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Old 04-08-2012, 03:06 PM   #1
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The Express Tribune

Taliban preaching: From pulpit to pamphlet
By Riaz Ahmad
Published: April 8, 2012

PESHAWAR:

A steady and prolonged crackdown on militants has translated into fewer funds to spread their propaganda.

Consequently, the preferred medium of mass communication is now pamphlets — cheap to produce and easy to distribute.

An elderly resident of Matani, a suburb in Peshawar, narrates the power of these messages. “When the number of music stores increased in the village, the Taliban started sending out pamphlets with 500 rupees attached to them.” The message: ‘Shut down your business or purchase a funeral shroud.’

“Within a week, all music shops disappeared,” said the elderly resident.

Sometimes, the influence also works in favour of the people. When the prices of meat and sugar escalated unchecked, it was time for the militants to step in. “One morning, we found pamphlets dictating the prices of these commodities pasted on the walls. No one dared to disobey.”

These pamphlets are not just used to issue orders. Literatures pasted in crowded markets of tribal areas convey the Taliban’s point of view and ideology on various matters.

“Earlier, they had a terrestrial FM radio station in Darra Adam Khel to serve their purpose. Also, addressing large gatherings is not a viable option for the militants anymore,” the elder said. “So this is the new way for them to advertise their viewpoint.”

After the Marriot Hotel blast in Islamabad, for which the Pakistani Taliban were blamed, a circular was issued in Bajaur and Mohmand agencies by the militants disowning the attack. It also blamed the US intelligence agencies for it, saying the move’s purpose was to exert pressure on Pakistan’s government.

The pamphlets deter people from overt opposition even if they do not succeed in winning the support of the locals.

In 2008, the Taliban used such pamphlets to diplomatically navigate their way out of a potentially threatening situation. That year, residents of the Adezai village raised an anti-Taliban militia led by the battle-hardened Dilawar Khan. They took oaths in mosques and were soon joined by another local Nazim Haji Abdul Malik, who took over as the militia’s head. The Taliban militants found themselves facing an equally brutal opposition which managed to respond to their bloody gun battles.

The Taliban then released pamphlets warning residents of all nearby villages against showing support for the Adezai militia. It said that other than the Adezai village all others were ‘friends’ of the former. Once the village was effectively isolated, no amount of coercion could convince the neighbouring tribal areas to support the Adezai army.

Published in The Express Tribune, April 8th, 2012.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/361419/t...t-to-pamphlet/
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Old 04-08-2012, 07:53 PM   #2
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The Express Tribune

Taliban preaching: From pulpit to pamphlet
By Riaz Ahmad
Published: April 8, 2012

PESHAWAR:

A steady and prolonged crackdown on militants has translated into fewer funds to spread their propaganda.

Consequently, the preferred medium of mass communication is now pamphlets — cheap to produce and easy to distribute.

An elderly resident of Matani, a suburb in Peshawar, narrates the power of these messages. “When the number of music stores increased in the village, the Taliban started sending out pamphlets with 500 rupees attached to them.” The message: ‘Shut down your business or purchase a funeral shroud.’

“Within a week, all music shops disappeared,” said the elderly resident.

Sometimes, the influence also works in favour of the people. When the prices of meat and sugar escalated unchecked, it was time for the militants to step in. “One morning, we found pamphlets dictating the prices of these commodities pasted on the walls. No one dared to disobey.”

These pamphlets are not just used to issue orders. Literatures pasted in crowded markets of tribal areas convey the Taliban’s point of view and ideology on various matters.

“Earlier, they had a terrestrial FM radio station in Darra Adam Khel to serve their purpose. Also, addressing large gatherings is not a viable option for the militants anymore,” the elder said. “So this is the new way for them to advertise their viewpoint.”

After the Marriot Hotel blast in Islamabad, for which the Pakistani Taliban were blamed, a circular was issued in Bajaur and Mohmand agencies by the militants disowning the attack. It also blamed the US intelligence agencies for it, saying the move’s purpose was to exert pressure on Pakistan’s government.

The pamphlets deter people from overt opposition even if they do not succeed in winning the support of the locals.

In 2008, the Taliban used such pamphlets to diplomatically navigate their way out of a potentially threatening situation. That year, residents of the Adezai village raised an anti-Taliban militia led by the battle-hardened Dilawar Khan. They took oaths in mosques and were soon joined by another local Nazim Haji Abdul Malik, who took over as the militia’s head. The Taliban militants found themselves facing an equally brutal opposition which managed to respond to their bloody gun battles.

The Taliban then released pamphlets warning residents of all nearby villages against showing support for the Adezai militia. It said that other than the Adezai village all others were ‘friends’ of the former. Once the village was effectively isolated, no amount of coercion could convince the neighbouring tribal areas to support the Adezai army.

