[QQQQQ-Trek]

Thank you brother. I have only been a Muslima for little over a month. I am still learning. I could have sponsored any child from any country, but I chose to sponsor a Muslim child from Pakistan. I pray that Allah (swt) sees me doing this out of compassion for another human being and that I am being good for Him alone.

MashaAllah. May Allah continue taking good works from you. Ameen.

[JulieSmithdccd]

About the link in the OP.
Amidst all the mayhem around her Allah(SWT) gave her a wonderful dish.
And He (SWT) is the best of the providers.

[QQQQQ-Trek]

About the link in the OP.
Amidst all the mayhem around her Allah(SWT) gave her a wonderful dish.
And He (SWT) is the best of the providers.

That is true, for pointing that out.

[Glanteeignile]

About the link in the OP.
Amidst all the mayhem around her Allah(SWT) gave her a wonderful dish.
And He (SWT) is the best of the providers.

"Be not sad, surely Allah is with us."
"Verily, with hardship comes ease".

[Glanteeignile]

If anyone wants to help a Muslim kid study or provide ration for a widow and her family or help with a Muslim's treatment for major medical and surgical conditions in Bombay, then he can get in contact with me. It could be a onetime help or extended.

[itaspCatCriny]

Assalamu alaykum

What we do here is; adopt a orphan and admit he/she in a well organised madrasah (they offer hygenic food, washing machine facility etc). Bear all the expenses till his/her stay in madrasah. The child will get deeni education. Normally people adopt 1 to 5 children.

I think this is great and if there are people who can make time daily or even once or twice a week to go to the children and spend time with them to give them those things that are beyond the essentials of food, clothing, shelter etc. they need to feel love and attention too. I keep going back to that video with the child climbing all over his father... the way Rasulullah's (SAW) grandchildren would climb on him while he was praying... can they do that too? There's something in that intimate moment with someone they trust. That's lacking in a lot of care facilities where everything about the child's day is regulated, scheduled, structured.

[itaspCatCriny]

If anyone wants to help a Muslim kid study or provide ration for a widow and her family or help with a Muslim's treatment for major medical and surgical conditions in Bombay, then he can get in contact with me. It could be a onetime help or extended.

May Allah (SWT) reward you greatly for your efforts.

[itaspCatCriny]

^ Is that so? Most people I know from the subcontinent are very averse to adoption, and very verbose about it. Just yesterday I had such a conversation. It was quite painful to hear the generalization and the reasons why one should not adopt. I find it irritating hearing the words "Be patient, you will be granted your own child", when the adoption idea was never about having ones own child, but rather to take care of one who has no parents.

After the child has completed his/her education, is he/she still treated as an adopted child?

Sister Sudoku, may Allah (SWT) make it easy for you and your husband to adopt, and may He make the child/ren pious and beneficial to our ummah, and may He reward you greatly for such beautiful efforts.

And may Allah (SWT) make it easy for those of us who do want to adopt and care for children, strengthen our ummah for His pleasure.

[boanuatiguali]

You know I have been sponsoring a little girl in Pakistan for almost a year now. I was like you, saw a very similar photograph and it broke my heart. I decided to do something about it. I wanted to make a difference in her life. I hear from my little sponsor child through an aid worker a couple of times a year. She draws me a picture and her aid worker writes to let me know how she is getting on. To know that I can help her in anyway I can whilst living on the other side of the world makes my heart feel happy. I think about her almost every day like she was my own daughter and if anything ever happened to her family I would welcome her with open arms to my own family. You can make a difference, I've seen it and I am so humbled by this little girl. Whenever I feel miserable or down I look at her photograph and say how blessed I am to have her sent into my life. She is my inspiration to make me want to be a better person.

mashaAllah sister, may Allah SWT reward you immensely for the above, amen, when my niece/nephew grow up a little somewhere around 8 years or so, I'm gonna show them that pic and tell how unbelievably lucky they are for Allah SWT has granted them so much, great parents and great quality of life...Allahumma barik fihee, I have even thought of getting my sis to sponsor a child I'll see how it pans out...

Great thread, brother Pluto. I cannot express my happiness.

May Allah accept your endeavour. I request du'aa as well, for this wish has been one of mine and my husband's for more than a few years.

This quote is extremely poignant. Food, money, shelter. It will not give a child the love that he/she wants.

ameen,
dua's for me too sis, I too need a companion who'd understand and be willing...

[boanuatiguali]

Yes, and it is a very important and necessary task for the ummah to undertake however, not everyone is suited for adoption or the personal care of an orphan in their homes in which case it is important to keep in mind that just because a person doesn't or can't adopt doesn't mean there is nothing more for them to do. There are other options.

