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Here is the old Nizari Ismaili thrice daily main prayer, the "Dua" or "Doowa", that was in place sometime between the reign of Aga Khan I to around 1950-1955. It comes from the 1908 Haji Bibi Case, in which the Aga Khan was the main defendant. This was a court case about whether the Aga Khan has complete authority and power over the tithes given to him, or whether he had to share them with his family.
This prayer clearly says the Aga Khan is the incarnation of Allah (I have highlighted in blue the relevant passage). This is part of the reason why many older Nizari Ismailis believe that Aga Khan is Allah (they were taught this), and they have even passed on this idea to their children to the extent that it is possible to do so. Many younger Nizari Ismailis struggle to believe that Aga Khan could possibly be Allah, though. The below Dua was replaced in I think 1956, with the current Dua (which the former Nizari Ismaili, Akbarally Meherally, has posted here and here - I promise it is exactly what they recite right now). The current Dua doesn't say that Aga Khan is Allah, although it does have some elements of clear shirk. Some people say that the Aga Khan changed the beliefs around 1950 from the Aga Khan being Allah to the Aga Khan having the Noor of Allah inside of him, and they say the Aga Khan did this because he was afraid many of the next generation of Nizari Ismailis would reject the idea of the Aga Khan possibly being Allah. Also, because he was afraid that Pakistan might ban Nizari Ismailism like Qadianism. So, now Nizari Ismailis say that Aga Khan holds the Noor of Allah inside of him, whereas before they used to say he is the same as Allah. But, many Nizari Ismailis still believe the Aga Khan is Allah even though he only says now that he has the Noor of Allah and is not the same as Allah. Pretty much anything you find on Nizari Ismailis between about 1800 and 1950 says that their Imam is the same to them as Allah. They even used to worship his picture back in those days (1800 to 1950), according to a conversation I had with an older Nizari Ismaili who confirmed that they were worshipping Aga Khan's picture back in East Africa in the jamatkhana she was at. The practice eventually stopped around 1950. It was around 1950, which was around the time Pakistan was formed and where many Nizari Ismailis were living, that the beliefs started to change into more like what they are today (Aga Khan = Noor of Allah; lots of shirk still, but, much less than before). Around 1956 the old Dua changed into the new one (current one). If you think about it, what is the difference between Noor of Allah and Allah. Many Nizari Ismailis say this also. You cannot take Allah and separate him. An entity is either Allah or it isn't. You can't say a human being is the son of God. Nor can you say he has the Noor of God inside of him - without also basically saying that, yeah, he really is Allah. All messed up. Source: High Court of Bombay (Official) - http://indiankanoon.org/doc/1531123/ THE DOOWA. 27. Say your prayers--Say your prayers-Say your prayers. May God bless you! Take the name of God. May the Lord Ali grant you faith and modesty. 0 Shah, accept my evening prayer and supplication by virtue of the privilege Thou possesseth, O our Master Aga Sultan Mahomed Shah. 28. (Then) you are to prostrate. If it is the night prayer, say "My evening and night supplications" and if it is the morning prayer, say "My evening, night and morning supplications." 29. Then repeat the rosary and prostrate. 