Published in The Express Tribune, April 8th, 2012.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/361419/t...t-to-pamphlet/
i see they are not completely bad. (dont get me wrong. i support afghan taliban. but not TTP)
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:43 PM   #3
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i see they are not completely bad. (dont get me wrong. i support afghan taliban. but not TTP)
Bro can I get your e-mail ID? would love to discuss some things with you...

Jazakallah
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Old 04-08-2012, 10:33 PM   #4
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TTP has brought nothing but bloodshed and chaos to the society.They have bombed mosques,janza parayers,jirga (the traditional problem solving mechanism in pushtoon areas).They have destroyed the existing social structure without replacing it with a new one.All they know and can do is to ask for submission by use of brute force,beheadings,hanging dead bodies,desecrating the dead.They hardly know the teachings of Islam.They are mercenaries working for money,let the money flowing in to them from anti Pakistan elements stop, and you will hardly find a Talib.
Pls note I am talking of TTP,not AFGHAN TALIBAN,whome I consider true mujahideen.
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Old 04-08-2012, 11:00 PM   #5
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They were ready to kill shop owners on the basis they sold music?

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Old 04-08-2012, 11:08 PM   #6
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Bro can I get your e-mail ID? would love to discuss some things with you...

Jazakallah
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reachingout2theleft@gmail.com

this isnt my personal email so mods please dont asterisk it
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Old 04-09-2012, 02:03 AM   #7
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TTP has brought nothing but bloodshed and chaos to the society.They have bombed mosques,janza parayers,jirga (the traditional problem solving mechanism in pushtoon areas).They have destroyed the existing social structure without replacing it with a new one.All they know and can do is to ask for submission by use of brute force,beheadings,hanging dead bodies,desecrating the dead.They hardly know the teachings of Islam.They are mercenaries working for money,let the money flowing in to them from anti Pakistan elements stop, and you will hardly find a Talib.
Pls note I am talking of TTP,not AFGHAN TALIBAN,whome I consider true mujahideen.
The biggest myth which has been coined by the Pakistani media and its establishment is that Afghan Taliban are good and the Pakistani ones are bad. As if mysteriously the same blood which is at the other side of Durand line becomes bad when it comes to this side. In the eyes of the establishment and the people inflicted with nationalism the afghan Taliban are only good because they are away and the Pakistani Taliban are bad because they are are in Pakistan. Ofcourse , these people like Islam to be implemented in Afghanistan but they are not ready to buy their daughters a shawl to wear at home. Such hypocrites are involved in malign propaganda against the Pakistani Taliban and i think the Muslims should not fall to this.
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:24 AM   #8
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The biggest myth which has been coined by the Pakistani media and its establishment is that Afghan Taliban are good and the Pakistani ones are bad. As if mysteriously the same blood which is at the other side of Durand line becomes bad when it comes to this side. In the eyes of the establishment and the people inflicted with nationalism the afghan Taliban are only good because they are away and the Pakistani Taliban are bad because they are are in Pakistan. Ofcourse , these people like Islam to be implemented in Afghanistan but they are not ready to buy their daughters a shawl to wear at home. Such hypocrites are involved in malign propaganda against the Pakistani Taliban and i think the Muslims should not fall to this.
Jazakallah khair for defending our Pak mujahideen! Finally someone has stood up...

Bro, can you kindly shed light on how this "Good Taliban v Bad Taliban" dichotomy arose?

I seriously don't get it. The "Good Taliban" (i.e. Afghan Mujahideen) have been blamed of throwing acid on women, oppressing women, blowing up girls' schools etc. (don't get me wrong. I mean this is all Western propaganda of course) yet Muslims do not buy this bulls***.

When it comes to the other side of the Durand line (in your own words) suddenly a drastic mental retardation occurs, it seems? Suddenly all the blatant lies spread by the puppet media becomes accepatable to even the Muslims?

I have been trying to resolve this paradox for ages, but have failed big time. Perhaps you could shed some light.

Jazakallah
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Old 04-09-2012, 09:19 AM   #9
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If you believe what you are saying Dr. Ati, then you must be suggesting that all the funeral, mosque, bazar, school, and biddat shrine bombings have been done by other than the TTP because mujahideen would of course not target civilians so blatantly.

if not the TTP, then who? surely you must have an idea whose behind all of that?
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:15 AM   #10
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As far as blowing up of school, I read an interview by the taliban sometimes back and in reply to this they said that the America set their base in the school when it is not allowed in the first place (ofcourse not in any place) and so the taliban had to blow up their base, which includes school. The western media then propagates that the taliban blows up the school when they aim to blow up the kuffar base. Typical hypocrisy of the west. Let Allah SWT help this muslim ummah and give victory to the those who are fighting in His cause and humiliate our enemies in both the worlds if guidance is not written for them. Ameen
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:34 AM   #11
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If you believe what you are saying Dr. Ati, then you must be suggesting that all the funeral, mosque, bazar, school, and biddat shrine bombings have been done by other than the TTP because mujahideen would of course not target civilians so blatantly.

if not the TTP, then who? surely you must have an idea whose behind all of that?
Sorry for barging in Dr Ati, I think I can reply on your behalf.

