[Chooriwrocaxz]

i am thinking of working with a company that wants its workers to sell packages.i'll not be going into the details of the packages ..just to confirm whether this is riba or not?

the packages are

10 days---6$
1 month ---15$
3 months---27$
1 year------64$

so as a worker i'll be getting a percentage of how many sales i make...the company offered me two choices ...its the first choice that i am concerned about.

it states that for every sale i get 12$ fixed..
now suppose if a customer buys 10 days package i get 12$
if a customer buys 1 year package i get 12$

it all depends on the customer..so is this RIBA or not???

there's a high probability that customers will like to test the company and buy 10 days package in that case i might profit..but if they wish to continue with it then i would be at lost...any how will it be considered Riba....??
any help would be appreciated

[Chooriwrocaxz]

please can anyone reply and help me??

[yPuqQ248]

I wrote previously that taking commission on sales is permissible (but Ive deleted the post).
However, on your matter above, maybe its not as simple as it looks. I need to refer to a qualified alim in that area before able to answer.

Apologize for the inconvenience.

[Chooriwrocaxz]

I wrote previously that taking commission on sales is permissible (but Ive deleted the post).
However, on your matter above, maybe its not as simple as it looks. I need to refer to a qualified alim in that area before able to answer.

Apologize for the inconvenience.

Thank you brother for the reply...yeah i know taking percentage of sales is permissible..I will be hired by a company and all the sales i make for that company obviously they wouldn't let me take all the amount...they will give me a percentage of it that is about 60%....But that was Second choice....i have no problem in choosing that...

what i am concerned is the First choice..I have to choose between the two i.e first and second choices...The First choice offers 12$ fixed for every sale....whether 10 days,months or year....for every sale i make i get 12$....now its all dependent upon the customer...if a lot of customers buy 10 days package i am at gain...but if they continue to purse/extend the package to a month or a year..i'll get 12$ ....then may be i'll be @ loss....so i am concerned whether this first choice is Riba or not.... ?

thanks once again for the reply...

[Vmysobfi]

Assalamu alaikum,

Believe it or not the first choice is more traditionally better than the second choice. The second choice (percentage based commissions), ulema later allowed it due to widespread prevalence and necessity. It is still permissible. However the first choice, there is no room to raise objections. It is a direct ijara (hire) contract based upon completion of service. You are being paid $12 for bringing in a client.

[Chooriwrocaxz]

Assalamu alaikum,

Believe it or not the first choice is more traditionally better than the second choice. The second choice (percentage based commissions), ulema later allowed it due to widespread prevalence and necessity. It is still permissible. However the first choice, there is no room to raise objections. It is a direct ijara (hire) contract based upon completion of service. You are being paid $12 for bringing in a client.

Thanks for the reply brother....well now I am in a bit more in confusion....was percentage based commissions not previously allowed...?? meaning i am being hired by a company, if I work for the company and bring 10days package sale that costs 6$ for them...obviously they wouldn't let me keep the whole money is it?? after all i am representing their product in the market...isn't it...? if i keep the whole of the amount of the sale then what will the company gain? *confused*...so isn't 60% of every sale fair enough??

the reason i was confused for 12$ fixed rate (first choice)...was that if i do a sale of 6$ 10 days package...and the company pays me 12$ for it..and if i do a 1 month sale the company still pays me 12$..if i do a year still 12$ ...so will it be riba or not..?

thanks for the reply...i would be really glad if you shed some more light into this matter....
any how thanks for the reply...

[Chooriwrocaxz]

Bump..anyone??

[Vmysobfi]

Thanks for the reply brother....well now I am in a bit more in confusion....was percentage based commissions not previously allowed...?? meaning i am being hired by a company, if I work for the company and bring 10days package sale that costs 6$ for them...obviously they wouldn't let me keep the whole money is it?? after all i am representing their product in the market...isn't it...? if i keep the whole of the amount of the sale then what will the company gain? *confused*...so isn't 60% of every sale fair enough??

the reason i was confused for 12$ fixed rate (first choice)...was that if i do a sale of 6$ 10 days package...and the company pays me 12$ for it..and if i do a 1 month sale the company still pays me 12$..if i do a year still 12$ ...so will it be riba or not..?

thanks for the reply...i would be really glad if you shed some more light into this matter....
any how thanks for the reply...

Assalamu alaikum,

No, that is not riba as far as I can tell. It is not even close.

As for percentage based commission - the final answer is permitted. I don't want to go into detailed discussion as to why the fixed rate is better than the percentage.

Also the salesperson is not expected to keep the whole amount in any situation. Obviously, then how can the company make any profit.

[Chooriwrocaxz]

Assalamu alaikum,

No, that is not riba as far as I can tell. It is not even close.

As for percentage based commission - the final answer is permitted. I don't want to go into detailed discussion as to why the fixed rate is better than the percentage.

Also the salesperson is not expected to keep the whole amount in any situation. Obviously, then how can the company make any profit.

Thanks for the post bro...so i think is should be going with the first choice then