30. Then repeat the following: I repent for my sins. I repent for my sins. I am a sinful servant (of Thine), sinful from top to toe. O Shah, the Forgiver, forgive me. The Pirs pray (Thy) servant supplicates. Thou, 0 True Shah, accepteth the same. (I obey) the Firman (i.e., mandate) of the Shah as communicated by the Pir. 31. Having said the above keep the rosary on the ground and repeat the following: True declaration--God is Holy. Thanks to God. Praise to God. There is no God but God. God is Great. There is no might or power except that of God, the High the Great, the Merciful, the Magnanimous, the Good, the Great Holy Providence (Who is) in the district of Chaldea, in Persia, in human form descended from the seventy-seven Patras (ancestors), and Who is the forty-eighth. Imam (Spiritual Chief) the tenth Naklanki Avtar, our Master, Aga Sultan Mahomed Shah [a.k.a. Aga Khan III], the Giver. (Then) you are to prostrate. Then say "Hak Shah" (i.e., O Shah, Thou art true) and repeat (the names of) the ancestors of Vishnu and of the successors of the Shah. (Names of) Vishnu's ancestors: * * * * * * The successors of the Shah say (the defendants of) Abu Taleb Vali (are): 1. Our true Lord Shah Ali. 2. Our true Lord Shah Husein. 3. Our true Lord Shah Zenal Abadeen. 4. Our true Lord Shah Mahomed Bakar. 5. Our true Lord Shah Jaffer Sadak. 6. Our true Lord Shah Ismail. 7. Our true Lord Shah Mahomed bin Shah Ismail. 8. Our true Lord Shah Vafi Ahmed. 9. Our true Lord Shall Taki Mahomed. 10. Our true Lord Shah Razi Abdulla. 11. Our true Lord Shah Mehdi Mahomed. 12. Our true Lord Shah Kayem. 13. Our true Lord Shah Mansur. 14. Our true Lord Shah Moezz. 15. Our true Lord Shah Aziz. 16. Oar true Lord Shah Hakem Abu Ali. 17. Our true Lord Shah Lahir Ali. 18. Our true Lord Shah Mustansirbillah. 19. Our true Lord Shah Nizar. 20. Our true Lord Shah Hadi. 21. Our true Lord Shah Mohtadi. 22. Our true Lord Shah Kaher. 23. Our true Lord Shah Ali Zakaria Salam. 24. Our true Lord Shah Ala Mahomed. 25. Our true Lord Shah Khud Jalal-ud-din Hassan. 26. Our true Lord Shah Alaudin Mahomed. 27. Our true Lord Shah Ruknudin Khoor Shah. 28. Our true Lord Shah Shamsudin Mahomed. 29. Our true Lord Shah Kassam. 30. Our, true Lord Shah Islam Shah. 31. Our true Lord Shah Mahomed bin Islam Shah. 32. Our true Lord Shah Mustansirbillah. 33. Our true Lord Shah Abd Salam. 34. Our true Lord Shah Garib Mirza. 35. Our true Lord Shah Budr Ali. 36. Our true Lord Shah Murad Mirza. 37. Our true Lord Shah Zulficar Ali. 38. Our true Lord Shah Nurudin Ali. 39. Our true Lord Shah Sayyad Khalilullah Ali. 40. Our true Lord Shah Nizar. 41. Our true Lord Shah Sayyad Ali. 42. Our true Lord Shah Sa Hassan Ali. 43. Our true Lord Shah Kassam Ali. 44. Our true Lord Shah Abdul Hassan Ali. 45. Our true Lord Shah Khalilullah Ali. 46. Our true Lord Shah Hassan Ali. 47. Our true Lord Shah Aga Ali Shah. 48. Our true Lord Shah Aga Sultan Mahomed Shah the Giver. 32. Recognize him, the present owner of the Imamate, the Master of the Age, the Imam, the guide of the Guides, the(Imam) in Power, Aga Sultan Mahomed Shah, the Giver, the Reliever of innumerable and crores of persons, the present owner of the Imamate. O Shah accept my supplications in Thy presence by virtue of the privilege Thou possesseth, O our Master Aga Sultan Mahomed Shah. * * * * * * * 33. This Doowa is practically the same as the one in Aga Khan I's time and Aga Khan II's time, except the necessary addition of the Aga Khan for the time being. If you're having trouble believing me, here's more proof - multiple threads where many Nizari Ismailis talk about their belief that the Aga Khan really is Allah and that the old Ismaili Doowa had a phrase that ran "Ali Sahi Allah" meaning "Ali is truly Allah": Thread 1 Thread 2 Thread 3 |
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Yes, the world doesn't realize it because they're so secretive about their practices, but, these guys are definitely worse than Qadianis due to the amount of shirk involved in their acts of worship.