The link on Adoption in Islam lists everything nicely and in connection with ^ lets remember and not take this responsibility lightly:



I have had the unfortunate experience of seeing first hand how 'adopted' children can be mistreated starting at a very young age, used as servants/maids, kept home from school, kept in tattered clothes, not permitted to play and laugh with other children, no cuddles or positive expressions of love and care, beatings... it really is crucial that people understand the responsibility fully.

We all need to do something, in one way or another. like how your parents have been helping... sister Clearwater has been sponsoring a child... others have been volunteering to assist families and tutor them in their lessons... others volunteer in hospitals where sick orphans are cared for... others deliver food to those in need... some open their homes to families in distress so that the children do not have to be separated from their parents.... whatever a person is able, comfortable and committed to doing.

Whatever our abilities, there is always something we can do.

You again raised a very pertinent point that adopted kids could be mistreated, but due to the barakah of tabligh, my parents have raised me in a deeni environment, I really believe I can be a great father in my part of the world, such stories of kids being mistreated is an almost daily news story if I had already married and had kids, perhaps just perhaps I may not have been as keen as I'm now, 'coz now I can plan ahead, yet I think if you put your trust in Allah SWT, He will show you the way...

[boanuatiguali]

for helping me to bring tears on my eyes.

bhai, good that happened, as far as I know, you too are unmarried, and you too can make niyyah, what say? don't trust the finances, salary, put your trust on Allah SWT's treasure, you know it, 1st point of the 6 points...

Assalamu alaykum

What we do here is; adopt a orphan and admit he/she in a well organised madrasah (they offer hygenic food, washing machine facility etc). Bear all the expenses till his/her stay in madrasah. The child will get deeni education. Normally people adopt 1 to 5 children.

and this is what we do too, may Allah SWT grant and save my ikhlaas, amen. Now we are putting pressure on the madrasah zimmedars to teach them english...even putting the fikr in the students too. I eat their brain sometimes on this.

^ Is that so? Most people I know from the subcontinent are very averse to adoption, and very verbose about it. Just yesterday I had such a conversation. It was quite painful to hear the generalization and the reasons why one should not adopt. I find it irritating hearing the words "Be patient, you will be granted your own child", when the adoption idea was never about having ones own child, but rather to take care of one who has no parents.

After the child has completed his/her education, is he/she still treated as an adopted child?

true, they'll think couples must have problems or something to be adopting, but those really are small challenges, if we start looking at what the society will say, then Allah SWT forbid, nothing will get done...

As in tabligh they say, lets ask ourselves: (something on these lines)

"What does Allah SWT want from me now?"

[Glanteeignile]

I have even thought of getting my sis to sponsor a child I'll see how it pans out... [/COLOR]



ameen,
dua's for me too sis, I too need a companion who'd understand and be willing...

Should I send you a detailed mail, bro?
We arrange for dry ration for a widow and her family for one year for Rs. 15000/-.
In our Education Aid program, Rs. 4000/- will pay for a kid's yearly college/school fees. We'll cover the peripherals if any. There are many other options. Haven't spoken to you in a while.

[boanuatiguali]

"Be not sad, surely Allah is with us."
"Verily, with hardship comes ease".

bhai,If you visit my city, I'll get you to meet 3 top zimmedaars of my city (all doctors) who are doing some amazing amazing khidmah of the awaam including non-Muslims

[itaspCatCriny]

You again raised a very pertinent point that adopted kids could be mistreated, but due to the barakah of tabligh, my parents have raised me in a deeni environment, I really believe I can be a great father in my part of the world, such stories of kids being mistreated is an almost daily news story if I had already married and had kids, perhaps just perhaps I may not have been as keen as I'm now, 'coz now I can plan ahead, yet I think if you put your trust in Allah SWT, He will show you the way...

Good point brother and may Allah (SWT) make it possible for you.

Please, do not take my comments as being directed at you. Just by creating this thread, you've worn your heart on your sleeve (as the saying goes) and insha'Allah you will be a caregiver that Allah (SWT) is pleased with. My comments were general so that we don't pressure people to adopt who may not be in a condition to do so but everyone can contribute in one form or another insha'Allah - regardless of economic condition or temperament etc. I mean, if we could all accept from Allah (SWT) the responsibility for the needs (including love) of at least one child, it would be beautiful and insha'Allah, increasingly possible for our ummah.

May we all strive more and more to earn the pleasure of Allah (SWT). Ameen.

[boanuatiguali]

Should I send you a detailed mail, bro?
We arrange for dry ration for a widow and her family for one year for Rs. 15000/-.
In our Education Aid program, Rs. 4000/- will pay for a kid's yearly college/school fees. We'll cover the peripherals if any. There are many other options. Haven't spoken to you in a while.

bhai, we are already doing something on those lines, but you send me the mail, will be looking forward to it. but you know, we have people here too.

[boanuatiguali]

Good point brother and may Allah (SWT) make it possible for you.

