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Old 01-14-2012, 03:27 PM   #1
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I was born in Malaysia surrounded by mostly Malays who follow the Shafie method of praying. The problem Is both my parents r of Pakistani heritage. My mother(Allah bless her) of Pakistani heritage was also born I'm Malaysia. I have been taught prayers a little bit from everyone but not particularly frm my parents because we got separated when I was still little. I have been checking the videos on u tube and also from other sites and I am amazed at the difference of opinion. Now I am even more confused.

I only raise my hands for Takbir at the start before Sanaa (Subhanakallahumma......) I say Takbir during Ruku and prostration(Sujud) and in between my Sujud and standing up again for the second rakaat but I do not raise my hands anywhere except before my Sanaa. I only raise my hands again for Takbir in the third rakaat before Basmallah. Oh and I do fold my hands after Takbir


Can someone please tell me if I am doing it wrong. I have seen video instructions where by no Sanaa is been read. They go straight on to Al Fatihah. I don' t want to be punished for doing Bidaah
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Old 01-14-2012, 04:06 PM   #2
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Assalamu alaykum

You are a shafaee. So according to shafaee madhab, you should raise your hands while going to rukoo and after the rukoo.

Don't try to learn from youtube or other sites.

The madrasah or masjid near your residence is best reliable source for getting islamic knowledge. So you must personally meet a scholar near your residence and present your case.
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Old 01-14-2012, 04:38 PM   #3
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Assalamu alaykum

You are a shafaee. So according to shafaee madhab, you should raise your hands while going to rukoo and after the rukoo.

Don't try to learn from youtube or other sites.

The madrasah or masjid near your residence is best reliable source for getting islamic knowledge. So you must personally meet a scholar near your residence and present your case.
Wa'alaykom Salam brother.

Thank you brother. Tha thing is I now live in Australia and when I go to the mosque, the person on my right prays differently and the guy on my left prays differently and sometimes I get so distracted that I rather pray at home or pray alone. I always get depressed now after my prayers, worrying if I prayed right. Thank you for kind reply brother. I love you.
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Old 01-14-2012, 04:45 PM   #4
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Wa'alaykom Salam brother.

Thank you brother. Tha thing is I now live in Australia and when I go to the mosque, the person on my right prays differently and the guy on my left prays differently and sometimes I get so distracted that I rather pray at home or pray alone. I always get depressed now after my prayers, worrying if I prayed right. Thank you for kind reply brother. I love you.
We are praying for decades in similar conditions. But we never got distracted, what is special about you. And we never started praying separately or at home.
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Old 01-14-2012, 05:10 PM   #5
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We are praying for decades in similar conditions. But we never got distracted, what is special about you. And we never started praying separately or at home.
I am nothing special bother maybe that's why. Maybe I am not confident enough in my prayers.
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Old 01-14-2012, 05:37 PM   #6
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I was born in Malaysia surrounded by mostly Malays who follow the Shafie method of praying. The problem Is both my parents r of Pakistani heritage. My mother(Allah bless her) of Pakistani heritage was also born I'm Malaysia. I have been taught prayers a little bit from everyone but not particularly frm my parents because we got separated when I was still little. I have been checking the videos on u tube and also from other sites and I am amazed at the difference of opinion. Now I am even more confused.

I only raise my hands for Takbir at the start before Sanaa (Subhanakallahumma......) I say Takbir during Ruku and prostration(Sujud) and in between my Sujud and standing up again for the second rakaat but I do not raise my hands anywhere except before my Sanaa. I only raise my hands again for Takbir in the third rakaat before Basmallah. Oh and I do fold my hands after Takbir


Can someone please tell me if I am doing it wrong. I have seen video instructions where by no Sanaa is been read. They go straight on to Al Fatihah. I don' t want to be punished for doing Bidaah



Raising hands in Salah before and after Ruku is Sunnah. In 4 Rakats salat, we can perform this sunnah 9 times more. Following hadith is showing how to perform this sunnah in Salat. U can consult with an Alim with this Hadith.


Bukhari :: Book 12 :: Volume 1 :: Hadith 706
Narrated Nafi':

Whenever Ibn 'Umar started the prayer with Takbir, he used to raise his hands: whenever he bowed, he used to raise his hands (before bowing) and also used to raise his hands on saying, "Sami a-l-lahu Liman hamida", and he used to do the same on rising from the second Rak'a (for the 3rd Rak'a). Ibn 'Umar said: "The Prophet used to do the same."


