[citicroego]

When ever i quote Al-Quran 33;59 and 24 31 regarding Hijab, some people say that the ayat does not talk about the head scarf. I shall be grateful if you can guide me how I can reply to them satisfactorly.

[77Dinaartickire]

When ever i quote Al-Quran 33;59 and 24 31 regarding Hijab, some people say that the ayat does not talk about the head scarf. I shall be grateful if you can guide me how I can reply to them satisfactorly.

Well you don't need to quote 33:59 (Surah Al-Ahzaab) because Surah Al Ahzab is NOT for us , Muslims of today. If you read Qur'an with translation and with context (and commentary etc) , you'd know that those verses were revealed for a SPECIFIC purpose and in a SPECIFIC context and for SPECIAL reasons that appeared in Prophet's times.But today , we these verses don't apply to us ...So leave out that.

Now coming to Surah An Nur , yes there are different interpretations but generally it is accepted that this verse does talk about "Hijab" ....Remember , NOT "burka" but Hijab. But again , Hijab is not specifically mentioned so if anyone wants to take a different interpretation , let them do it. Its between them and Allah. And covering head is not everything. A person's heart must be pure/decent etc ....

Take Care.

[QQQQQ-Trek]

@ Auzer- May I ask who your tafseer teacher is?

[moopogyOvenny]

Well you don't need to quote 33:59 (Surah Al-Ahzaab) because Surah Al Ahzab is NOT for us , Muslims of today. If you read Qur'an with translation and with context (and commentary etc) , you'd know that those verses were revealed for a SPECIFIC purpose and in a SPECIFIC context and for SPECIAL reasons that appeared in Prophet's times.But today , we these verses don't apply to us ...So leave out that.

Now coming to Surah An Nur , yes there are different interpretations but generally it is accepted that this verse does talk about "Hijab" ....Remember , NOT "burka" but Hijab. But again , Hijab is not specifically mentioned so if anyone wants to take a different interpretation , let them do it. Its between them and Allah. And covering head is not everything. A person's heart must be pure/decent etc ....

Take Care.

Fear Allah You Heretic !

How dare you give an opinion from your side.

O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

The first part says about the wives of Prophet sallalhu alahi wa sallam
The second says about the daughters
The 3rd says about "women of believers"

[moopogyOvenny]

@ Auzer- May I ask who your tafseer teacher is?

Must be people like Javed Ghamdi

[77Dinaartickire]

Fear Allah You Heretic !

How dare you give an opinion from your side.

O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

The first part says about the wives of Prophet sallalhu alahi wa sallam
The second says about the daughters
The 3rd says about "women of believers"

The bold part made me laugh.

Yes , I know about the verses but these verses were revealed for that SPECIFIC situation (when hypocrites were trying to scandalize Muslim community and house of Prophet (SAW) ..Today , these verses are only important for historical research/understanding of that tribal society where Prophet lived. These verses are not for us. It is simple if you read Qur'an in context. Why making a big fuss about it? Many great scholars agree to what I am saying...so yeah ....

Must be people like Javed Ghamdi

And what is wrong with Javed Ahmed Ghamdi? He is a genuine scholar. One of the top religious mind of Sub-Continent. Well , you can disagree with him but just because he goes against your interpretation of Islamic studies , you'll start looking down upon him?

He is a great scholar and must be respected.

[EliteFranceska]

Auzer do you believe that the best of generations are the sahabah and the salaf? as is stated int he prophetic hadith.

the rest of us Muslims certainly do and thus we base our understanding of the deen (i.e. fiqh) ont he understanding of the salaf. the madhabs are one way of preserving and following the opinions of the salaf.

out of curiosity do you think the opinions of javed ahmed ghamidi or any other modern "scholar" are preferable to the salaf when they contradict the salaf?

[77Dinaartickire]

Auzer do you believe that the best of generations are the sahabah and the salaf? as is stated int he prophetic hadith.

the rest of us Muslims certainly do and thus we base our understanding of the deen (i.e. fiqh) ont he understanding of the salaf. the madhabs are one way of preserving and following the opinions of the salaf.

out of curiosity do you think the opinions of javed ahmed ghamidi or any other modern "scholar" are preferable to the salaf when they contradict the salaf?

Well all these questions you are asking are suppose to be rhetorical questions , right?

