[Seisyvose]

Salam Alaykum my Brother

I do raising hands in salah according to the hadith you have mentioned, and i also know that omitting is also permittable

My question is i have seen people adding raising hands when they are going to apostrate, (after sitting "rabighfili..."), is that permitted by a mahdab, if it is what mahdab?

wassalam

ASA,

Brother I see this is your first post, welcome. I don't quite understand what you are saying...are you saying you have observed muslims raising the hands when in the sitting position (before standing up?) Or are you saying once erect they raise the hands (with takbeer) before reciting Al Faatiha?

[esanamaserrn]

I was born in Malaysia surrounded by mostly Malays who follow the Shafie method of praying. The problem Is both my parents r of Pakistani heritage. My mother(Allah bless her) of Pakistani heritage was also born I'm Malaysia. I have been taught prayers a little bit from everyone but not particularly frm my parents because we got separated when I was still little. I have been checking the videos on u tube and also from other sites and I am amazed at the difference of opinion. Now I am even more confused.

I only raise my hands for Takbir at the start before Sanaa (Subhanakallahumma......) I say Takbir during Ruku and prostration(Sujud) and in between my Sujud and standing up again for the second rakaat but I do not raise my hands anywhere except before my Sanaa. I only raise my hands again for Takbir in the third rakaat before Basmallah. Oh and I do fold my hands after Takbir


Can someone please tell me if I am doing it wrong. I have seen video instructions where by no Sanaa is been read. They go straight on to Al Fatihah. I don' t want to be punished for doing Bidaah

From your posting, it shows clearly that you've learnt your solat from different people. For example, if in Malaysia, after Takbirah al-Ihram (first takbeer), we would recite do'a iftitah, but you wrote you recite do'a istiftah. (Note: I am NOT saying that it is wrong. All I am saying is that it is different that what MALAYS in Malaysia were taught and practice). Maybe thats from your Pakistani influence.

Back to your question on raising hand in Salah, in Shafie raising of hands at the moments listed below (as per the hadith quoted by bro rqsnnt) is Sunnah Hai'at
1- Raising hands at takbirah al-ihram / takbirah al-ula ie before fatihah in 1st rakat
2- raising hands before going down to ruku'
3- raising hands when coming up after ruku' (ie at i'tidal)
4- raising hands when standing up from tahiyyat awwal (ie 3rd rak'at)

note: Sunnah Haiat is different than Sunnah Ab'aadh (which if ones do not perform it, need to do the "sujud sahwi")

Best would be if you can learn from a qualified alim of shafie in your area.

wallaahu a'lam.

[esanamaserrn]

Salam Alaykum my Brother

I do raising hands in salah according to the hadith you have mentioned, and i also know that omitting is also permittable

My question is i have seen people adding raising hands when they are going to apostrate, (after sitting "rabighfili..."), is that permitted by a mahdab, if it is what mahdab?

wassalam

In shafie school of thought, if one raises his hands in solat not at the places where it is desireable/permissable, then it is considered extra movements. And consciously making 3 "big" consecutive movements (one after another without interruption) would deem ones salah void.

wallaahu a'lam.

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ASA,

Brother I see this is your first post, welcome. I don't quite understand what you are saying...are you saying you have observed muslims raising the hands when in the sitting position (before standing up?) Or are you saying once erect they raise the hands (with takbeer) before reciting Al Faatiha?

Thank for welcoming, it's raising hands in the sitting position before the second sujud(apostrate)

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Thank you brother for your answer, i realized now i know nothing about islam but only a little

[Seisyvose]

Thank for welcoming, it's raising hands in the sitting position before the second sujud(apostrate)[/QUOTE]

ASA,

I am not aware of any madhaab (or sect (Salafiyyun, Birelvee etc.) within Ahle Sunnah wal Jamaa) that raises the hands in the sitting position.

[JohnfAclambrJA]

I saw Shi'a doing it (there's a bunch of Iranians studying here), raising hands before going into second sujud.

Some (but it seems not everyone) also do it several times in tahiyyat akhir, before salam.

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I saw Shi'a doing it (there's a bunch of Iranians studying here), raising hands before going into second sujud.

Some (but it seems not everyone) also do it several times in tahiyyat akhir, before salam.

Thank you my brother

[Seisyvose]

Strange bunch they are...

[auctionlover]

Assalamu alaikum warahmatullahi t3ala wabarakatuhu

Here are all the rules concerning "raising hands in prayer" according to Imam Shafiee rahimahullah t3alas school of thought:

- According to imam Shaf'iee you are to raise your hands to your shoulders
- You are to raise your hands for the takbeeratul ihraam (this is the takbeer from which your start your prayer), and at the
takbeer before rukoo, and the takbeer after rukoo (altogether 3 times)

This is the hadeeth that the shaf'iees follow: "Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wa sallam used to raise his hands if he stood for salah
until his shoulders, then say ALLAH akbar, and when he wanted to do rukoo, he raised his hands, said ALLAH abkar, then went in
rukoo, and when he lifted his head from rukoo, he raised his hands like before and said: sam'iallahu liman hamida rabbana wa lakal hamd"
(meaning)

- How to raise your hands: You are to raise your hands at the same time you begin to say ALLAH akbar, and put down
your hands when you finish saying ALLAHU akbar, (neither of the two shall be done before the other, both will be done together
at the same time, start together, finish them together.)

Hope this was helpful, (Learned this in Sunan e Abi Dawood class)
jazakumullah t3ala ahsanal jaza

[hopertveyk]

Salams,
I was taught a different way that I forgot what was called. I was taught to raise my hands after everything. For example going into sajdah, going into jalsah, going back down etc... I am not sure if this is right.
I was also taught that after dua to go into sajdah once more. According to youtube, this is the shia way of praying, but i am not a shia!
I believe that raising my hands is a sign of respect of Allah (swt)

If you have a Masjid nearby, go there and ask someone to direct you to the Imam and ask him to teach you.

[velichay]

If you have a Masjid nearby, go there and ask someone to direct you to the Imam and ask him to teach you.

Jazakallah