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Old 01-14-2012, 05:44 PM   #7
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I am nothing special bother maybe that's why. Maybe I am not confident enough in my prayers.
Assalamu alaykum

Take it as waswasa from shaytaan. Shaytaan will never allow to do good deeds, if one intents he will say "you are aamaal are not worth it, your niyyah is not correct, why are others doing the different way?" etc. His intentions are clear, one should not be doing aamaal-e-saalihah. So defeat shayataan at this instance. Do you what ever you can and leave to Allah swt to accept them.
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Old 01-14-2012, 05:46 PM   #8
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Just to clarify Bro Mohamad1, Raising the hands and not raising them are both Sunnah, but since you have learnt the Madh-hab of Imam al-Shafi'i then you should raise the hands.
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Old 01-14-2012, 05:49 PM   #9
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Assalamu alaykum

Take it as waswasa from shaytaan. Shaytaan will never allow to do good deeds, if one intents he will say "you are aamaal are not worth it, your niyyah is not correct, why are others doing the different way?" etc. His intentions are clear, one should not be doing aamaal-e-saalihah. So defeat shayataan at this instance. Do you what ever you can and leave to Allah swt to accept them.
Ameen brother and thank you again for your kind advice. I shall keep it to heart. May Allah shower you with his blessings.
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Old 01-14-2012, 05:52 PM   #10
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Thank you brother for your kind opinion. Allah bless you.
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Old 01-14-2012, 06:05 PM   #11
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Asalamualaikom. Thank you for the Hadith. I have read the Hadith of Sahih Al Bukhari and that's what made me question. I hope one day all of us shall pray the same way. Inshallah.
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Old 01-14-2012, 06:13 PM   #12
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Wa'alaykom Salam brother Zayn,
Thank you very much for the clearance. That does make me feel a bit lighter knowing that my prayers were still valid. From now on I shall raise my hands during Ruku. May Allah give you good tidings brother. My brotherly love to you.
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Old 01-14-2012, 06:22 PM   #13
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Brother Mohamad where are you living in Australia?
I'm in Melbourne as you can tell by my username
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Old 01-14-2012, 06:25 PM   #14
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Asalamualaikom. Thank you for the Hadith. I have read the Hadith of Sahih Al Bukhari and that's what made me question. I hope one day all of us shall pray the same way. Inshallah.
brother.

A humble advice bro, do not read hadith from Bukhari without guidance from a scholar or proper commentary, because we will misunderstand the hadiths very easily. Rather read Riyad As saliheen, where most of the hadith mentioned are easy to understand.

Brother our beloved Rasoolullah has prayed in many different ways, all those ways are permissible. The Sahaba followed this and there is substantial evidence that they prayed according to the Prophet but in different ways that He had showed them. Many of the difference in Salah we see are allowed by Allah which was taught by our Rasoolullah to us. So don't worry.
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Old 01-14-2012, 06:31 PM   #15
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Br. Muhammad
Please go through this as it will inshallah give you some pointer.
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...one-help/page2


Just because something in hadith in no way means it is the only way. The sahba differed and so do we!! Some of The evidance for hanafi school for salat is listed here.
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...Ijtihaad/page7
Only a foolish will try to derive shariah and fiqh by reading books of hadith unless one has all the tools and knowhow. Often people can fall into missguidance by acting upon ahadith. In a same way someone interpreting quran and commenting on it is classed as sinful without training and knowledge in the subject. Unfortunately in todays world people suffering from delusion of grandeur have opted for Jahalat and too quickly make remarks on the field they have no permission or full knowledge of.
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Old 01-14-2012, 07:12 PM   #16
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brother.

A humble advice bro, do not read hadith from Bukhari without guidance from a scholar or proper commentary, because we will misunderstand the hadiths very easily. Rather read Riyad As saliheen, where most of the hadith mentioned are easy to understand.

Brother our beloved Rasoolullah has prayed in many different ways, all those ways are permissible. The Sahaba followed this and there is substantial evidence that they prayed according to the Prophet but in different ways that He had showed them. Many of the difference in Salah we see are allowed by Allah which was taught by our Rasoolullah to us. So don't worry.

Brother amr123, How r u? Hope well by the grace of Allah.

Yes u r right, i also told brother to take advice with an Alim regarding mentioned hadith. BTW, I hope following is the implementation of mentioned hadith with guidance from a scholar or proper commentary.

Taken from Elements of Shafi'i Fiqh.

1. To raise both hands up to the shoulders
-when saying Allahu Akbar at the beginning of Salaah,
-while going to Ruku’,
-coming up from Ruku’ and
-standing up from the first sitting of Tashahhud.

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Old 01-14-2012, 07:14 PM   #17
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Brother amr123, How r u? Hope well by the grace of Allah.

Yes u r right, i also told brother to take advice with an Alim regarding mentioned hadith. BTW, I hope following is the implementation of mentioned hadith with guidance from a scholar or proper commentary.
bro.
I m doing ok, Alhamdulillah. Remember me in your Duas Akhi.
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Old 01-14-2012, 07:40 PM   #18
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Brother Mohamad where are you living in Australia?
I'm in Melbourne as you can tell by my username
Asalamualaykom brother, I live in Adelaide.
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:45 PM   #19
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Salam Alaykum my Brother

I do raising hands in salah according to the hadith you have mentioned, and i also know that omitting is also permittable

My question is i have seen people adding raising hands when they are going to apostrate, (after sitting "rabighfili..."), is that permitted by a mahdab, if it is what mahdab?

wassalam
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:20 PM   #20
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Shia's do that, as far as i know
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