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![]() I had in discussion with one la madhabi,he presented this,i just need to understand what does this mean? "Taqleed is acting without proof upon the action of someone whose saying is not among evidence(Quran and Sunnah), following Prophet peace be upon him and Consensus is not taqleed [Tahreer Ibn Hammam fe ilm al asool vol 3 page 453] Ibn Hajib al Nahwi (646 h) said فالتقليد العمل بقول غيرك من غير حجة وليس الرجوع الى قوله صلى الله عليه وسلم والى الاجماع والعامى الى المفتى والقاضى الى العدول بتقليد لقيام الحجة Taqleed is following other then (Prophet) without evidence, so Following Prophet peace be upon him and Ijma, laymen asking from Mufti, Qadhi making judgment based on testimony of witness is not Taqleed because there is evidence on that. منتهى الوصول والأمل في علمي الأصول والجدل page 218 Ali bin Muhammad Al Amadi (631 h) said. فالرجوع الى قول النبى عليه السلام والى ما اجمع عليه اهل العصر من المجتهدين ورجوع العامي الى قول المفتي، وكذلك عمل القاضي بقول العدول لا يكون تقليدا، لعدم عروه من الحجة الملزمة Ibn Qudamah Al Hanblee said وهو فى عرف الفقهاء قبول قول الغير من غير حجة اخذا من هذاالمعنى فلا يسمى الاخذ بقول النبى صلى الله عليه وسلم والاجماع تقليدا And this (taqleed) according to jurists is accepting sayings of others (then Prophet) without evidence. From this meaning accepting saying of Prophet peace be upon him and consensus is not taqleed [Rodha tul Nazir vol 2 page 450] http://www.yasoob.com/books/htm1/m019/23/no2316.html |
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![]() From what i have read, there seems to be a difference on the Istilaahi meaning of Taqleed, so depending upon which context a Scholar used it on, he would allow it or even disallow it. Just to give you one example from Dar al-Ift Misriyyah, وأما التقليد في الاصطلاح فله معنيان: أحدهما: العمل بقول الغير من غير حجة من الحجج الشرعية الملزمة، أي: من غير دليل قائم على حكمه أو حجيته. والثاني: العمل بقول المجتهد من غير معرفة دليله معرفة تامة. والأول غير جائز باتفاق، والثاني جائز، Whatever the case, those that disallowed Taqleed due to the first meaning of Taqleed, didn't say that a layman should follow the Daleel, rather they used a term called Ittiba' , meaning to follow the Mufti's Qawl without knowing the proof as al-Imam al-Aamidi mentions in his al-Ihkam: العامي ومن ليس له أهلية الاجتهاد ، وإن كان محصلا لبعض العلوم المعتبرة في الاجتهاد يلزمه اتباع قول المجتهدين والأخذ بفتواه عند المحققين من الأصوليين . ومنع من ذلك بعض معتزلة البغداديين وقالوا : لا يجوز ذلك إلا بعد أن يتبين له صحة اجتهاده بدليله . ونقل عن الجبائي أنه أباح ذلك في مسائل الاجتهاد دون غيرها كالعبادات الخمس . والمختار إنما هو المذهب الأول ، ويدل عليه النص والإجماع والمعقول . This is because Following a Mufti is not Taqleed as mentioned by the Scholar al-Imam Saif al-Din al-Aamidi as you also posted: فالرجوع الى قول النبى عليه السلام والى ما اجمع عليه اهل العصر من المجتهدين ورجوع العامي الى قول المفتي، وكذلك عمل القاضي بقول العدول لا يكون تقليدا (don't be fooled by the Neo People's understand of it, apparently some hidden Maqam between Ijthihad and 'Aam) And again this doesn't mean a layman can understand and comprehend Daleel, because he is not from the people of Ijthihad. So majority of the Scholar have used Taqleed and Ittiba' side by side if they meant following a Mufti without knowing his proof, otherwise if they have spoken against Taqleed this is because of the different Istilaahi meaning they had. In al-Faqih Wa al-Mutafaqqih of al-khateeb al-Baghdadi he clearly illustrates that a layman cannot understand proof and needs to spend many years to know and understand, and does a rebuttal to the Mu'tazilah regarding this. Wallahu A'lam |
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