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Asalam o Aleikum brothers and sisters.

Its not been a much time since I've been attached to silsila e Owaisia, may be some 7 or 8 months but my experience of doing zikr at silsila e owaisia is unexplainable. There are no words which can decorate the rainbows that Zikr creates in your heart. I have been reading this forum and found many posts that maligned the Shaykh of Silsila e Owaisia Akram Awan Sahb. Reading all that pushed me to register here and make a post.

Before I go any further, I must tell you I am not here to open my identity or anything.

Dear Friends, You know being a human, it hurts when you read bad things about the person you love the most. I tell you, I didn't intend to love my Shaykh ever but Its a strange phenomena that with the passage of time, I fell in love with him. There are people who are saying different things against him, I ask you, How can thousand of people be follower of one wrong many, among them many have strong kashf.

I too am by the will of Allah swt, a sahib e Kashf, and by yet I have not seen a single thing in my Shaykh which is against the Shariat. And yes he is not a typical Pir Faqir, he has MashAllah great 'Zauq' for everything.

I am in peace Allhumdullilah by the grace of Allah swt. Silsila e Naqshbandia Owaisia has huge number of Barkats, as when I see the amount or concentration of anwaarat entering your heart, I am often flabbergasted. Praises be to Allah swt.

Please pray for my Istakamat.

May Allah swt guide all of us.

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which group are you actually with?

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Brother

"have been reading this forum and found many posts that maligned the Shaykh of Silsila e Owaisia Akram Awan Sahb."

I guess that makes it clear, the only biggest group having spiritual followers in millions all over the world.

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xs11

Brother

"have been reading this forum and found many posts that maligned the Shaykh of Silsila e Owaisia Akram Awan Sahb."

I guess that makes it clear, the only biggest group having spiritual followers in millions all over the world.

wow millions!

even bigger than tabligh jamaat?

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Not just that, I was reading a person saying that his body guard doesn't keeps beard, Don't you think this is the most ill comment I have ever seen.

If my own son comes out to be a thief, should I be blamed? Why on earth would you malign a person for his bodyguard then?

Plus as I have seen his body guards, all of them keep beard but please dont make it a point to malign him. And tell me, if sometime your own body guard doesn't keeps beard, would you put knife on his neck and ask him to keep beard? That was a real illogical thing to say.

Anyway Moreover

Shaikh Akram Awan sahb has written Tafsir of Quran, and has recently came out with Translation of Quran as well. Please donot say, some of his sub-ordinate has written it.

Also there were people calling him Illiterate, Do you really need a 8 years course of Dars e Nazami when you've spent 25 years with Mulana Allah Yar Khan RA who is an institution in himself? Plus is this the criteria for a Shaikh to have a doctorate degree, if yes, Haji Imdad Ullah Mahajir Makki RA was a zameendar, and so many other great Aulia's were illiterate in terms of Wordly education, yet Allah has blessed my Shaikh to be good at everything, let it be philosophy, economics, business or anything.

You know, blacksheeps are everywhere, and I am sure there must have been in this silsila too, but who cares about them, the real problem occurs when people start to point the majority for one person or two. Hypocrites were in all era's including the era of Prophet SAW.

May Allah guide all of us.

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Is that a taunt brother? I have a deep respect for Tableegi Jamat. A real deep respect.

I am here for constructive discussion, really not to curse people or jamats, neither I am here to have fun by enjoying or doing sarcasm.

Allah knows best.

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ok lets get constructive.

first tell me how you know there are millions in the akram awan naqshbandi owaisi silsilah and can you show proof of this?

the reason i am asking is because most people have never heard of this silsilah. even the ulama of pakistan have not heard of this silsilah. some brothers sent a message to some ulama in pakistan asking about naqshbandi owaisi and received the message which basically said we do not know who they are. i will search my emails to find this. might take some time if i do find it, but i will try.

in the UK this silsilah operates in just a few towns. i have been to their main monthly majlis in birmingham and i believe at most i have seen 20-30 people there. hardly the turn out expected of a silsilah with millions of followers.

so tell. where do you get this millions of followers claim from?