It's amazing that Qadianism has been banned in Pakistan, but, Nizari Ismailism still has not been. It may be due to the fact that the Nizari Ismaili cult has a lot of business clout and because the Aga Khan owns the top university and hospital in Pakistan, among other projects. He has purposely tried to ensure that Nizari Ismailism never gets banned. Aga Khan is trying to turn the "Aga Khan" name into a brand like Coca Cola. He's trying to plaster it everywhere he can. For example, he's building an Islamic museum in Toronto, which will be the western world's largest, and calling it the Aga Khan Museum. Through projects like these, he's making himself and the Nizari Ismaili community look like regular Muslims. Many non-Muslims are big fans of the Aga Khan and the Nizari Ismailis due to the fact that the Nizari Ismailis do a lot of charity and don't follow the Shariah. Here is the Nizari Ismaili "constitution" that the Aga Khan requires all community members to abide by (this document as well as official Nizari Ismaili websites make these guys look like ordinary Shias, but, I assure you they're keeping many shirk-filled beliefs and practices secret from you, and that is why no one other than Nizari Ismailis are allowed to go to their jamatkhanas and see the acts of worship they are doing): http://www.ismailiuniverse.com/pdf/constitution.pdf Guard your deen, folks! Many Nizari Ismailis are quite influential and wealthy in many of the countries they live in, as well as highly educated, especially western countries. They know nothing about true Islam but have lots of secular knowledge, in most cases. Beware of them and the secret acts of worship that goes on in their jamatkhanas in the early morning (starting from 3-4 AM, for about one hour) as well as in the evening (starting at 7pm typically and usually last 30-90 minutes), which they will never tell you or anyone else about but that are full of shirk. Any Nizari Ismaili who tries to reveal anything about what goes on in the jamatkhanas or says anything bad publicly about Nizari Ismailism or the Aga Khan can be punished or even expelled from the community via the constitution I posted above, and thereafter treated very badly by anyone who is a Nizari Ismaili. They have replaced salaah with their "Holy Du'a" or "Doowa," (for which, in the opening post of this thread, I share the old one that was in use until about 1955, as well as links to the one that's been in use ever since - and, if you don't believe me, print out the new one and take it to any Nizari Ismaili and they will probably admit to you that what you have really is their main daily prayer). This "Holy Du'a" is recited once in the morning and twice in the evening, including in the jamatkhana. In the jamatkhana, there are also some other practices that go on in addition to the "Holy Du'a," that are also full of shirk but that are difficult to talk about right now. No one is allowed in the jamatkhana other than Nizari Ismailis for this reason. They don't want anybody to know what is specifically recited in their jamatkhanas and all the shirk that is contained therein. Nizari Ismailis pay at least 12.5% of their gross income to the Aga Khan each month (known as "dasond" or "tithes"). He keeps some of the money for himself and uses some of the money in his various charities (including the Aga Khan Development Network or AKDN). Nobody knows the split because it is secret and no one in the community has ever had the balls to ask for transparency in this regard. Given that there are 5-15 million Nizari Ismailis globally, and given that much of the community is quite prosperous, the "dasond" adds up to a figure that is probably in the billions of dollars each year. There is even some info on Wikipedia about this if you search "Aga Khan IV." It is part of the reason the Aga Khan is so wealthy. There are only four aspects of the Islamic shariah that Nizari Ismailis are supposed to abide by (but even these they sometimes don't and nobody really cares...as long as nobody shares the secrets of the community and the secret practices that go on inside the jamatkhanas, and as long as nobody criticizes the community or the Aga Khan or makes either look bad publicly): 1. No alcohol. 2. No drugs. 