to certain areas and times for fishing and/or hunting. You may even need a license to use the waterways (canoing or kayaking). For camping/hiking, you may need to pay park fees to stay in, enjoy and use national/provincial parks. Some parks may not allow fires at all and others may have fire bans in effect due to weather conditions. You might want to get details on animal activity (particularly bears, cougars, etc.) and educate yourselves on how to store your food (especially if you are hunting/fishing) and what to do to avoid confrontations with wild animals and how to deal with them if they do occur... and definitely make sure each participant is equipped with bear spray (it does expire so make sure the stuff is fresh). It is nice that you want to disconnect with the world but if you are going without a guide and are going to be a group of green city boys roughing it out... you might want to take a device such as a SPOT.

No matter how small the expedition is, be sure most are comfortable using a compass (definitely make sure each member is equipped with one) and definitely take a topo map and learn how to use/read it before you head out.

Never leave anyone behind... some people are slower than others so the fastest must be ready to set his pace at the pace of the slowest member. When at your campsite, make sure no one ever ventures away from the group on their own.

As for packing, you'd be surprised how much and how little people can take and make due with. It might be better to set a weight limit and to do a dry run one afternoon in a park so members get a sense of how difficult it really can be after carrying the backpack for a few hours. That should make them want to really focus on the essentials and look into how they can minimize their load.

All said and done, be mindful of your environment and weather conditions and dress appropriately (in layers with some sort of wicking layer first) and be sure boots are sprayed to water-proof them... oh, this brings up another matter: make sure no one travels with new footwear on! You will be dealing with nasty blisters the entire trip and this will take away from the experience in a big way... make sure everyone has is wearing well worn sturdy, water resistant/proof hiking boots (better than shoes as they protect the ankles too). In areas where there are ticks, you might want to consider packing some gaiters too.

Gosh... books have been written on this. All in all a great idea... go for it, but go prepared, educated and letting people know where you will be (leave a copy of a map with the trail you will be taking clearly marked).

[DoctorNelsonOnten]

Very good advise, otherwise they would think that we are making part 2 of "four lions"

Bro ahmed i want to email you regarding a earlier thread of yours about your "experiences and advise", can the mods if bro ahmed wishes pass my email to him or vise versa

you can put it up in brothers section

[meridiasas]

Wow. thank you, May Allah reward you all for the recommendations.