[FliveGell]

From Prof. Julian Baldick's "Imaginary Muslims: The Uwaysi Sufis of Central Asia":

One important late source for the legend of Uways is the Syrian historian Dhahabi (d. 1348). He explains that earlier writers, notably the most respectable of all Tradition-collectors, Bukhari (d. 870), had expressed doubts about pedigrees in which Uways's name appeared. Indeed, one of the founder of Islamic law, Malik of Medina (d. 796), had denied Uways's very existence. [Muhammad Dahabi, Ta'rikh al-Islam, vol. 2 (Cairo: Maktaba al-Qudsi, 1368/1949), pp. 173-5)]

[objennasweene]

No he was not a fictional character. There are authentic ahadith regarding Uways al-Qarni. Even Umar Ibn al-Khattab (r.a) saw and talked to him.

[icerrelmCam]

Is the story about him knocking out his teeth true?

[Poowssnople]

Our belief that Uways Qarni existed isn't dependent on Imam Malik, Sayyiduna Rasulullah told us about him and his great merit, such that many considered him the best of the Tabi' (after him Ibn al-Musayyib or Hasan al-Basri).

[SpyRemo]

Is the story about him knocking out his teeth true?

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...r-Rasool/page3



maybe this is usedul

[patuvammnogoo]

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[sirmzereigMix]

Salaam Aleikum.

Uwais al Qarni (may allah be pleased with him), is very much a real person.

He was known to knock his tooth and became a martyr in one of Imam Ali (as) battles. I think it was in the battle of siffeen against muawiyah(correct me if im wrong).

Salaam

[marcusdexz]

In Sahih Muslim there is: Chapter 55: THE MERITS OF Uwais QARANI (ALLAH BE PLEASED WITH HIM):

Usair b. Jabir reported that a delegation from Kufa came to 'Umar and there was a person amongst them who jeered at Uwais. Thereupon Umar said: Is there amongst us one from Qaran? That person came and Umar said: Verily Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) has said: There would come to you a person from Yemen who would be called Uwais and he would leave none in Yemen (behind him) except his mother, and he would have the whiteness (due to leprosy) and he supplicated Allah and it was cured except for the size of a dinar or dirham. He who amongst you meets him should ask him to supplicate for forgiveness (from Allah) for you. (Book #031, Hadith #6170)

'Umar b. Khattab reported: I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Worthy amongst the successors would be a person who would be called Uwais. He would have his mother (living with him) and he would have (a small) sign of leprosy. Ask him to beg pardon for you (from Allah). (Book #031, Hadith #6171)

Usair b. Jabir reported that when people from Yemen came to help (the Muslim army at the time of jihad) he asked them: Is there amongst you Uwais b. 'Amir? (He continued finding him out) until he met Uwais. He said: Are you Uwais b., Amir? He said: Yes. He said: Are you from the tribe of Qaran? He said: Yes. He (Hadrat) 'Umar (again) said: Did you suffer from leprosy and then you were cured from it but for the space of a dirham? He said: Yes. He ('Umar) said: Is your mother (living)? He said: Yes. He ('Umar) said: I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) say: There would come to you Uwais b. Amir with the reinforcement from the people of Yemen. (He would be) from Qaran, (the branch) of Murid. He had been suffering from leprosy from which he was cured but for a spot of a dirham. His treatment with his mother would have been excellent. If he were to take an oath in the name of Allah, He would honour that. And if it is possible for you, then do ask him to beg forgiveness for you (from your Lord). So he (Uwais) begged forgiveness for him. Umar said: Where do you intend to go? He said: To Kufa. He ('Umar) said: Let me write a letter for you to its governor, whereupon he (Uwais) said: I love to live amongst the poor people. When it was the next year, a person from among the elite (of Kufa) performed Hajj and he met Umar. He asked him about Uwais. He said: I left him in a state with meagre means of sustenance. (Thereupon) Umar said: I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: There would come to you Uwais b. 'Amir, of Qaran, a branch (of the tribe) of Murid, along with the reinforcement of the people of Yemen. He had been suffering from leprosy which would have been cured but for the space of a dirham. His treatment with his mother would have been very kind. If he would take an oath in the name of Allah (for something) He would honour it. Ask him to beg forgiveness for you (from Allah) in case it is possible for you. So he came to Uwais and said.: Beg forgiveness (from Allah) for me. He (Uwais) said: You have just come from a sacred journey (Hajj) ; you, therefore, ask forgiveness for me. He (the person who had performed Hajj) said: Ask forgiveness for me (from Allah). He (Uwais again) said: You have just come from the sacred journey, so you ask forgiveness for me. (Uwais further) said: Did you meet Umar? He said: Yes. He (Uwais) then begged forgiveness for him (from Allah). So the people came to know about (the status of religious piety) of Uwais. He went away (from that place). Usair said: His clothing consisted of a mantle, and whosoever saw him said: From where did Uwais get this mantle? (Book #031, Hadith #6172)

[lidersontop]

Shias have fabricated stories on uwais al qarni RA...but He was not a fictional character

[RichardFG435]

Shias have fabricated stories on uwais al qarni RA...but He was not a fictional character

Sufis also propagate false stories...

[HsSp82U8]

al-Halabi (in his Seerah al-Halabiyyah) quotes the story of Uways al-Qarni breaking his tooth from al-Sha'rani's book Tabaqat al-Kubra:

السيرة الحلبية
http://www.almeshkat.net/books/open....ok=2409&cat=44

ورأيت في الطبقات لمولانا الشيخ عبد الوهاب الشعراني نفعنا الله ببركاته، أن أويساً القرني كان مشغولاً بخدمة والدته، فلذلك لم يجتمع بالنبيّ .
وقد روي أنه اجتمع به مرات وحضر معه وقعة أحد وقال: والله ما كسرت رباعيته حتى كسرت رباعيتي ولا شجّ وجهه الشريف حتى شجّ وجهي، ولا وطىء ظهره حتى وطىء ظهري، قال: هكذا رأيت هذا الكلام في بعض المؤلفات والله أعلم بالحال

The Story of Uwais al-Qarni Breaking His Own Teeth
http://seekersguidance.org/ans-blog/...his-own-teeth/

Wallahu A'lam.

[nintenda]

Sufis also propagate false stories...

I thought deobandis were sufis too..or are you of the wahhabi variant?

[RichardFG435]

I thought deobandis were sufis too..or are you of the wahhabi variant?

It is a fact (some if not many) sufis use dubious reports to promote deviant ideologies.
May be you wouldn't have asked the question if I used the term 'barelwis'. I mentioned sufis because we like to discredit shi'as for distorting reports amongst other things yet when sufis (aka "traditional scholars") do so we remain silent.

Wassalam.

[nintenda]

It is a fact (some if not many) sufis use dubious reports to promote deviant ideologies.
May be you wouldn't have asked the question if I used the term 'barelwis'. I mentioned sufis because we like to discredit shi'as for distorting reports amongst other things yet when sufis (aka "traditional scholars") do so we remain silent.

Wassalam.

Aren't deobandi ulema traditional scholars too, or are you suggesting they are modernists?

[HsSp82U8]

^ I think it's called sarcasm

[medprof]

Uwais Qarni ra is real .... Haven't met him though but hey i have met this guy who shows you the way when you are lost.