3. No pork. 4. No gambling. Anything else is allowed (pre-marital sex, abortions, boyfriends and girlfriends, social mixing, partying, clubbing, dressing however one wants, homosexuality, etc.). When I say anything else I really mean anything else. The Aga Khan's commandments (which they call "firmans" and which are read both in the morning and evening on a daily basis in each jamatkhana around the world) are held above the Qur'an. His words are seen as the words of God, as Nizari Ismailis figure that anything he says has the same authority as the words of God. Most Nizari Ismailis don't even have a Qur'an and few have read it to any significant extent in their life. In their view, the Shariah that the Prophet (SAWS) practiced is time-bound and doesn't apply to todays 'modern world.' This is why their women dress like western women and why they don't follow any of the Shariah. Those Nizari Ismailis who do follow bits and pieces of the Shariah (such as fasting in Ramadhan) do so only to conform with what their Muslim neighbors and/or friends are doing, and so that nobody becomes suspicious or starts criticizing the Nizari Ismailis about how un-Islamic they are. I should note that even Aga Khan himself (a normal fallible human being) doesn't believe in the **** he asks his followers to do and to believe in. The Aga Khan himself is more of a secular Muslim, although I'm not sure whether he is Sunni or Twelver Shia. He is apolitical and likes the life of the western world. He prays salaah, fasts in Ramadan, etc. like most normal Muslims, but, doesn't believe in implementing Islam much beyond this. The family members of the Aga Khan are either Sunni or Twelver Shia (many of them are Twelver Shia, apparently, but some may also be Sunni). Neither the Aga Khan nor his family EVER go to jamatkhanas nor do they participate in any of the acts of worship that the Aga Khan orders Nizari Ismailis to perform. . They distance themselves from anything Nizari Ismailis do privately, even though it is the Aga Khan who decides what Nizari Ismailis do privately in the jamatkhanas! If asked sincerely, a Nizari Ismaili you know may confirm this. A big sign of a cult is when the guy that's the leader or being worshiped doesn't actually do any of the things his community does, but, still collects tons of money from the community! One has to concede that Nizari Ismailis are significantly more well off financially and professionally than they average Muslim community. The richer and more wealthy Nizari Ismailis become, the more they pay in tithes and the more wealthy the Aga Khan becomes. This is how it works, so the Aga Khan has a major interest in seeing his community become as prosperous as possible. So, the Aga Khan has really done as much as he possibly can to get his community to become as wealthy as possible. High levels of education, academic success, high paying jobs, and strong entrepreneurialism are all heavily stressed within the Nizari Ismaili community, and all Nizari Ismailis aim for these (big time!). The Aga Khan additionally stresses to his followers to do public volunteerism and public charity, if they have time to do so, because this is what will cause others to accept Nizari Ismailis as Muslims, and what will make the Nizari Ismailis look like an ideal / model community (both to Muslims and non-Muslims) in the public eye. |
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aoa,
you have to ask why the Ismailis are doing all this. to bring people to their faith to save them from Hell fire on Qiyamat? Perhaps. But they dont seem very religious and the Aga Khan has been pictured jiggying with a woman in one pic and at a religious 'gathering' sitting with his eyes closed in another. Allah knows the true reason for his behavior. to make the Aga Khan, and in turn, their own self richer and much more prosperous? this is more likely. this is why the Aga khan is encouraging his people to do public volunteering and charity so that more liberal, secular muslims and non-muslims alike and weak muslims and those upon whom there is adhaab of Allah (SWT) apostate and join them. in turn that would mean an increase in the community's finances making the Aga Khan and also the common ismaili more richer. Allah knows best. All the false religions are centred around money. Even atheists and seculars are centred around money. Hence it is not enough to label them as non-muslims. what is to be done is to counter them with our own dawah so that there are less 'susceptible' people to their dawah. and also muslim communities should do what they can to live their lives more according to shariah and sunnah. when they do that the aga khanis' public volunteering, charity and the economic upgrade of their economy would all be shown to be false and second best in sha Allah. Allah knows best. May Allah save us from apostasy and dying a kafir. ameen. |