Please, do not take my comments as being directed at you. Just by creating this thread, you've worn your heart on your sleeve (as the saying goes) and insha'Allah you will be a caregiver that Allah (SWT) is pleased with. My comments were general so that we don't pressure people to adopt who may not be in a condition to do so but everyone can contribute in one form or another insha'Allah - regardless of economic condition or temperament etc. I mean, if we could all accept from Allah (SWT) the responsibility for the needs (including love) of at least one child, it would be beautiful and insha'Allah, increasingly possible for our ummah.

May we all strive more and more to earn the pleasure of Allah (SWT). Ameen.

actually i didn't think your post was directed at me, thats why i said you raised an important point, i'll explain why i'm insisting (a little bit) on adoption rather than sponsoring

[casinobonbone]

In our Education Aid program, Rs. 4000/- will pay for a kid's yearly college/school fees.

aoa,
a side question. i hope you wont mind. should we invest in those programs that sponsor only secular education?shouldn't we look for programs where both are given?and in the absence of such dual programs should we prefer to donate to madrassahs or the said secular education programs?
i do not wish to sponsor a child's education which will make him open to non-muslim propaganda and may take him away from deen.
he may earn through either education. the best would be a program incorporating both. but in absence of such dual programs should we make a choice?

my question is for dr. sahab only. i do not wish to start an argument, on this beautiful thread atleast : )

[itaspCatCriny]

Mind if we list some information here? Here's a sampling of what I came across today:

In relation to adopting children from Afghanistan:

• There is no adoption of Afghani children, only guardianship, and this poses a problem to those from other countries in moving the child - immigration issues.
• Afghanistan is not part of the Hague Convention for adoption and this really seems to complicate matters
• That said, there seems to be a way to work around this and Insha'Allah still stay within Shariah laws. Here is something that details the process for US citizens.
• This article dated 2008? mentions a new adoption law in the making to help the over 2 million orphaned children but I don't know if such a law has come to fruition.
• Another article on the challenges of adopting children from Afghanistan

From info from some of the many other SF threads on adoption:

• Foster Care Link out of the UK linked to in another thread.
• Sponsoring an orphan listed as 1 of 10 things every Muslim in the West (and anywhere really) should do on this thread.

Here is a sampling of information about adoption from some Muslim countries. You can plug in any country here and get some information on the country you're interested in:

• Pakistan
• Turkey (and this)
• Egypt
• Iraq
• Niger
• Somalia

I read somewhere that there are some 163 million orphaned children currently around the world.

Where I live, Canada, there are over 30,000 children waiting to be adopted. Question for everyone: how about your area?

[boanuatiguali]

Mind if we list some information here? Here's a sampling of what I came across today:

In relation to adopting children from Afghanistan:

• There is no adoption of Afghani children, only guardianship, and this poses a problem to those from other countries in moving the child - immigration issues.
• Afghanistan is not part of the Hague Convention for adoption and this really seems to complicate matters
• That said, there seems to be a way to work around this and Insha'Allah still stay within Shariah laws. Here is something that details the process for US citizens.
• This article dated 2008? mentions a new adoption law in the making to help the over 2 million orphaned children but I don't know if such a law has come to fruition.
• Another article on the challenges of adopting children from Afghanistan

From info from some of the many other SF threads on adoption:

• Foster Care Link out of the UK linked to in another thread.
• Sponsoring an orphan listed as 1 of 10 things every Muslim in the West (and anywhere really) should do on this thread.

Here is a sampling of information about adoption from some Muslim countries. You can plug in any country here and get some information on the country you're interested in:

• Pakistan
• Turkey (and this)
• Egypt
• Iraq
• Niger
• Somalia

I read somewhere that there are some 163 million orphaned children currently around the world.

Where I live, Canada, there are over 30,000 children waiting to be adopted. Question for everyone: how about your area?

for research sis. i checked out adoption.state.gov & that is a really really useful website.

i found one more:
mahbobaspromise http://www.mahbobaspromise.org/ for the australian Muslims.

my area? think of a number and multiply it to the power of 10, thats India for you.

200 million, yes, 2 0 0 million go hungry daily in India, Here Much of that is not because India doesn't have food, but 'coz of mismanagement of the resources...

@aapa sudoku, just a humble suggestion, of you are going for the adoption sooner or later, go for the girl child.
there are many avenues for the male kids, but not as many for the females.

[QQQQQ-Trek]

@aapa sudoku, just a humble suggestion, of you are going for the adoption sooner or later, go for the girl child.

In fact this is something I very much want, especially after I read and see news of female infanticide from India and Pakistan. How someone can think of murder when looking at the sweet beautiful face of an innocent baby girl is beyond me.

I am not sure how easy it is to adopt from India. I do know Pakistan has the Edhi Foundation. It takes approximately a year or so from there.