[GrileVege]

Assalaamu Alaikum wa rahmatullah,

I think some of us were (inc. myself) conditioned to believe that we should e.g. hate kufr and not the kaafir.

My question is - how Islamic is this concept?

E.g. In Aqeedah Tahawiyyah, it is stated:

83. We love the people of justice and trustworthiness, and we hate the people of injustice and treachery.

So the respected Imam RA did not say "we hate injustice and treachery". This is corroborated by Shaykh Naruji's (a contemporary Ash'ari scholar) short commentary: "We love the people of justice which is to obey Allah and trustworthiness, and we hate the people of injustice and treachery, not just their deeds and beliefs, as some absurdly claim, but the people themselves. After all, Allah punishes perpetrators, not perpetrations"

Also, to play devil's advocate further - if we are saying we hate kufr but not the kaafir, why don't we apply this on the flip side e.g. we love righteousness but the not the righteous people per se. (Logic may be a bit invalid here but nonetheless....)

Wassalam

[GrileVege]

Shaykh Ibn Abi al-Izz RA comments:
Allah loves those who are righteous, pious, ever repentant and pure. And we love whom Allah loves. Since Allah does not love those who are dishonest, mischievous and haughty, we also do not love them; we rather hate them just as Allah hates them.

[FateHostera]

The people who love Allah look by the light of Allah, and they are compassionate with those who disobey Allah. They hate their actions but show mercy to them so that through their admonitions they might leave their actions. They are afraid that the Fire will consume their bodies. The believer will not truly be a believer until he is pleased for people to have what he is pleased for himself.

[Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali , Jami’ Ulum wa'l Hikam]

I think that the section of Tahawiyya is referring to those who have deliberately chosen the path of persistent sin. Please confirm with a scholar.

[FateHostera]

The following two links might also benefit:

http://alhaadi.org.za/articles-publi...he-sinner.html

http://www.darululoom.org.uk/2011/03...e-disbeliever/

[Jeaxatoem]

The following two links might also benefit:

http://alhaadi.org.za/articles-publi...he-sinner.html

http://www.darululoom.org.uk/2011/03...e-disbeliever/

If you start hating the sinner , tomorrow if he does a good deed you will turn a blind eye to it because of the hate for him inside you.

Now here is my Ques Dr. ?

Why do people say you shouldn't call a kaafir too kaafir ?

Where did they get this from ? I see this specially from People of the sub continent.

Surah -AL kafirun says something else.



Note : If i call a person kaafir i will be calling him kaafir based on his present situation not that i posses Ilm-Gahyb and know that person will die on kufr. That's shirk man !

[FateHostera]

If you start hating the sinner , tomorrow if he does a good deed you will turn a blind eye to it because of the hate for him inside you.

Now here is my Ques Dr. ?

Why do people say you shouldn't call a kaafir too kaafir ?

Where did they get this from ? I see this specially from People of the sub continent.

Surah -AL kafirun says something else.



Note : If i call a person kaafir i will be calling him kaafir based on his present situation not that i posses Ilm-Gahyb and know that person will die on kufr. That's shirk man !

Perhaps they mean to say that non-Muslims who are sympathetic or willing to lend a ear to Islam should not be referred to in this manner, despite the fact that they are literally kafirs because of the negative connotations of the term and the potential harm that it could do to da'wah to a non-Muslim.

[hrotedk]

I think we should not move very close to the non-muslims to the effect they become fitna for us and our deen is affected and we compromise the deen. As far as being polite and kind to them, as such these should be the qualities of a Muslims and I think it is because of this, many were attracted to our beloved Prophet SAW and accepted Islam. Allahu alam
Sympathy towards them to save from hell is a good thing. Our beloved Prophet SAW was merciful than any of us. As far as there is balance, then Alhamdulillah. Allahu alam

[tLO0hFNy]

To a simpleton like me , I tend to paint the world and relationship with Allah with a wide brush.

Allah himself says he is most patient and most loving to his creation. Also most kind and forgiving.

Now someone who calls towards Allah and makes dawah to Allah's sinful creations
displaying contradictory attitude will not get much results.

But saying wrong is wrong and right is right has no middle ground.

I think it was one of Tariq Jameel's bayans that I heard him say the best form of showing 'Rahmah' to Allah's creation is reconnecting them with the love of Allah as you are potentially saving them from the hell fire.

This video might explain his views a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP6855n4vOI

[Ephejvll]

Assalamu alaykum

Are we muslims in India are living in state of hypocrisy . We hate the non-muslims, but in our day to day life, in our office, in our business, with our neighbors we maintain good relationship, we praise them for their good acts and timely help etc.

And also when we offer a copy of translation of Quran to a non-muslim and he accepts it, we shower words of praises on him, but in our heart we have hatred towards him. Is it hypocrisy or a diplomacy?

Why not just love them as a human being? Definitely we would protect and love our Muslim brothers and sisters more, as they are the ones who understand us more than anyone else, also they share the same hardship as us all. But that doesn't mean to ignore others, as we should strive for justice for everyone.

Also I don't think it's wrong to praise good acts by anyone. If you can gain rewards and forgiveness for helping a thirsty dog, then the more rewards for the kind acts towards other fellow human being.

If I am wrong, kindly correct my mistakes.

Allahualam.

[GrileVege]

Salaam

I think Br. Abu Tamim hit the nail on the head. I remember reading some excerpts from Ma'ariful Quran on this issue e.g. 3 levels of friendship. InshaAllah I will try to find them and post them here for the benefit of the SF members.

However, one thing was clear through what I read - the ones who are bent on fighting the muslims, the hatred for them has to be apparent. Perhaps this is what the learned commentators meant when explaining the Tahawiyyah. Hating their disbelief is not sufficient in this case.

“O you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies (i.e. disbelievers and polytheists) as friends, showing affection towards them, while they have disbelieved in what has come to you of the truth” [al-Mumtahinah 60:1]

“Indeed there has been an excellent example for you in Ibraaheem (Abraham) and those with him, when they said to their people: ‘Verily, we are free from you and whatever you worship besides Allaah, we have rejected you, and there has started between us and you, hostility and hatred for ever until you believe in Allaah Alone’” [al-Mumtahinah 60:4]

Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion - [forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers. [al-Mumtahinah 60:8-9]