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aoa, Remember the Quran ... the Kuffar are all into helping each other against the truth. |
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Some facts about the current Nizari Ismaili "Holy Du'a":
-Text of the "Holy Du'a" can be found here and here. Trust me, it's correct. Any Nizari Ismaili who's honest will confirm this for you. -You can also print out this post and, if they are honest, they will tell you that it's 100% correct. -Most Nizari Ismailis can barely recite the Qur'an properly. If you have any Nizari Ismaili friends, ask them to recite Surah al-Fatihah or Surah al-Ikhlas (these are the only two complete surahs they learn) and you will most probably find that their ability to recite is very poor compared to the average Sunni or Twelver. Nizari Ismailis are always taught by other Nizari Ismailis how to recite the Qur'an (which explains why so many of them are very poor reciters), or they learn from a CD provided by the local Ismaili council, and no Nizari Ismailis learn Arabic growing up as part of the Nizari Ismaili student curriculum. This is why there are very, very few Nizari Ismailis in existence that know Arabic (outside of the Arab world). Many have never even opened a Qur'an (neither a translation or the real thing). After all, they feel they have the 'walking, talking Qur'an' and that the book version of the Qur'an largely doesn't apply to today's 'modern world.' -The Holy Du'a is recited three times a day. The times for reciting aren't fixed to the Sun or how much light is outside. Rather, Nizari Ismailis are supposed to recite the Holy Du'a once in the morning and twice in the evening, based on the timezone that they're in. Nizari Ismailis could care less about the rotation of the sun. If you ask a Nizari Ismaili what time is Fajr or Dhuhr or Asr or Maghrib or Isha, they won't even know what in the world you're talking about 90% of the time (unless they've learned about it from a non-Ismaili source somehow). What matters to Nizari Ismailis is the clock that people use to tell the time. Morning is basically anytime before noon time. Evening is basically anytime after 6pm up until sunrise. -Nizari Ismailis either sit on a chair or on their couch at home when reciting the Holy Du'a, if they're saying it at home. They sit cross-legged / zig-zag-legged on carpet if in a "Jamatkhana" (what Nizari Ismailis call their masjids), if they're young. There are chairs in the jamatkhana for older people who don't want to sit down on carpet. There is no sujood in the Holy Du'a (hands, face, forehead touching the floor). Rather, the prostration in the Holy Du'a consists of a simple nod of the head (a lot like how two people will nod at each other when walking past each other). This makes sense because, when one is sitting cross-legged or zig-zag-legged on carpet, it's difficult to do much more than nod the head somewhat, as a full sujood (like Sunnis and Twelvers do) would require sitting on one's knees rather than sitting as Nizari Ismailis do on carpet (cross-legged or zig-zag-legged). No part of the Nizari Ismaili's body touches the carpet or the floor when the prostration is done (other than the legs, in the case that the worshiper is sitting on carpet as opposed to on a sofa or chair). -Let's put it this way: even an old man or woman who can barely move the limbs can say the Holy Du'a just as well as and just as easily as a young athlete with the flexibility of a ballerina. There's very little body movement involved. -No standing occurs in the recitation of the Holy Du'a. It is 100% said sitting down and sitting in one place. -There is no wu'du before prayer. You can pray as is or even after just having answered the call of nature or having had sexual relations. There are no prerequisites to being able to recite the Holy Du'a. It can also be recited anywhere (car, plane, outside, on a bus, etc. - wherever, even the washroom is fine). There are no dress requirements, either. You can say it in your underwear if you want. There are virtually no rules. If someone's knocking at the door while you're saying the Holy Du'a, you can open the door and let the person in and go back to the part of the Holy Du'a you were in and finish it up. -It takes about 3-7 minutes to recite, depending on how fast the person recites. So, it takes a total of about 15 minutes per day for all of the three Holy Du'a that are to be recited each day. -Nizari Ismailis are supposed to recite the evening "Holy Du'a" in their jamatkhana as much as possible. That's why more devout Nizari Ismailis will frequently go to the jamatkhana in the evening (at 7-8 pm, typically) multiple times each week (especially Friday evening, which is considered the most important night of the week). In the jamatkhana, there are other worship services performed other than simply the Holy Du'a. Altogether, jamatkhana worship services typically take 30-90 minutes to complete, and that includes the recitation of two Holy Du'a. Aga Khan encourages Nizari Ismailis to go to evening jamatkhana as much as possible - perhaps because that's where a lot of the money that goes to the Aga Khan is raised, as there are a number of ceremonies that go on that require money. For example, one ceremony involves the sale of food that people bring from home, and the proceeds from sale go 100% to the Aga Khan. One of the ceremonies, which involves asking for forgiveness of sins and which all attendees must do, requires the giving of at least a little bit of money - even a penny is fine, but, typically a Nizari Ismaili will spend at least a quarter on this ceremony, at minimum. Many Nizari Ismailis will spend much more money in the jamatkhana than a quarter; sometimes even tens or hundreds of dollars on a single visit). -For the super devout Nizari Ismaiis, there's also a morning jamatkhana service that goes on from about 3-4 AM. It's similar to evening jamatkhana, but, only consists of one recitation of the Holy Du'a. Also, there's a meditation session in the morning jamatkhana service where they turn off the lights in the jamatkhana for like 10-30 minutes, and everyone is supposed to recite dhikr on his/her own. This practice is referred to by Nizari Ismailis as "bandagi." A person can recite whatever he/she wants, including: Ya Ali, Ya Muhammad, Ya Hazir Imam, Ya Allah, etc. Some of the attendees have previously been individually given, during a past visit of the Aga Khan to their community, a special dhikr that they're supposed to recite in this meditation session (through a ceremony that costs money called "Isme'e-Azam"). Anyway, Aga Khan tells them that if they do dhikr enough during this meditation session, and with enough passion and enough conviction, and in the 'right way,' then they will actually somehow be able to see the Noor of Allah during the meditation session, and this is supposed to give them immense happiness. So, this is what all the worshipers in the meditation session really strive to do, and they're happy if it even 'happens' (as if that's even possible) once in their lifetime. -Both morning and evening jamatkhana services take place every single day of the year, no matter the day. Always at roughly the same time of the day (slightly earlier on weekends and slightly later on weekdays). -Prayer can be done in any direction. Qibla direction is irrelevant to Nizari Ismailis. Yes, certain Nizari Ismaili Jamatkhanas have been built to face the qibla to make it look like prayers are said in the direction of the qibla (and to make Nizari Ismailis not stand out from regular Muslims), but, in fact, inside the jamatkhana people can pray in any direction (and do). Go to any Nizari Ismaili home and they will have no idea which way the Qibla is at all. |
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The Ismailis are the biggest conspiracy against the Muslims - just look at the Ismaili Fatimids and Assassins in history and all the trouble they caused.
The Fatimids really persecuted the Sunnis and did much to prevent the practice of Islam in their anti-caliphate. The Ismaili Assassins even used to be chums with the Crusaders and were a major influence on the foundation of the Illuminati. |
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Documents Show That
Previous Nizari Ismaili Imam's Own Mother Was a Twelver This will take some reading to get through. The current Imam of the Nizari Ismailis, who is the 49th Imam, is called Aga Khan IV. His predecessor, the 48th Imam of the Nizari Ismailis, was Aga Khan III. Aga Khan III was taken to court in the High Court of Bombay in 1908 by a relative of the Aga Khan III named Haji Bibi. I've mentioned this case in earlier posts in this thread. But, to recap, Haji Bibi was suing the Aga Khan for not getting a share in the tithes that the Aga Khan is given by his Nizari Ismaili followers. The case was presided over by Judge Justice Russell and became known as the "Haji Bibi Case." Ultimately, the Aga Khan won the case and obtained sole authority over all of the tithes given to him. The Aga Khan III wrote a book later in his life called Memoirs of Aga Khan (can be read online here) where he made mention of the case: My mother gave evidence on my behalf