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Dear Brother, It is really an irrelevant question which doesn't have anything to do with Shariat and Islam nor it does effect any of us.

Do you have any better question to ask?

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More or less, it is like asking, show me proof millions of galaxies in the universe, have you counted them? I am sorry but really absurd thing to say.

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Dear Brother, It is really an irrelevant question which doesn't have anything to do with Shariat and Islam nor it does effect any of us.

Do you have any better question to ask?

no i dont have a better question.

you made a claim and i am asking you to substantiate it.

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It doesn't has anything to do with Tariqat or method of Tariqat but an irrelevant question.

I will face a powercut, you may post any other question which InshAllah i'll respond when I get back.

Laters for now!

Salam O Aleikum, God bless all.

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More or less, it is like asking, show me proof millions of galaxies in the universe, have you counted them? I am sorry but really absurd thing to say.

no its not.

i can give you proof of the huge numbers of people in tabligh jamaat.

tabligh jamaat is known all over the world.

they can be found in most cities and towns.

they have huge gatherings all over the world.

ALL the ulama of pakistan know them.

so tell me. how do we know owaisi has millions of followers?

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It doesn't has anything to do with Tariqat or method of Tariqat but an irrelevant question.

I will face a powercut, you may post any other question which InshAllah i'll respond when I get back.

Laters for now!

Salam O Aleikum, God bless all.

it is not an irrelevant question. it is based on a claim that you made.

can you answer the question please?

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I stand by what I have said sir, but I won't make effort to indulge in an absurd debate out of which comes nothing.

Come up with a better question.

No more replies from me for this absurd thing. There's nothing but an urge inside you to stand winning and degrade me. I am out of it

Allah bless all

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I stand by what I have said sir, but I won't make effort to indulge in an absurd debate out of which comes nothing.

Come up with a better question.

No more replies from me for this absurd thing. There's nothing but an urge inside you to stand winning and degrade me. I am out of it

Allah bless all

ok. you cant substantiate your claim. fine. say that then instead of beating around the bush.

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I too am by the will of Allah swt, a sahib e Kashf

Can you give some examples of your Kashf?

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Can you give some examples of your Kashf?

No brother, I cannot as my Tarbiyat is not done this way. Kashf is no doubt a blessing of Allah swt but its neither a mission nor the end, Allah Qadir hai iss baat pe k kisi ko kuch bhe atta karde.

And I don't either mind if you consider that I lied about Kashf.

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No brother, I cannot as my Tarbiyat is not done this way. Kashf is no doubt a blessing of Allah swt but its neither a mission nor the end, Allah Qadir hai iss baat pe k kisi ko kuch bhe atta karde.

And I don't either mind if you consider that I lied about Kashf.

ok. you tell us akram awan has millions of followers, but you do not want to substantiate the claim.

you tell us you have kashf but decline to show examples of your kashf.

can you at least answer this next question?

the following is a scan that was handed out in one of the owaisi majlis i attended. can you substantiate the claim that this prophecy was regarding akram awan please?

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ok. you tell us akram awan has millions of followers, but you do not want to substantiate the claim.

you tell us you have kashf but decline to show examples of your kashf.

can you at least answer this next question?

the following is a scan that was handed out in one of the owaisi majlis i attended. can you substantiate the claim that this prophecy was regarding akram awan please?

May be you should ask the person who gave this prophecy, I have no knowledge regarding it. Allah knows it best.

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May be you should ask the person who gave this prophecy, I have no knowledge regarding it. Allah knows it best.

this was handed out by the owaisi 'ameer' of northern england. he was made ameer of this area by the UK majaz of akram awan who is called zameer.

the passage is meant to be from shah nimatullah. the ameer claimed that the passages are referring to akram awan.

colonel hardstone made some enquiries into this passage and found that the whole passage is fabricated. no such passage appears in the writings of shah nimatullah.