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Old 02-22-2012, 07:22 AM   #1
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Default Israel Miracles Sought At Tombs Of Sages (PHOTOS)
al-Salamu 'Aleykum,

A few quotes from this article (you can find the main link at the bottom).

Israel Miracles Sought At Tombs Of Sages


These believers are part of a growing phenomenon in Israel, where hundreds of thousands of people from starkly different backgrounds flock to the tombs of ancient Biblical figures or modern-day rabbis, seeking blessings and claiming they've witnessed miracles. "Coming here is being able to speak to God's secretary. It's the closest you can get," said Suzy Shaked, a 55-year-old teacher from central Israel who visited the tomb of Rabbi Yisrael Abuhatzeira, one of the most popular pilgrimage sites.

Shaked said she sees Abuhatzeira, better known as the Baba Sali, as God's envoy. A visit to his tomb puts her requests in God's earshot. She was praying at the Baba Sali's tomb for her son to marry.
"It's hard for (people) to be satisfied with prayer in a synagogue to a God who is very abstract, who is unclear, who is not accessible," said Doron Bar, a historical geographer who studies the sites. "I think visiting a grave like this gives believers a line through which demands can be made." LINK:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...7.html#s710482

"What does this remind you of" would be a legitimate question here.
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:57 AM   #2
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"What does this remind you of" would be a legitimate question here.
tomb worshipers found in muslim community

how long has this practice being going on for in judaism?
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:43 AM   #3
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The article says some of the tombs and graves they visit are of Muslims... strange.

I can understand their wanting to visit the tomb of Yusuf (as) in Nablus and the other Anbiyaa of Bani Israil, but the graves of Muslims and Christian saints?
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Old 02-23-2012, 04:16 AM   #4
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And we wonder why Jews have been cursed... they continue to be rebellious against God.

These are nothing more than modern day golden calves. Sadly, there is no one like Musa or Haaroon amongst the Jews.
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Old 02-23-2012, 06:12 AM   #5
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And we wonder why Jews have been cursed... they continue to be rebellious against God.

These are nothing more than modern day golden calves. Sadly, there is no one like Musa or Haaroon amongst the Jews.
unfortunately many muslims do that too :/
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Old 02-23-2012, 09:57 AM   #6
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unfortunately many muslims do that too :/


You won't find such behavior amongst the orthodoxy and especially amongst the scholars of Islam. According to the article, Jewish Rabbis are promoting such polytheism.
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Old 05-05-2012, 04:05 AM   #7
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The article says some of the tombs and graves they visit are of Muslims... strange.

I can understand their wanting to visit the tomb of Yusuf (as) in Nablus and the other Anbiyaa of Bani Israil, but the graves of Muslims and Christian saints?
aoa,
a bit off-topic. but is this really where Hadra Yusuf is buried?
didnt he die in Egypt?
i thought all the Prophets are buried where they die. that is beyond doubt correct. so where did he die and where was he buried?
qadianis bring this up often.
can someone answer please?
Jazak Allah khair.
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:58 AM   #8
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I guess this would be called "Traditional Judaism."
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Old 05-05-2012, 11:58 AM   #9
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I guess this would be called "Traditional Judaism."
I have a query on a different topic. It is asserted here that the Tradition about recite Surah Waqia and you shall not go without food is called weak. Is that true?
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:31 PM   #10
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aoa,
a bit off-topic. but is this really where Hadra Yusuf is buried?
didnt he die in Egypt?
i thought all the Prophets are buried where they die. that is beyond doubt correct. so where did he die and where was he buried?
qadianis bring this up often.
can someone answer please?
Jazak Allah khair.
Well, it is said in the Old Testament (I'm just remembering vaguely some quote) that when Musa (as) led the people out of Egypt, they brought the bones of Yusuf (as) out and took it with them... which is, now that I think of it , very strange.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph%27s_Tomb

The Torah provides four details regarding the traditions surrounding Joseph’s remains. The account in Genesis relates that, before his death, he had his brothers swear they would carry his bones out of Egypt to Canaan.[22] He is then said to have been embalmed then placed in a coffin in Egypt. [23] In Exodus,[24] we are told that Moses fulfilled the pledge by taking Joseph's bones with him when he left Egypt. In Joshua, Joseph’s bones are said to have been brought from Egypt by the Children of Israel[25] and interred in Shechem.

The bones of Joseph, which the Children of Israel brought up out of Egypt, were buried in Shechem in a parcel of land Jacob bought from the sons of Hamor, father of Shechem, for a hundred pieces of silver (qeśîṭâ).[26]

The Bible does not identify a specific site in Shechem where his bones were laid to rest. So the Jews believe that Yusuf was reburied somewhere in Palestine, although not certain where exactly. How the grave in Nablus came to be thought as the tomb of Yusuf, is anyone's guess.

The Wikipedia article says three possible places for the Tomb of Yusuf (as), according the Jews' own traditions: Nablus, Hebron and Safed. But most people seem to think it's the one in Nablus. As for what Muslims are doing at a tomb with an unknown occupant...
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Old 05-05-2012, 11:04 PM   #11
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I have a query on a different topic. It is asserted here that the Tradition about recite Surah Waqia and you shall not go without food is called weak. Is that true?
Why would you listen to anything that man says?
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