But things are more complicated and detailed than these. Sahabas were definitely better than us ...But Qur'an supercedes everything and everyone. Sahabas probably had specific reasons for doing what they did? Sometimes , they probably had to make decisions that they would not have made under normal circumstances? There are so many details around this subject. So please specifically ask what you want to ask...

[EliteFranceska]

Well all these questions you are asking are suppose to be rhetorical questions , right?

nope not at all you are in a state of error. in our deen there is room for valid difference of opinion. however it does not seem that your opinions fall within that scope. O wanted to know how valuable the salaf's opinions were in your eyes. then it would indicate, to the good members of the forum, which subjects you needed educating on. if you respected the salaf and held them in the highest esteem, but questioned the applicability of their opinions that would be one thing we would have to work on conversely, it could be that you actually couldn't care less about the salaf bdcause they got the deen allw rong and transmitted all the wrong fatwas to us. i wanted to know where exactly you went wrong, that's why I asked the questions.

while your right that many rulings are specific to certain conditions, it's not your place to determine what those conditions are it is the place of scholars of the highest eminence (mujtahids). as Muslims we understand that SOME rulings may change as circumstances change but not everyone can change the rulings as they please. seriously one needs to undergo rigorous training before making absolute statements and new interpretations which is what you have done precisely.

by the way you write it appears that you have very little actual scholarly/academic knowledge, you must recognize that in your ignorance there is the potential to mislead people regarding their deen, and Allah will hold people accountable for misrepresenting the deen. therefore i would encourage you not to issue your own fatwas (which are not in accordance with the jumhoor, regarding the burka or any thing else)...you're stepping into a lizard hole by doing so.

[sDePrx59]

When ever i quote Al-Quran 33;59 and 24 31 regarding Hijab, some people say that the ayat does not talk about the head scarf. I shall be grateful if you can guide me how I can reply to them satisfactorly.

Al Salamu 3alaikum,

Please view the following

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arXHPNoszGE
http://www.islam qa.info/en/ref/13998 (no space)
http://spa.qibla.com/issue_view.asp?...=5849&CATE=368
http://seekersguidance.org/ans-blog/...-is-the-proof/

Inshallah these resources can help you, Brother Auzer I don't even know where to start replying to you so I won't.

Also, at the end, I believe the choice is for the Sisters and we can't determine a Muslima's piety by her Hijab "اللهم أرنا الحق حقاً وارزقنا إتباعه وأرنا الباطل باطلاً وارزقنا اجتنابه " O Allah! Let us see the Truth as Truth, and bless us with following it. And show us the falsehood as falsehood, and bless by avoiding it"

[moopogyOvenny]

Well all these questions you are asking are suppose to be rhetorical questions , right?

But things are more complicated and detailed than these. Sahabas were definitely better than us ...But Qur'an supercedes everything and everyone. Sahabas probably had specific reasons for doing what they did? Sometimes , they probably had to make decisions that they would not have made under normal circumstances? There are so many details around this subject. So please specifically ask what you want to ask...

By any chance are you a Hadith Rejector ?

[77Dinaartickire]

By any chance are you a Hadith Rejector ?

No , I am not. But I am in favor of studying Hadiths in detail and giving them right interpretation , where needed.

[moopogyOvenny]

No , I am not. But I am in favor of studying Hadiths in detail and giving them right interpretation , where needed.

So till now for the past 1400yrs scholars have failed to give the right interpretation???

Ajeeb

[Teeppoodiug]

No , I am not. But I am in favor of studying Hadiths in detail and giving them right interpretation , where needed.

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Could you elaborate in which Madarasah and under which Shaykh did you study the Hadiths that you are claiming?
Do you have ANY idea what it takes to quote Ahadith? Do you have ANY idea that every single word you utter in case of deen, you have to justify that on the day of judgement?

[Gymnarnemia]

No , I am not. But I am in favor of studying Hadiths in detail and giving them right interpretation , where needed.

Audhibillah. But this also brings up a question of mine. Which is more sinful; to acknowledge sinning but not having to reform (the self's) Islam, or to reform Islam to change the concept of sin? Right now my side is that I'm personally towards the former as the latter makes deviation of potentially masses, IMO. But this is just my musing as I await an answer.

[citicroego]

Dear Alharith,
I think you are confused about the topic. Secondly I do not understand your question. Actualy the topic is weather Allah's revelation 24:31 and 33:59 includes the HEAD COVER or not.
Some scholars say that it is not obligatory for women to cover the HEAD when wearing HIJAB.