Q: surely you must have an idea whose behind all of that?

A: In one word, BLACKWATER
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:37 AM   #12
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If you believe what you are saying Dr. Ati, then you must be suggesting that all the funeral, mosque, bazar, school, and biddat shrine bombings have been done by other than the TTP because mujahideen would of course not target civilians so blatantly.

if not the TTP, then who? surely you must have an idea whose behind all of that?
Of course we don't believe the TTP is behind all that, any more than we blame Osama for 911!!!

If you want breaking news, check this out:

Video of Blackwater Contractors Driving Over Iraqi Woman

http://therealnews.com/t2/component/...video_id=73398
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Old 04-09-2012, 12:51 PM   #13
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i see they are not completely bad. (dont get me wrong. i support afghan taliban. but not TTP)
If you would see the Akhlaq of TTP Mujahideen, you would be surprised like me. Don't be biased by the media. The best way to know about them is to meet them.
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Old 04-09-2012, 01:10 PM   #14
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May be we should not believe media what ever it says specialy about Taliban. It is better to stay quite if we dont have proper proofs.

FOr me it s better to have Husn e Zan with mujahideen
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Old 04-09-2012, 01:46 PM   #15
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Was the TTP behind the Mumbai attacks? Mumbai attacks weren't a black flag operation. The video of Ajmal kasab's testimony and the tapped audio of the handlers communicating with the militia is so obvious.
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Was the TTP behind the Mumbai attacks? Mumbai attacks weren't a black flag operation. The video of Ajmal kasab's testimony and the tapped audio of the handlers communicating with the militia is so obvious.


No, the Mumbai attacks have been linked with Lashkar-e-Tayyaba, which is a Salafi/Ahle Hadees group.
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:42 PM   #17
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The biggest myth which has been coined by the Pakistani media and its establishment is that Afghan Taliban are good and the Pakistani ones are bad. As if mysteriously the same blood which is at the other side of Durand line becomes bad when it comes to this side. In the eyes of the establishment and the people inflicted with nationalism the afghan Taliban are only good because they are away and the Pakistani Taliban are bad because they are are in Pakistan. Ofcourse , these people like Islam to be implemented in Afghanistan but they are not ready to buy their daughters a shawl to wear at home. Such hypocrites are involved in malign propaganda against the Pakistani Taliban and i think the Muslims should not fall to this.
there is ample proof that the two are different. the ttp arent completely alien to their afghan counterparts but not the same either. please use the search function. it has already been discussed at length in several threads
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:44 PM   #18
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If you would see the Akhlaq of TTP Mujahideen, you would be surprised like me. Don't be biased by the media. The best way to know about them is to meet them.
ive seen their akhlaq actually and one of their 'scholars' speaking. it was disgusting. yet ive also seen the afghan taliban scholars speaking. gulf in class.
you shd also use the search function. this 'dilemma' has been put to rest before
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:57 AM   #19
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Sorry for barging in Dr Ati, I think I can reply on your behalf.

Q: surely you must have an idea whose behind all of that?

A: In one word, BLACKWATER
Yes sure,don,t believe in western media....but don,t fool yourself either.It is not Blackwater doing all this,;No backwater will ever become a suicide bomber.It is EXACTLY TTP doing it.They are destroying the schools,they are blasting themself in janaza prayers,and it is they who blsast themself in Juma congregations.Just blaming western media would not work Brother.Calling TTP mujahideen is an insult to the Islamic concept of Jihad.
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Yes sure,don,t believe in western media....but don,t fool yourself either.It is not Blackwater doing all this,;No backwater will ever become a suicide bomber.It is EXACTLY TTP doing it.They are destroying the schools,they are blasting themself in janaza prayers,and it is they who blsast themself in Juma congregations.Just blaming western media would not work Brother.Calling TTP mujahideen is an insult to the Islamic concept of Jihad.
Can you present solid proof about your claims? You are just imitating the Kuffar's propaganda regarding the Mujahideen. Suicide attack is used only in the cases where there is no other way to fight against the enemy. Do you know about fake Taliban groups who are nothing but the agents of US? They also recruit young people and motivate them to be a suicide attacker.
By the way, at first learn about the mighty movement of the Taliban and then comment.
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