and was complimented by the judge, who said that she had "displayed an extraordinary memory." I was fortunate in my counsel, Mr. Inverarity, a keen and able lawyer. When at length the hearings ended and the presiding judge, Mr. Justice Russell, summed up, his judgment proved to be a classic example of its kind -- a masterly, lucid, wide-ranging survey of Islamic history, religion, custom and law. The actual court documents from the Haji Bibi Case are now available online through the High Court of Bombay (click here to see them). In the court documents, we come across a startling passage by Judge Justice Russell regarding Aga Khan III's mother, whom he had said had testified on his behalf in the court. This passage by Judge Justice Russell also makes mention of an interesting controversy surrounding Aga Khan III (keep in mind that "defendant No. 1" refers to Aga Khan III): There can be no doubt that the mother of defendant No. 1 [mother of Aga Khan III] and some of his [the Aga Khan III's] relatives are Asna Ashris. He himself frankly admitted that he had been present on an occasion when the Ziarat to the 3rd, 8th and the 12th Imams was said but he did not repeat it (p. 198). As a great deal has been attempted to be made of the faith of defendant No. 1 [Aga Khan III], I think it desirable to read his exact words (p. 214, line 22 to p. 216, line 4). To my mind it is impossible to believe that defendant No. 1 [Aga Khan III] believes in a faith, the result of which belief would be that he was no longer entitled to his position of Hazar Imam, that he was no longer entitled to receive offerings from his followers from all over world, and, in short, as Mr. Inverarity put it, that he was practising a gross imposture. I cannot believe that if he [Aga Khan III] really were an Asna Ashri, he would allow his followers to repeat in all reverence and on their knees in the Bombay Jamatkhana three times a day the Doowa, D. H. 132, set out at length below, a prayer in which inter alia all the 48 Imams are recited, and obeisance is made' when the name of the Imam for the time being is uttered. I think the above speaks for itself. Rather amazing that a Nizari Ismaili Imam's own mother (along with "some of his relatives") didn't believe her son was actually an Imam, and instead chose to follow the Twelver Shia. Who knows a man better than his mother? Furthermore, why in the world is Aga Khan III attending Ziarat for Twelver Imams at an Imambargah or at a Twelver masjid? Let me repeat: the actual court documents from the Haji Bibi Case are now available online through the High Court of Bombay (click here to see them). The Judge further adds: Shia Imami Ismailis hold Ismail, the 7th in descent from Ali, to have been the last of the revealed Imams, and they also hold that, until the final manifestation of Ali, who as an Incarnation of God, is to come before the end of all things to judge the world, the musnud of the Imamate, or in Latin idiom the office of Supreme Pontiff, is rightfully held by an hereditary succession of unrevealed Imams, the lineal descendants of Ali through Ismail.The revealed Imams, according to the Ismailis, are these seven ![]() This was the real, true faith of the Nizari Ismailis - at least in the 19th century and up until about 1955-56, pretty much any historical material you find says that Nizari Ismailis believed that their Imam and God are one and the same. As discussed in previous posts in this thread, it is only really since about 1956, when the "Holy Du'a" or "Doowa" was changed to become less extreme / heretical and less full of shirk, that more and more Nizari Ismailis are saying that their Imam is no different from the Imam of any other Shia group in terms of status. The Aga Khan IV, also, does not openly claim to be Allah like his predecessor so candidly and frankly did. Rather, the Aga Khan IV instead says that he is the "bearer of the Noor of Allah" (which to me doesn't sound much different from claiming to be Allah, anyway...it's a lot like the difference between the Father and the Son in Christianity). Let me add that there are still large portions of Nizari Ismailis today that consider their Imam to be the same as Allah - although some of them will not talk about it publicly. I've given links in prior posts in this thread from a Nizari Ismaili forum showing that many Nizari Ismailis still believe that their Imam is an incarnation of Allah, and here are the links again: Ismaili Thread of Shirk - 1 Ismaili Thread of Shirk - 2 Ismaili Thread of Shirk - 3 |
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